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Old Marquette arc welder...
Spent a little while this afternoon cleaning all the old wasp nests and
other assorted dirt from the old welder, same exercise having been instigated owing to the amperage adjusting screw having gotten dry to the point of being nearly impossible to move. While doing so, got to wondering if could possibly find a manual or picture for same that could use as guide for locations of the faded-out markings on the front that are almost indistinguishable for the low range and are totally so for the high range above about the 60A marking. They were silkscreened onto a light background and time has treated them poorly--the white paint seems to have chalked to the point it has basically just fallen off the background surface leaving virtually no trace of its passing... Anyway, a quick search didn't turn up anything at all like the one here which is a model EW67C welder/charger. I really don't know just how old it actually is--I'm guessing it's probably about '58 or so as that's when we began a major expansion of feedlots and Dad did a lot of custom fabrication of gate hinges, hooks, bunk hardware, etc., and also was doing a lot of hardfacing of sweeps and lister shears, etc., then as well...so I'm guess that was impetus to have purchased it. It still works well; it doesn't get a lot of use so despite the age it in usage years is still pretty young I'd guess... So, just a wild shot in the dark if anybody knows of any other resources for vintage Marguette stuff--I see Lincoln bought them and Century in 2003. -- |
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Old Marquette arc welder...
dpb wrote:
Spent a little while this afternoon cleaning all the old wasp nests and other assorted dirt from the old welder, same exercise having been instigated owing to the amperage adjusting screw having gotten dry to the point of being nearly impossible to move. While doing so, got to wondering if could possibly find a manual or picture for same that could use as guide for locations of the faded-out markings on the front that are almost indistinguishable for the low range and are totally so for the high range above about the 60A marking. They were silkscreened onto a light background and time has treated them poorly--the white paint seems to have chalked to the point it has basically just fallen off the background surface leaving virtually no trace of its passing... Anyway, a quick search didn't turn up anything at all like the one here which is a model EW67C welder/charger. I really don't know just how old it actually is--I'm guessing it's probably about '58 or so as that's when we began a major expansion of feedlots and Dad did a lot of custom fabrication of gate hinges, hooks, bunk hardware, etc., and also was doing a lot of hardfacing of sweeps and lister shears, etc., then as well...so I'm guess that was impetus to have purchased it. It still works well; it doesn't get a lot of use so despite the age it in usage years is still pretty young I'd guess... So, just a wild shot in the dark if anybody knows of any other resources for vintage Marguette stuff--I see Lincoln bought them and Century in 2003. -- http://www.auctionflex.com/showlot.a...164497&lang=En -- Steve W. |
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On 2/18/2014 7:32 PM, Steve W. wrote:
dpb wrote: .... Anyway, a quick search didn't turn up anything at all like the one here which is a model EW67C welder/charger. I really don't know just how old it actually is--... .... So, just a wild shot in the dark if anybody knows of any other resources for vintage Marguette stuff--... http://www.auctionflex.com/showlot.a...164497&lang=En Well how kewl is that!!!??? Thanks a lot; identical other than I don't think the paint behind the heat range numbers could have been red altho the rest is the baby-blue and red like it...but that picture of front is good enough to guesstimate the range markings from... Thanks, appreciate the link. -- |
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On 2/19/2014 12:34 AM, dpb wrote:
.... Thanks a lot; identical other than I don't think the paint behind the heat range numbers could have been red altho the rest is the baby-blue and red like it...but that picture of front is good enough to guesstimate the range markings from... .... Followup -- Went out to take some measurements to see about making markings -- guess it was actually a red background at one time, can see just a little tint left in a few places. It seems that what is left of the red on the silk screening has just turned into a white chalky surface in that area and since the letters were just the background base coat it's no wonder there's nothing at all legible where even the chalky stuff is left. I had thought that was the color coat but the other lettering and the two vertical decorative lines are still visible for the most part. Strange... Guess I'll see about finding one of the inexpensive silk-screen kits and see if I can make a replacement or just use some of the clear pressure-sensitive label material and make dark on light and forego the original look...or, of course, I could just take a paint marker and freehand it... -- |
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Old Marquette arc welder...
On 19/02/14 18:10, dpb wrote:
On 2/19/2014 12:34 AM, dpb wrote: ... Thanks a lot; identical other than I don't think the paint behind the heat range numbers could have been red altho the rest is the baby-blue and red like it...but that picture of front is good enough to guesstimate the range markings from... ... Followup -- Went out to take some measurements to see about making markings -- guess it was actually a red background at one time, can see just a little tint left in a few places. It seems that what is left of the red on the silk screening has just turned into a white chalky surface in that area and since the letters were just the background base coat it's no wonder there's nothing at all legible where even the chalky stuff is left. I had thought that was the color coat but the other lettering and the two vertical decorative lines are still visible for the most part. Strange... Guess I'll see about finding one of the inexpensive silk-screen kits and see if I can make a replacement or just use some of the clear pressure-sensitive label material and make dark on light and forego the original look...or, of course, I could just take a paint marker and freehand it... -- I've not tried it but my neighbour has mentioned ink jet printer water slide transfer paper so that may be worth a look, not tried it myself. A quick search turned up this sort of thing http://www.craftycomputerpaper.co.uk...-Paper_151.htm |
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Old Marquette arc welder...
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:10:04 -0600, dpb wrote:
On 2/19/2014 12:34 AM, dpb wrote: ... Thanks a lot; identical other than I don't think the paint behind the heat range numbers could have been red altho the rest is the baby-blue and red like it...but that picture of front is good enough to guesstimate the range markings from... ... Followup -- Went out to take some measurements to see about making markings -- guess it was actually a red background at one time, can see just a little tint left in a few places. It seems that what is left of the red on the silk screening has just turned into a white chalky surface in that area and since the letters were just the background base coat it's no wonder there's nothing at all legible where even the chalky stuff is left. I had thought that was the color coat but the other lettering and the two vertical decorative lines are still visible for the most part. Strange... Guess I'll see about finding one of the inexpensive silk-screen kits and see if I can make a replacement or just use some of the clear pressure-sensitive label material and make dark on light and forego the original look...or, of course, I could just take a paint marker and freehand it... Id freehand it with a fine point Sharpie. Shrug..there is only going to be a small range where you will be working in..assuming 3/32-1/8" rod Gunner -- "A "Liberal Paradise" would be a place where everybody has guaranteed employment,free comprehensive healthcare, free education, free food, free housing, free clothing, free utilities, and only Law Enforcement has guns. And believe it or not, such a place does indeed exist . . . It's called PRISON. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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Old Marquette arc welder...
On 2/19/2014 1:51 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
.... Guess I'll see about finding one of the inexpensive silk-screen kits and see if I can make a replacement or just use some of the clear pressure-sensitive label material and make dark on light and forego the original look...or, of course, I could just take a paint marker and freehand it... Id freehand it with a fine point Sharpie. Shrug..there is only going to be a small range where you will be working in..assuming 3/32-1/8" rod .... Gee, that takes all the fun out in a heartbeat... -- |
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dpb wrote:
On 2/19/2014 12:34 AM, dpb wrote: ... Thanks a lot; identical other than I don't think the paint behind the heat range numbers could have been red altho the rest is the baby-blue and red like it...but that picture of front is good enough to guesstimate the range markings from... ... Followup -- Went out to take some measurements to see about making markings -- guess it was actually a red background at one time, can see just a little tint left in a few places. It seems that what is left of the red on the silk screening has just turned into a white chalky surface in that area and since the letters were just the background base coat it's no wonder there's nothing at all legible where even the chalky stuff is left. I had thought that was the color coat but the other lettering and the two vertical decorative lines are still visible for the most part. Strange... Guess I'll see about finding one of the inexpensive silk-screen kits and see if I can make a replacement or just use some of the clear pressure-sensitive label material and make dark on light and forego the original look...or, of course, I could just take a paint marker and freehand it... -- Make up a stencil sheet with the numbers in the correct spots. Sand the face down, Prime and paint with white. Let it dry. Apply a layer of contact paper. Trace the numbers and cut them out with a sharp x-acto. Remove all the areas around the numbers. Mask the face and scuff the paint, shoot the red. Let it dry. Now peel the contact pieces off to reveal white markings. Gently sand with 1200 - 2000 and then shoot with clear. -- Steve W. |
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Old Marquette arc welder...
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:51:57 -0500, "Steve W."
wrote: dpb wrote: On 2/19/2014 12:34 AM, dpb wrote: ... Thanks a lot; identical other than I don't think the paint behind the heat range numbers could have been red altho the rest is the baby-blue and red like it...but that picture of front is good enough to guesstimate the range markings from... ... Followup -- Went out to take some measurements to see about making markings -- guess it was actually a red background at one time, can see just a little tint left in a few places. It seems that what is left of the red on the silk screening has just turned into a white chalky surface in that area and since the letters were just the background base coat it's no wonder there's nothing at all legible where even the chalky stuff is left. I had thought that was the color coat but the other lettering and the two vertical decorative lines are still visible for the most part. Strange... Guess I'll see about finding one of the inexpensive silk-screen kits and see if I can make a replacement or just use some of the clear pressure-sensitive label material and make dark on light and forego the original look...or, of course, I could just take a paint marker and freehand it... -- Make up a stencil sheet with the numbers in the correct spots. Sand the face down, Prime and paint with white. Let it dry. Apply a layer of contact paper. Trace the numbers and cut them out with a sharp x-acto. Remove all the areas around the numbers. Mask the face and scuff the paint, shoot the red. Let it dry. Now peel the contact pieces off to reveal white markings. Gently sand with 1200 - 2000 and then shoot with clear. Or paint it and then apply "rub-on" letters (Letraset) then clear over that. |
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