Greetings George,
I sent you an email about spinning to avoid posting more off topic
stuff in another newsgroup. But I just got a message that the emial
was undeliverable. So here is the text:
Greetings George,
Copper soldered with lead free solder will accept nickel plate. You
may have better luck if you want a seamless part looking for deep
drawn copper cups. There are places that make and sell these as a
standard item. When spinning a flat disc is deformed into a concave
shape. Imagine if you took a piece of aluminum foil and set a can on
it. Then wrap the foil up the sides of the can. There will be many
wrinkles. When spinning properly these wrinkles are flattened out by
displacing metal. This means that the metal must get thicker, longer,
or both, in the cylindrical section.
When making a cylinder with tall sides and a small diameter you can
see that this would require the most displacement of the metal. When
metal is deep drawn the metal is only displaced in one direction, not
two as it would be when spun. Items like aluminum cans, bullet shells,
high pressure gas cylinders and the like are deep drawn. Do a web
search to see some videos of the process.
Cheers,
Eric

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On Friday, January 31, 2014 8:32:42 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Greetings George,

I sent you an email about spinning to avoid posting more off topic
stuff in another newsgroup. But I just got a message that the emial
was undeliverable. So here is the text:
Hi Eric, sorry about that. I don't use the gmail account that much.
You can always send to (gherold(at-sign)teachspin.com)
Greetings George,
Copper soldered with lead free solder will accept nickel plate. You
may have better luck if you want a seamless part looking for deep
drawn copper cups. There are places that make and sell these as a
standard item.
OK that's good info. So the low temperature silver solders now used to solder copper pipes will take nickel plating? I can look into deep drawn cups.. But we'll most likely want something custom. (and will only be ordering quantities in the ten's to hundreds.)
When spinning a flat disc is deformed into a concave
shape. Imagine if you took a piece of aluminum foil and set a can on
it. Then wrap the foil up the sides of the can. There will be many
wrinkles. When spinning properly these wrinkles are flattened out by
displacing metal. This means that the metal must get thicker, longer,
or both, in the cylindrical section.
When making a cylinder with tall sides and a small diameter you can
see that this would require the most displacement of the metal. When
metal is deep drawn the metal is only displaced in one direction, not
two as it would be when spun. Items like aluminum cans, bullet shells,
high pressure gas cylinders and the like are deep drawn. Do a web
search to see some videos of the process.


Thanks again,

George H.
Cheers,

Eric



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On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 07:18:38 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, January 31, 2014 8:32:42 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Greetings George,

I sent you an email about spinning to avoid posting more off topic
stuff in another newsgroup. But I just got a message that the emial
was undeliverable. So here is the text:
Hi Eric, sorry about that. I don't use the gmail account that much.
You can always send to (gherold(at-sign)teachspin.com)
Greetings George,
Copper soldered with lead free solder will accept nickel plate. You
may have better luck if you want a seamless part looking for deep
drawn copper cups. There are places that make and sell these as a
standard item.
OK that's good info. So the low temperature silver solders now used to solder copper pipes will take nickel plating? I can look into deep drawn cups. But we'll most likely want something custom. (and will only be ordering quantities in the ten's to hundreds.)
When spinning a flat disc is deformed into a concave
shape. Imagine if you took a piece of aluminum foil and set a can on
it. Then wrap the foil up the sides of the can. There will be many
wrinkles. When spinning properly these wrinkles are flattened out by
displacing metal. This means that the metal must get thicker, longer,
or both, in the cylindrical section.
When making a cylinder with tall sides and a small diameter you can
see that this would require the most displacement of the metal. When
metal is deep drawn the metal is only displaced in one direction, not
two as it would be when spun. Items like aluminum cans, bullet shells,
high pressure gas cylinders and the like are deep drawn. Do a web
search to see some videos of the process.


Thanks again,

George H.
Cheers,

Eric
Some lead free plumbing solders contain antimony. I don't know if they
can be plated over. But the silver/tin alloy solders will accept
plating. So ckeck the package.
Eric

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