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http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Snyder-Machine/
"6 station milling machine" with total of 280 HP, not counting two hydraulic power units. i |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:10:32 -0500, Ignoramus13603
wrote: http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Snyder-Machine/ "6 station milling machine" with total of 280 HP, not counting two hydraulic power units. And you bought it to make Russian Field Jacket buttons, da? -- Self-development is a higher duty than self-sacrifice. -- Elizabeth Cady Stanton |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:10:32 -0500, Ignoramus13603
wrote: http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Snyder-Machine/ "6 station milling machine" with total of 280 HP, not counting two hydraulic power units. Oh, jeez. I hope you're not planning to buy it. That's the kind of machine you used to see in the automobile industry -- 40 years ago. g -- Ed Huntress |
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On 2013-03-15, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:10:32 -0500, Ignoramus13603 wrote: http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Snyder-Machine/ "6 station milling machine" with total of 280 HP, not counting two hydraulic power units. Oh, jeez. I hope you're not planning to buy it. That's the kind of machine you used to see in the automobile industry -- 40 years ago. g I already bought it. I hope that it weighs 50 tons. i |
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Ignoramus13603 wrote: On 2013-03-15, Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:10:32 -0500, Ignoramus13603 wrote: http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Snyder-Machine/ "6 station milling machine" with total of 280 HP, not counting two hydraulic power units. Oh, jeez. I hope you're not planning to buy it. That's the kind of machine you used to see in the automobile industry -- 40 years ago. g I already bought it. I hope that it weighs 50 tons. i Yikes, that will take a week or two to dismantle and truck. I know you have a big building, but can you even fit all that in with the other stuff you have? |
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On 2013-03-15, Pete C. wrote:
Ignoramus13603 wrote: On 2013-03-15, Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:10:32 -0500, Ignoramus13603 wrote: http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Snyder-Machine/ "6 station milling machine" with total of 280 HP, not counting two hydraulic power units. Oh, jeez. I hope you're not planning to buy it. That's the kind of machine you used to see in the automobile industry -- 40 years ago. g I already bought it. I hope that it weighs 50 tons. i Yikes, that will take a week or two to dismantle and truck. I know you have a big building, but can you even fit all that in with the other stuff you have? That one goes straight to a scrap yard. I may save a few bits and pieces, though. i |
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Ignoramus13603 wrote: On 2013-03-15, Pete C. wrote: Ignoramus13603 wrote: On 2013-03-15, Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:10:32 -0500, Ignoramus13603 wrote: http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Snyder-Machine/ "6 station milling machine" with total of 280 HP, not counting two hydraulic power units. Oh, jeez. I hope you're not planning to buy it. That's the kind of machine you used to see in the automobile industry -- 40 years ago. g I already bought it. I hope that it weighs 50 tons. i Yikes, that will take a week or two to dismantle and truck. I know you have a big building, but can you even fit all that in with the other stuff you have? That one goes straight to a scrap yard. I may save a few bits and pieces, though. i I would think the motors and hydraulic power units would be more valuable as-is than as-scrap. |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:10:49 -0500, Ignoramus13603
wrote: On 2013-03-15, Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:10:32 -0500, Ignoramus13603 wrote: http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Snyder-Machine/ "6 station milling machine" with total of 280 HP, not counting two hydraulic power units. Oh, jeez. I hope you're not planning to buy it. That's the kind of machine you used to see in the automobile industry -- 40 years ago. g I already bought it. I hope that it weighs 50 tons. For scrap, I assume? -- Ed Huntress |
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On 2013-03-15, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:10:49 -0500, Ignoramus13603 wrote: On 2013-03-15, Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:10:32 -0500, Ignoramus13603 wrote: http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Snyder-Machine/ "6 station milling machine" with total of 280 HP, not counting two hydraulic power units. Oh, jeez. I hope you're not planning to buy it. That's the kind of machine you used to see in the automobile industry -- 40 years ago. g I already bought it. I hope that it weighs 50 tons. For scrap, I assume? Yes, definitely. A few useful things can be saved from it, but it is a patently useless machine that no one can figure out, anyway. I hope that it weighs 50 tons. I did see it. i |
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Ignoramus13603 wrote:
On 2013-03-15, Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:10:32 -0500, Ignoramus13603 wrote: http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Snyder-Machine/ "6 station milling machine" with total of 280 HP, not counting two hydraulic power units. Oh, jeez. I hope you're not planning to buy it. That's the kind of machine you used to see in the automobile industry -- 40 years ago. g I already bought it. I hope that it weighs 50 tons. Well, it should have LOTS of useful parts in it. Lots of hydraulic valves, maybe even some Moog proportional servo valves. Jon |
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"Jon Elson" wrote in message ... Ignoramus13603 wrote: On 2013-03-15, Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:10:32 -0500, Ignoramus13603 wrote: http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Snyder-Machine/ "6 station milling machine" with total of 280 HP, not counting two hydraulic power units. Oh, jeez. I hope you're not planning to buy it. That's the kind of machine you used to see in the automobile industry -- 40 years ago. g I already bought it. I hope that it weighs 50 tons. Well, it should have LOTS of useful parts in it. Lots of hydraulic valves, maybe even some Moog proportional servo valves. He's probably going to kill somebody one of these days soon; he's got zero formal training and most of his "rigging" is junk that someone else has discarded for safety issues. IIRC, he's already come close at least once, while disassembling an overhead crane. |
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PrecisionmachinisT wrote: "Jon Elson" wrote in message ... Ignoramus13603 wrote: On 2013-03-15, Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:10:32 -0500, Ignoramus13603 wrote: http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Snyder-Machine/ "6 station milling machine" with total of 280 HP, not counting two hydraulic power units. Oh, jeez. I hope you're not planning to buy it. That's the kind of machine you used to see in the automobile industry -- 40 years ago. g I already bought it. I hope that it weighs 50 tons. Well, it should have LOTS of useful parts in it. Lots of hydraulic valves, maybe even some Moog proportional servo valves. He's probably going to kill somebody one of these days soon; he's got zero formal training and most of his "rigging" is junk that someone else has discarded for safety issues. IIRC, he's already come close at least once, while disassembling an overhead crane. You recall incorrectly. He witnessed some hacks nearly get killed disassembling an overhead crane, he had nothing to do with it. |
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"Ignoramus13603" wrote in message
... http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Snyder-Machine/ "6 station milling machine" with total of 280 HP, not counting two hydraulic power units. i What did you pay for alladat? You can proly estimate the weight pretty well. Steel weighs 480#/cu ft, ditto copper, brass (approx), or 60# per 6" cube. You could proly visually estimate an avg "spatial density" of select measurable volumes pretty well, and come up with a grand total, good to +/- 15%. I imagine it is going to take quite some time disassembling alladat, on top of the rigging itself. -- EA |
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On 2013-03-17, Existential Angst wrote:
"Ignoramus13603" wrote in message ... http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Snyder-Machine/ "6 station milling machine" with total of 280 HP, not counting two hydraulic power units. i What did you pay for alladat? A lot! You can proly estimate the weight pretty well. Steel weighs 480#/cu ft, ditto copper, brass (approx), or 60# per 6" cube. You could proly visually estimate an avg "spatial density" of select measurable volumes pretty well, and come up with a grand total, good to +/- 15%. I imagine it is going to take quite some time disassembling alladat, on top of the rigging itself. I am still learning this scrap business. My best guess is that there is 50 short tons of steel in it. (I hate short tons, but scrap yards here operate in short tons) My another guess is that disassembly and rigging, will take 4 days. i |
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Ignoramus19014 wrote: My another guess is that disassembly and rigging, will take 4 days. Since this equipment will never be put into operation as-is again, assuming it's ok with the place you're removing it from, don't be afraid to separate sections with a big abrasive cutoff saw or for tighter areas an angle grinder with a cutoff wheel. Keep a fire extinguisher nearby, but that will be the fastest way to get through mixed materials and get on with the loading. Sawzalls are good too, but an abrasive wheel will beat them for time on most materials. |
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On 2013-03-15, Ignoramus13603 wrote:
http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Snyder-Machine/ "6 station milling machine" with total of 280 HP, not counting two hydraulic power units. Machine has been disassembled. 4,000 lbs of scrap 3 phase motors and also two potentially resellable new motors. 770 lbs of copper wire. Miscellaneous parts also (the best are Vickers DG series hydraulic pumps) The steel is going to scrap yard tomorrow, will take at least two semi truck trips. i |
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