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I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.

They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.

What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?
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I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.

They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.

What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?


I am interested in the answers that will come. For me, I would investigate
the possibilities of some sort of acid wash, followed with power wash.
Don't know if it would be a good thing to maybe hook up a floor polisher
with an abrasive pad, but I am thinking on staying away from the big grinder
idea, and going for a method that would be very easy. After that, I would
maybe consider soaking it with cooking oil and heating it with firewood,
just up to 350 F. to put a sealer on it. Maybe others will suggest a better
easier way.

After my last tangle with a grinder, I am not so fast to draw it out as my
first choice, and that 9" can be a mofo if you mess up just a little.

MHO, will follow the thread and see what is suggested, at times I need to
derust large areas, sometimes full lengths of 20 feet. I would only build a
bath for those if I was to get into a lot of it, but if I was moving that
much tubing, I'd keep just new oiled stock in the racks.

Steve


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"Ignoramus25707" wrote in message
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I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.

They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.

What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?


I am interested in the answers that will come. For me, I would investigate
the possibilities of some sort of acid wash, followed with power wash.
Don't know if it would be a good thing to maybe hook up a floor polisher
with an abrasive pad, but I am thinking on staying away from the big grinder
idea, and going for a method that would be very easy. After that, I would
maybe consider soaking it with cooking oil and heating it with firewood,
just up to 350 F. to put a sealer on it. Maybe others will suggest a better
easier way.

After my last tangle with a grinder, I am not so fast to draw it out as my
first choice, and that 9" can be a mofo if you mess up just a little.

MHO, will follow the thread and see what is suggested, at times I need to
derust large areas, sometimes full lengths of 20 feet. I would only build a
bath for those if I was to get into a lot of it, but if I was moving that
much tubing, I'd keep just new oiled stock in the racks.

Steve



I am a little leery of putting those plates in a fire, one is that the
village may not like it, and two, the plates may get warped.

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I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.

They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.

What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?


I am interested in the answers that will come. For me, I would investigate
the possibilities of some sort of acid wash, followed with power wash.
Don't know if it would be a good thing to maybe hook up a floor polisher
with an abrasive pad, but I am thinking on staying away from the big grinder
idea, and going for a method that would be very easy. After that, I would
maybe consider soaking it with cooking oil and heating it with firewood,
just up to 350 F. to put a sealer on it. Maybe others will suggest a better
easier way.

After my last tangle with a grinder, I am not so fast to draw it out as my
first choice, and that 9" can be a mofo if you mess up just a little.

MHO, will follow the thread and see what is suggested, at times I need to
derust large areas, sometimes full lengths of 20 feet. I would only build a
bath for those if I was to get into a lot of it, but if I was moving that
much tubing, I'd keep just new oiled stock in the racks.

Steve



I am a little leery of putting those plates in a fire, one is that the
village may not like it, and two, the plates may get warped.

i


Can you take them somewhere to be abrasive blasted inexpensively? I
agree with the caution on the angle grinder, the last time I used a 9" I
could barely move my arms for a few days after.
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Ignoramus25707 wrote:

On 2013-01-24, Steve B wrote:

"Ignoramus25707" wrote in message
news I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.

They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.

What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?

I am interested in the answers that will come. For me, I would
investigate
the possibilities of some sort of acid wash, followed with power wash.
Don't know if it would be a good thing to maybe hook up a floor
polisher
with an abrasive pad, but I am thinking on staying away from the big
grinder
idea, and going for a method that would be very easy. After that, I
would
maybe consider soaking it with cooking oil and heating it with
firewood,
just up to 350 F. to put a sealer on it. Maybe others will suggest a
better
easier way.

After my last tangle with a grinder, I am not so fast to draw it out as
my
first choice, and that 9" can be a mofo if you mess up just a little.

MHO, will follow the thread and see what is suggested, at times I need
to
derust large areas, sometimes full lengths of 20 feet. I would only
build a
bath for those if I was to get into a lot of it, but if I was moving
that
much tubing, I'd keep just new oiled stock in the racks.

Steve



I am a little leery of putting those plates in a fire, one is that the
village may not like it, and two, the plates may get warped.

i


Can you take them somewhere to be abrasive blasted inexpensively? I
agree with the caution on the angle grinder, the last time I used a 9" I
could barely move my arms for a few days after.


The way ig beats his effing meat on this ng, I'm sure he would have no
problem with a 15" angle grinder.
WhoTF would buy a 30" high welding table, anyway, besides a midget or a yogi
with a strong back????

But steve's floor sander/screens is a good idea. A belt sander would also
do.
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Ignoramus25707 wrote:

On 2013-01-24, Steve B wrote:

"Ignoramus25707" wrote in message
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I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.

They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.

What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?

I am interested in the answers that will come. For me, I would
investigate
the possibilities of some sort of acid wash, followed with power wash.
Don't know if it would be a good thing to maybe hook up a floor
polisher
with an abrasive pad, but I am thinking on staying away from the big
grinder
idea, and going for a method that would be very easy. After that, I
would
maybe consider soaking it with cooking oil and heating it with
firewood,
just up to 350 F. to put a sealer on it. Maybe others will suggest a
better
easier way.

After my last tangle with a grinder, I am not so fast to draw it out as
my
first choice, and that 9" can be a mofo if you mess up just a little.

MHO, will follow the thread and see what is suggested, at times I need
to
derust large areas, sometimes full lengths of 20 feet. I would only
build a
bath for those if I was to get into a lot of it, but if I was moving
that
much tubing, I'd keep just new oiled stock in the racks.

Steve



I am a little leery of putting those plates in a fire, one is that the
village may not like it, and two, the plates may get warped.

i

Can you take them somewhere to be abrasive blasted inexpensively? I
agree with the caution on the angle grinder, the last time I used a 9" I
could barely move my arms for a few days after.


The way ig beats his effing meat on this ng, I'm sure he would have no
problem with a 15" angle grinder.
WhoTF would buy a 30" high welding table, anyway, besides a midget or a yogi
with a strong back????


I know a welder with a table about that high if not a bit lower but the
table is about 8' x 12' and often used for building structural steelwork.
But steve's floor sander/screens is a good idea. A belt sander would also
do.

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Ignoramus25707 wrote:


On 2013-01-24, Steve B wrote:


"Ignoramus25707" wrote in message
news I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.


They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.


What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?


I am interested in the answers that will come. *For me, I would
investigate
the possibilities of some sort of acid wash, followed with power wash.
Don't know if it would be a good thing to maybe hook up a floor
polisher
with an abrasive pad, but I am thinking on staying away from the big
grinder
idea, and going for a method that would be very easy. *After that, I
would
maybe consider soaking it with cooking oil and heating it with
firewood,
just up to 350 F. to put a sealer on it. *Maybe others will suggest a
better
easier way.


After my last tangle with a grinder, I am not so fast to draw it out as
my
first choice, and that 9" can be a mofo if you mess up just a little..


MHO, will follow the thread and see what is suggested, at times I need
to
derust large areas, sometimes full lengths of 20 feet. *I would only
build a
bath for those if I was to get into a lot of it, but if I was moving
that
much tubing, I'd keep just new oiled stock in the racks.


Steve


I am a little leery of putting those plates in a fire, one is that the
village may not like it, and two, the plates may get warped.


i


Can you take them somewhere to be abrasive blasted inexpensively? I
agree with the caution on the angle grinder, the last time I used a 9" I
could barely move my arms for a few days after.


The way ig beats his effing meat on this ng, I'm sure he would have no
problem with a 15" angle grinder.
WhoTF would buy a 30" high welding table, anyway, besides a midget or a yogi
with a strong back????

But steve's floor sander/screens is a good idea. *A belt sander would also
do.
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A belt sander is often used for imparting "grain" to metal. Gives a
nice finish. I use to program and machine a ton of face plates for
Krell who makes very expensive audio amplifiers and this is how they
were finished. Luckily we subbed out that job or I would have been
stuck doing that as well.



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I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.

They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.

What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?


It depends on what the rust is like. But for rust as you describe, i
wire brush and then use citric or phosphoric acid. For wire
brushing, I use what I have. A regular 1/2 hp motor mounted in a yoke
on a thing with three casters and a flexible shaft. A large angle
grinder and a cup brush might be better.


Dan
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EvapoRust is your friend :-). Depending on size and weight, maybe put down
a thick polyethylene dropcloth sheet on the floor, put a couple of bars down
to hold the sheets 1/4" off the floor, then put a sheet down, prop the edges
of the plastic up to form a pool, and pour in the evaporust so the metal is
submerged. Put another plastic sheet over it to limit evaporation and go
away for a day or three. Pick that sheet up, drain off all the evaporust
you can, go wash that sheet and put in the next steel sheet. Will take some
time but very little effort or labor. If you can arrange a "sump" to get
the liquid deep enough in one spot, put in a little pump of some kind to
keep the stuff flowing and it will work faster. Warm it up and it will work
even faster - got any 500W halogen work lites? Just shine them on the rusty
steel.

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I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.

They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.

What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?


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I kind of like the chemical idea, also, because it takes comparably
little work. I will try.

i

On 2013-01-24, Carl Ijames wrote:
EvapoRust is your friend :-). Depending on size and weight, maybe put down
a thick polyethylene dropcloth sheet on the floor, put a couple of bars down
to hold the sheets 1/4" off the floor, then put a sheet down, prop the edges
of the plastic up to form a pool, and pour in the evaporust so the metal is
submerged. Put another plastic sheet over it to limit evaporation and go
away for a day or three. Pick that sheet up, drain off all the evaporust
you can, go wash that sheet and put in the next steel sheet. Will take some
time but very little effort or labor. If you can arrange a "sump" to get
the liquid deep enough in one spot, put in a little pump of some kind to
keep the stuff flowing and it will work faster. Warm it up and it will work
even faster - got any 500W halogen work lites? Just shine them on the rusty
steel.

-----
Regards,
Carl Ijames
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I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.

They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.

What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?




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I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.

They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.

What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?


If you still have that Tenant floor machine, this might work.

http://www.malish.com/dmb/diamabrush...ep-system.html


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Now that you say it, I have a Tennant style brush with metal
bristles. I will look into how I could use it.

i

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I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.

They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.

What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?


If you still have that Tenant floor machine, this might work.

http://www.malish.com/dmb/diamabrush...ep-system.html


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I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.

They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.

What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?


Actually, I have the PERFECT solution! It' just not patented yet and in
prototype.


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Actually, I have the PERFECT solution! It' just not patented yet
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Wire brushes on a Roto-Tiller?


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Actually, I have the PERFECT solution! It' just not patented yet
and in prototype.


Wire brushes on a Roto-Tiller?


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Actually, I have the PERFECT solution! It' just not patented yet
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Wire brushes on a Roto-Tiller?



A Phaser set on Annoy?
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On 1/26/2013 2:28 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jim Wilkins wrote:

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Actually, I have the PERFECT solution! It' just not patented yet
and in prototype.


Wire brushes on a Roto-Tiller?



A Phaser set on Annoy?


Of anybody, YOU could probably build one! Can I have a prototype!
Could you add an "IRRITATE" setting for me?
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Jim Wilkins wrote:

"Tom Gardner" mars@tacks wrote in message
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Actually, I have the PERFECT solution! It' just not patented yet
and in prototype.

Wire brushes on a Roto-Tiller?



A Phaser set on Annoy?


Of anybody, YOU could probably build one! Can I have a prototype!
Could you add an "IRRITATE" setting for me?


Already done and in the testing stages.


You know that setting only works on liberals, don't you?

The list of settings from the user manual of the Anti-Liberal Phaser:

00: Saftey W/child proof lock to keep Liberals from hurting themselves.
01: Annoy
02: Irritate
03: Bug
04: Infuriate
05: Enrage
06: ****ed off
07: Make their hollow heads ring like a cheap cow bell
08: Inflame
09: Crispy critter
10: Dust unto dust


Truely a "Smart Weapon". Like Biden wants. The hard part will be to
make it work with all newsreaders so you can click a button when you
reply to a liberal, and really make his head explode.
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Actually, I have the PERFECT solution! It' just not patented yet
and in prototype.


Wire brushes on a Roto-Tiller?




It's already been done! And, can you guess who did it?
Oh yea...that would be me. Mostly used to clean/prep metal roofs for
coating.
http://www.wisesales.com/shindaiwa-c...l#.UQWHjb-0Bck



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Actually, I have the PERFECT solution! It' just not patented yet
and in prototype.

Wire brushes on a Roto-Tiller?




It's already been done! And, can you guess who did it?
Oh yea...that would be me. Mostly used to clean/prep metal roofs for
coating.
http://www.wisesales.com/shindaiwa-c...l#.UQWHjb-0Bck




Nice. What kind of rpm can that handle? You don't make something
similar that would fit on a long arbor buffer do you?


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On 1/27/2013 9:30 PM, Steve W. wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
On 1/25/2013 6:21 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Tom Gardner" mars@tacks wrote in message
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Actually, I have the PERFECT solution! It' just not patented yet
and in prototype.
Wire brushes on a Roto-Tiller?




It's already been done! And, can you guess who did it?
Oh yea...that would be me. Mostly used to clean/prep metal roofs for
coating.
http://www.wisesales.com/shindaiwa-c...l#.UQWHjb-0Bck





Nice. What kind of rpm can that handle? You don't make something
similar that would fit on a long arbor buffer do you?



Those brushes are rated at 3600rpm but will easily stay together at 1.5x
that. The best way is to stack single sections on a long arbor. We
swage multiple brushes on a tube for customers wanting a quick-change.
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I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.

They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.

What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?


How large?

If you have the room and they will fit you could use an electrolytic
bath. I have one built from a water tank, Another one from a couple poly
drums. For you maybe something like the kiddy pools or the small
livestock tanks. They grab some PH+ chemical from a pool supply outfit (
soda ash, washing soda, sodium carbonate )

http://antique-engines.com/electrol.asp
http://www.instructables.com/id/Elec...val-aka-Magic/

You can basically make a tank out of anything that will hold water BUT
it cannot be metal unless you line it with something non-conductive.

I have done full car frames. You can do the interior using electrodes
with standoffs to keep them from grounding out. I used cheap foam.
Works great on things like motorcycle tanks as well.

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On 1/24/2013 12:07 PM, Ignoramus25707 wrote:
I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.

They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.

What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?



I don't know about cost effectiveness. I tend to use a wire wheel on a
grinder. On flat surfaces, the cup wheel style works best for me. I
asked a Sait salesman once about it and he suggested a flap wheel
sanding disk on the grinder - it works, but sure seems like a lot more
time and effort. There are some of those 3m type fiber disks that I
have not tried.

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I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically

transform into welding tables.



They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be

removed.



What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle

grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?




If you have a lots of sheets to do, and have the space and can deal with the mess, sand blast them.


rent or build the equipment yourself.



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I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.

They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.

What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?


Buy some steel cup brushes from Ohio Brush. They are very very good,
will give you excellent service and will last a long time.

http://www.ohiobrush.com/Pages/powertool.html


Or have a sand blaster do the work for you at considerably more money.

Gunner

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1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie


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On Jan 27, 9:57*am, Gunner wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 12:07:05 -0600, Ignoramus25707

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I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically
transform into welding tables.


They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be
removed.


What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle
grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?


Buy some steel cup brushes from Ohio Brush. They are very very good,
will give you excellent service and will last a long time.

http://www.ohiobrush.com/Pages/powertool.html

Or have a sand blaster do the work for you at considerably more money.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
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The wire wheel approach would be my last choice for removing rust from
large steel plates. No doubt iggy will go this way and then brag how
well it worked.
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On Jan 27, 1:56*pm, jon_banquer wrote:


The wire wheel approach would be my last choice for removing rust from
large steel plates. No doubt iggy will go this way and then brag how
well it worked.


Why are you always so negative?

So what would be you first choice?

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On Jan 27, 1:32*pm, " wrote:
On Jan 27, 1:56*pm, jon_banquer wrote:

The wire wheel approach would be my last choice for removing rust from
large steel plates. No doubt iggy will go this way and then brag how
well it worked.


Why are you always so negative?

So what would be you first choice?

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Dan


I've got every reason to be negative in this group. This newsgroup is
no longer about metalworking. It's now a group filled with phony
conservatives like Wieber that have no interest in improving their
metalworking skill set.

It's hard to give a first choice because iggy is a worthless piece of
**** who as per usual he have left out very important details such as:

How many plates need to be done per month? Are all the plates the same
size? If not, what is the largest size plate that will need to be
prepped. Does he have the space for dip tanks? Does he have a place
outside or a room to safely sand blast in? Does he have other
applications that would justify sand blasting. How big is his
compressor? Does he have a fresh air respirator?

http://www.nortonsandblasting.com/nsbNova3hoodSale.html

Does he have a shop laborer who has time to run a sand blaster? Has he
called a 3M rep and asked them to stop by and make suggestions on
which product they recommend?

It's not about learning for iggy. It's about the cheapest price and
bragging. iggy is a worthless **** who's not capable of doing much
learning when it comes to metalworking because his ego gets in the
way. He's only interested in the lowest price on everything and can
never see the big picture.



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On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:16:21 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer
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On Jan 27, 1:32*pm, " wrote:
On Jan 27, 1:56*pm, jon_banquer wrote:

The wire wheel approach would be my last choice for removing rust from
large steel plates. No doubt iggy will go this way and then brag how
well it worked.


Why are you always so negative?

So what would be you first choice?

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Dan


I've got every reason to be negative in this group. This newsgroup is
no longer about metalworking. It's now a group filled with phony
conservatives like Wieber that have no interest in improving their
metalworking skill set.


Then it is a little hard to understand why you infest this group. It
is basically a group for those who want to discuss recreational metal
working and is hardly where one would expect an ineffective computer
programmer to be found.

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On Jan 27, 5:16*pm, jon_banquer wrote:


It's hard to give a first choice because iggy is a worthless piece of
**** who as per usual he have left out very important details such as:

How many plates need to be done per month? Are all the plates the same
size? If not, what is the largest size plate that will need to be
prepped. Does he have the space for dip tanks? Does he have a place
outside or a room to safely sand blast in? Does he have other
applications that would justify sand blasting. How big is his
compressor? Does he have a fresh air respirator?

http://www.nortonsandblasting.com/nsbNova3hoodSale.html

Does he have a shop laborer who has time to run a sand blaster? Has he
called a 3M rep and asked them to stop by and make suggestions on
which product they recommend?


I have a hard time with your logic. Iggy has not presented enough
information to make a first choice, yet you can make a last choice.

Based on Iggy's previous posts, I would expect that he is thinking in
terms of three of four in a month and getting them clean enough to be
part of a welding table. And the size is what turns up so could be
from a couple of feet square to maybe as large as 4 by 10. So perfect
is not needed. Hardly worth setting up sand blaster and dip tanks
would just take a lot of room for not much use.


Dan


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On Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:07:05 PM UTC-6, Ignoramus25707 wrote:
I have a bunch of street plate steel, that I want to magically

transform into welding tables.



They have rust on them, it is not horribly deep, but it needs to be

removed.



What is the most efficient way to do it using, say, a 9 inch angle

grinder. What abrasive things are best for it?


I wonder if you could do it electrically? Say with a large piece of cloth saturated with PH Up from a swimming pool supply and a power supply. Pos side of the power supply hooked to a piece of sheetmetal, laid on top of the saturated cloth, and the neg side hooked to the plate. I do this with smaller parts in a bath often and it removes rust quite well, but slow
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