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Delvin Benet wrote: On the surface, this seems like it could be a reasonable proposition, but it's worth noting that Adam Lanza didn't buy the guns he used to commit his massacre, and Nancy Lanza almost certainly would have "passed" a background check. In other words, if this proposal had been in effect prior to the Newtown massacre, it would have had no effect in preventing the massacre. This is the classic illogic of hysterical leftists: use an event to try to enact a fix that would not have prevented the event. Hmm , the guys that do the crimes are already breaking laws ... what makes anybody think that they'll obey any new ones ? This is the major flaw in any gun ban/register/grab scenario , IMO . More laws won't make any difference in the people that shouldn't have guns , they're aleady breaking the law ! The only ones that'll be punished are those who already at least attempt to live within the law . And if they go ahead and pass the legislation , they'll only end up creating a new , very large and well-armed class of criminal . Something like 20 million guns sold in the last 3 weeks , IIRC . And boo-koo phonetic phrench ammo to go with them ... Almost makes me wish I still had more than the shotgun and Dad's Arisaka .... BTW Gunner I know you'll see this I've decided to wait and see if I can find some brass locally . Not that your price was unreasonable , all things considered , but it's just not worth the cost to me at this time of limited monetary resources . -- Snag Learning keeps you young ! |
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"Snag" wrote in message ... DISTRO PRUNED Delvin Benet wrote: On the surface, this seems like it could be a reasonable proposition, but it's worth noting that Adam Lanza didn't buy the guns he used to commit his massacre, and Nancy Lanza almost certainly would have "passed" a background check. In other words, if this proposal had been in effect prior to the Newtown massacre, it would have had no effect in preventing the massacre. This is the classic illogic of hysterical leftists: use an event to try to enact a fix that would not have prevented the event. Hmm , the guys that do the crimes are already breaking laws ... what makes anybody think that they'll obey any new ones ? This is the major flaw in any gun ban/register/grab scenario , IMO . More laws won't make any difference in the people that shouldn't have guns , they're aleady breaking the law ! Bull****. About 1/2 of all murders are committed by someone with no previous convictions. In other words, it was perfectly legal for them to own a gun.... |
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On 1/10/2013 4:08 PM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
wrote in message ... DISTRO PRUNED Delvin Benet wrote: On the surface, this seems like it could be a reasonable proposition, but it's worth noting that Adam Lanza didn't buy the guns he used to commit his massacre, and Nancy Lanza almost certainly would have "passed" a background check. In other words, if this proposal had been in effect prior to the Newtown massacre, it would have had no effect in preventing the massacre. This is the classic illogic of hysterical leftists: use an event to try to enact a fix that would not have prevented the event. Hmm , the guys that do the crimes are already breaking laws ... what makes anybody think that they'll obey any new ones ? This is the major flaw in any gun ban/register/grab scenario , IMO . More laws won't make any difference in the people that shouldn't have guns , they're aleady breaking the law ! Bull****. About 1/2 of all murders are committed by someone with no previous convictions. In other words, it was perfectly legal for them to own a gun.... Now, wait just a darn minute!!! If the penalty for murder is a long time in prison or worse... Where do all the convicted second offenders come from??? Donchajustlovestatistics? http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/fssc06st.pdf http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=3 http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=43 |
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:01:28 -0600, "Snag"
wrote: DISTRO PRUNED Delvin Benet wrote: On the surface, this seems like it could be a reasonable proposition, but it's worth noting that Adam Lanza didn't buy the guns he used to commit his massacre, and Nancy Lanza almost certainly would have "passed" a background check. In other words, if this proposal had been in effect prior to the Newtown massacre, it would have had no effect in preventing the massacre. This is the classic illogic of hysterical leftists: use an event to try to enact a fix that would not have prevented the event. Hmm , the guys that do the crimes are already breaking laws ... what makes anybody think that they'll obey any new ones ? This is the major flaw in any gun ban/register/grab scenario , IMO . More laws won't make any difference in the people that shouldn't have guns , they're aleady breaking the law ! The only ones that'll be punished are those who already at least attempt to live within the law . And if they go ahead and pass the legislation , they'll only end up creating a new , very large and well-armed class of criminal . Something like 20 million guns sold in the last 3 weeks , IIRC . And boo-koo phonetic phrench ammo to go with them ... Almost makes me wish I still had more than the shotgun and Dad's Arisaka ... BTW Gunner I know you'll see this I've decided to wait and see if I can find some brass locally . Not that your price was unreasonable , all things considered , but it's just not worth the cost to me at this time of limited monetary resources . Of course! Not a problem. I did give you the best price, but if you can find some locally..by all means grab it!! And you can..can convert 3006 cases, just be darned sure to keep your pressures way down..cast bullets are probably best when using such conversions. There is quite a bit on the net about doing it http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...of-30-06-cases HOLD IT!! HOLD IT!! ...found this via a comment on the threads http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/12653 Prvi brass is pretty good stuff!! Ive got NOS Norma..but this is a VERY good deal! Gunner -- Snag Learning keeps you young ! The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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On Jan 10, 6:01*pm, "Snag" wrote:
* DISTRO PRUNED Delvin Benet wrote: On the surface, this seems like it could be a reasonable proposition, but it's worth noting that Adam Lanza didn't buy the guns he used to commit his massacre, and Nancy Lanza almost certainly would have "passed" a background check. *In other words, if this proposal had been in effect prior to the Newtown massacre, it would have had no effect in preventing the massacre. This is the classic illogic of hysterical leftists: *use an event to try to enact a fix that would not have prevented the event. * Hmm , the guys that do the crimes are already breaking laws ... what makes anybody think that they'll obey any new ones ? This is the major flaw in any gun ban/register/grab scenario , IMO . More laws won't make any difference in the people that shouldn't have guns , they're aleady breaking the law ! The only ones that'll be punished are those who already at least attempt to live within the law . And if they go ahead and pass the legislation , they'll only end up creating a new , very large and well-armed class of criminal . Something like 20 million guns sold in the last 3 weeks , IIRC |
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On Friday, January 11, 2013 5:42:19 AM UTC-5, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Jan 10, 6:01*pm, "Snag" wrote: * DISTRO PRUNED Delvin Benet wrote: On the surface, this seems like it could be a reasonable proposition, but it's worth noting that Adam Lanza didn't buy the guns he used to commit his massacre, and Nancy Lanza almost certainly would have "passed" a background check. *In other words, if this proposal had been in effect prior to the Newtown massacre, it would have had no effect in preventing the massacre. This is the classic illogic of hysterical leftists: *use an event to try to enact a fix that would not have prevented the event. * Hmm , the guys that do the crimes are already breaking laws ... what makes anybody think that they'll obey any new ones ? This is the major flaw in any gun ban/register/grab scenario , IMO . More laws won't make any difference in the people that shouldn't have guns , they're aleady breaking the law ! The only ones that'll be punished are those who already at least attempt to live within the law . And if they go ahead and pass the legislation , they'll only end up creating a new , very large and well-armed class of criminal . Something like 20 million guns sold in the last 3 weeks , IIRC . And boo-koo phonetic phrench ammo to go with them ... * Almost makes me wish I still had more than the shotgun and Dad's Arisaka ... * BTW Gunner I know you'll see this I've decided to wait and see if I can find some brass locally . Not that your price was unreasonable , all things considered , but it's just not worth the cost to me at this time of limited monetary resources . *-- Snag Learning keeps you young ! Gunner is well known for trying to screw buyers. Along with the media, people with post graduate education are biased to the left, too - as says this study: "Academics, on average, lean to the left. A survey being released today suggests that they are moving even more in that direction." Read mo http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2...#ixzz38ETB08Tt ======================== So the result is: the media is leftist and most educated people are leftists. I'm wondering how cons can possibly complain about this. |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:49:00 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: * BTW Gunner I know you'll see this I've decided to wait and see if I can find some brass locally . Not that your price was unreasonable , all things considered , but it's just not worth the cost to me at this time of limited monetary resources . What did I offer the brass to you for, Snag? $20 a box for factory NOS unfired Norma Arisaka brass ( IRRC correctly) http://www.midwayusa.com/product/131...-77mm-japanese http://www.midwayusa.com/product/131...panese-arisaka Good luck finding Norma Jap brass for or less than $20 a box http://www.custombrassandbullets.com/norma.html You will notice its backordered and has been for over 2 yrs.... Now you can..can buy PRVI Partisan brass cheaper http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/12653 http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/12642 You can always convert other brass to 6.5 Jap with some effort 7.7 Brass...not so easily. Least not for full pressure rounds Thats up to you. *-- Snag Learning keeps you young ! Gunner is well known for trying to screw buyers. Of course I am. And of course you will present cites to that effect? Trot em out. Double dog dare you. Ill be waiting Gunner -- "Living in the United States now is like being a Tampon. We're in a great place, just at a bad time." |
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On 7/22/2014 3:49 PM, wrote:
Along with the media, people with post graduate education are biased to the left, too - as says this study: "Academics, on average, lean to the left. A survey being released today suggests that they are moving even more in that direction." Read mo http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2...#ixzz38ETB08Tt ======================== So the result is: the media is leftist and most educated people are leftists. I'm wondering how cons can possibly complain about this. The quotation says "academics", not educated people. Many educated people are not academics and actually live in the real world, not the sheltered halls of academia. The more they are sheltered from reality, the more they embrace the Establishment Left. Nothing new here, there hasn't been a real Left in the USA for 40 years. David |
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