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FS -- my 17.5 HP phase converter
Due to having moved into a warehouse with 800a 240v 3 phase, I no
longer need this phase converter: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5-Phase-Converter/ It has two idlers, 10 and 7.5 HP, nicely put in a welded roll around cabinet from a big Ferrups UPS. They start in sequence, providing for smoother startup process. Works great and has a very nice phase balance. You can run big stuff from it, such as welders, plasma cutters, or other metalworking machines. I have run all of the above from it. Has a 50A and 20A 3 phase outlets and a single phase convenience outlet. Price is $750 and assumes local pick-up in Lisle, IL. i |
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FS -- my 17.5 HP phase converter
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 15:00:16 -0600, Ignoramus21868
wrote: Due to having moved into a warehouse with 800a 240v 3 phase, I no longer need this phase converter: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5-Phase-Converter/ It has two idlers, 10 and 7.5 HP, nicely put in a welded roll around cabinet from a big Ferrups UPS. They start in sequence, providing for smoother startup process. Works great and has a very nice phase balance. You can run big stuff from it, such as welders, plasma cutters, or other metalworking machines. I have run all of the above from it. Has a 50A and 20A 3 phase outlets and a single phase convenience outlet. Price is $750 and assumes local pick-up in Lisle, IL. i Im curious Iggy..on your Ebay auction account..you have no auctions..but all Buy it nows. And in many cases...a bit (!) high... Hows that working out for you? Gunner The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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FS -- my 17.5 HP phase converter
On 2012-12-27, Gunner wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 15:00:16 -0600, Ignoramus21868 wrote: Due to having moved into a warehouse with 800a 240v 3 phase, I no longer need this phase converter: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5-Phase-Converter/ It has two idlers, 10 and 7.5 HP, nicely put in a welded roll around cabinet from a big Ferrups UPS. They start in sequence, providing for smoother startup process. Works great and has a very nice phase balance. You can run big stuff from it, such as welders, plasma cutters, or other metalworking machines. I have run all of the above from it. Has a 50A and 20A 3 phase outlets and a single phase convenience outlet. Price is $750 and assumes local pick-up in Lisle, IL. i Im curious Iggy..on your Ebay auction account..you have no auctions..but all Buy it nows. And in many cases...a bit (!) high... Hows that working out for you? It works out OK. I drop most prices automatically by 1.5 percent per week. I also sell a considerable amount off ebay. I sell appx. 15% of my inventory per month. i |
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FS -- my 17.5 HP phase converter
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:30:45 -0600, Ignoramus21868
wrote: On 2012-12-27, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 15:00:16 -0600, Ignoramus21868 wrote: Due to having moved into a warehouse with 800a 240v 3 phase, I no longer need this phase converter: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5-Phase-Converter/ It has two idlers, 10 and 7.5 HP, nicely put in a welded roll around cabinet from a big Ferrups UPS. They start in sequence, providing for smoother startup process. Works great and has a very nice phase balance. You can run big stuff from it, such as welders, plasma cutters, or other metalworking machines. I have run all of the above from it. Has a 50A and 20A 3 phase outlets and a single phase convenience outlet. Price is $750 and assumes local pick-up in Lisle, IL. i Im curious Iggy..on your Ebay auction account..you have no auctions..but all Buy it nows. And in many cases...a bit (!) high... Hows that working out for you? It works out OK. I drop most prices automatically by 1.5 percent per week. I also sell a considerable amount off ebay. I sell appx. 15% of my inventory per month. i Interesting. Id never seen 2000+ items on a site before, each of them Buy it now. How much for one of the old push button phones? Standard single line, nothing fancy. I like the old solid phones, not the crappy cordless ones, unless you have a super duper ultra reliable one available. I snagged a new wifi device from Sprint last month Sprint Phone Connect 2 Plug a standard phone into it and its unlimited talk, $20 a month. Totally portable. Take it and plug it into any 110vt power source. Sprints latest offering. I tossed all my old phones a few years ago. Ive got a fax machine on it but it wont send faxes for some reason. It does have a nice backup battery in it so will stay alive for about a day and a half ( I tested ) and allows about 2 hrs of talk time. So the "commune" here has a common phone for everybody to use and it was cheap enough. Gunner The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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Gunner wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:30:45 -0600, Ignoramus21868 wrote: On 2012-12-27, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 15:00:16 -0600, Ignoramus21868 wrote: Due to having moved into a warehouse with 800a 240v 3 phase, I no longer need this phase converter: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5-Phase-Converter/ It has two idlers, 10 and 7.5 HP, nicely put in a welded roll around cabinet from a big Ferrups UPS. They start in sequence, providing for smoother startup process. Works great and has a very nice phase balance. You can run big stuff from it, such as welders, plasma cutters, or other metalworking machines. I have run all of the above from it. Has a 50A and 20A 3 phase outlets and a single phase convenience outlet. Price is $750 and assumes local pick-up in Lisle, IL. i Im curious Iggy..on your Ebay auction account..you have no auctions..but all Buy it nows. And in many cases...a bit (!) high... Hows that working out for you? It works out OK. I drop most prices automatically by 1.5 percent per week. I also sell a considerable amount off ebay. I sell appx. 15% of my inventory per month. i Interesting. Id never seen 2000+ items on a site before, each of them Buy it now. I don't bother with his listings, since it's all dumped into one catagory. The things I've stumbled across in his listings had lousy, small photos so I kept looking and bought from someone else. I bought five Fluke 8050A meters over the last two years and have repaired four of them. The one he had listed was so dirty you couldn't see what shape the case was really in and it was one of the highest priced ones on Ebay at the time. |
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On 2012-12-27, Gunner wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:30:45 -0600, Ignoramus21868 wrote: On 2012-12-27, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 15:00:16 -0600, Ignoramus21868 wrote: Due to having moved into a warehouse with 800a 240v 3 phase, I no longer need this phase converter: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5-Phase-Converter/ It has two idlers, 10 and 7.5 HP, nicely put in a welded roll around cabinet from a big Ferrups UPS. They start in sequence, providing for smoother startup process. Works great and has a very nice phase balance. You can run big stuff from it, such as welders, plasma cutters, or other metalworking machines. I have run all of the above from it. Has a 50A and 20A 3 phase outlets and a single phase convenience outlet. Price is $750 and assumes local pick-up in Lisle, IL. i Im curious Iggy..on your Ebay auction account..you have no auctions..but all Buy it nows. And in many cases...a bit (!) high... Hows that working out for you? It works out OK. I drop most prices automatically by 1.5 percent per week. I also sell a considerable amount off ebay. I sell appx. 15% of my inventory per month. i Interesting. Id never seen 2000+ items on a site before, each of them Buy it now. When I have something that is suitable for auction, I list it as such. Also, keep in mind that I accept best offers. i How much for one of the old push button phones? Standard single line, nothing fancy. I like the old solid phones, not the crappy cordless ones, unless you have a super duper ultra reliable one available. I snagged a new wifi device from Sprint last month Sprint Phone Connect 2 Plug a standard phone into it and its unlimited talk, $20 a month. Totally portable. Take it and plug it into any 110vt power source. Sprints latest offering. I tossed all my old phones a few years ago. Ive got a fax machine on it but it wont send faxes for some reason. It does have a nice backup battery in it so will stay alive for about a day and a half ( I tested ) and allows about 2 hrs of talk time. So the "commune" here has a common phone for everybody to use and it was cheap enough. Gunner The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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FS -- my 17.5 HP phase converter
On 2012-12-27, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Gunner wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:30:45 -0600, Ignoramus21868 wrote: On 2012-12-27, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 15:00:16 -0600, Ignoramus21868 wrote: Due to having moved into a warehouse with 800a 240v 3 phase, I no longer need this phase converter: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5-Phase-Converter/ It has two idlers, 10 and 7.5 HP, nicely put in a welded roll around cabinet from a big Ferrups UPS. They start in sequence, providing for smoother startup process. Works great and has a very nice phase balance. You can run big stuff from it, such as welders, plasma cutters, or other metalworking machines. I have run all of the above from it. Has a 50A and 20A 3 phase outlets and a single phase convenience outlet. Price is $750 and assumes local pick-up in Lisle, IL. i Im curious Iggy..on your Ebay auction account..you have no auctions..but all Buy it nows. And in many cases...a bit (!) high... Hows that working out for you? It works out OK. I drop most prices automatically by 1.5 percent per week. I also sell a considerable amount off ebay. I sell appx. 15% of my inventory per month. i Interesting. Id never seen 2000+ items on a site before, each of them Buy it now. I don't bother with his listings, since it's all dumped into one catagory. The things I've stumbled across in his listings had lousy, small photos so I kept looking and bought from someone else. I bought five Fluke 8050A meters over the last two years and have repaired four of them. The one he had listed was so dirty you couldn't see what shape the case was really in and it was one of the highest priced ones on Ebay at the time. My images are 1936 x 1296. i |
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Ignoramus26081 wrote: On 2012-12-27, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Gunner wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:30:45 -0600, Ignoramus21868 wrote: On 2012-12-27, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 15:00:16 -0600, Ignoramus21868 wrote: Due to having moved into a warehouse with 800a 240v 3 phase, I no longer need this phase converter: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5-Phase-Converter/ It has two idlers, 10 and 7.5 HP, nicely put in a welded roll around cabinet from a big Ferrups UPS. They start in sequence, providing for smoother startup process. Works great and has a very nice phase balance. You can run big stuff from it, such as welders, plasma cutters, or other metalworking machines. I have run all of the above from it. Has a 50A and 20A 3 phase outlets and a single phase convenience outlet. Price is $750 and assumes local pick-up in Lisle, IL. i Im curious Iggy..on your Ebay auction account..you have no auctions..but all Buy it nows. And in many cases...a bit (!) high... Hows that working out for you? It works out OK. I drop most prices automatically by 1.5 percent per week. I also sell a considerable amount off ebay. I sell appx. 15% of my inventory per month. i Interesting. Id never seen 2000+ items on a site before, each of them Buy it now. I don't bother with his listings, since it's all dumped into one catagory. The things I've stumbled across in his listings had lousy, small photos so I kept looking and bought from someone else. I bought five Fluke 8050A meters over the last two years and have repaired four of them. The one he had listed was so dirty you couldn't see what shape the case was really in and it was one of the highest priced ones on Ebay at the time. My images are 1936 x 1296. The items I looked at were tiny, in the center of those 1936 x 1296. The focus was poor, as well. The beer can next to the item doesn't help, either. |
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Ignoramus21868 wrote:
Due to having moved into a warehouse with 800a 240v 3 phase, I no longer need this phase converter: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5-Phase-Converter/ It has two idlers, 10 and 7.5 HP, nicely put in a welded roll around cabinet from a big Ferrups UPS. They start in sequence, providing for smoother startup process. Works great and has a very nice phase balance. You can run big stuff from it, such as welders, plasma cutters, or other metalworking machines. I have run all of the above from it. Has a 50A and 20A 3 phase outlets and a single phase convenience outlet. Price is $750 and assumes local pick-up in Lisle, IL. i I've seen this before. that's some terrifying wiring going on in these photos. http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5...r/dscf0015.jpg ground terminals clamped over nylon cable clamps? WRONG. http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5...r/dscf0011.jpg it's clockwise for tightening stuff in the US. I'm not sure what's going on those those capacitors with the white leads. |
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On 2012-12-28, Cydrome Leader wrote:
Ignoramus21868 wrote: Due to having moved into a warehouse with 800a 240v 3 phase, I no longer need this phase converter: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5-Phase-Converter/ [ ... ] I've seen this before. that's some terrifying wiring going on in these photos. http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5...r/dscf0015.jpg ground terminals clamped over nylon cable clamps? WRONG. It *may* be that there is an extra nut above the cable clamp and below the terminal, in which case it is not as bad -- but since the cable clamp is doing nothing anyway, it should have been removed, along with that short white wire -- left over from the BEST Power Systems UPS whose chassis was used. http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5...r/dscf0011.jpg it's clockwise for tightening stuff in the US. I'm not sure what's going on those those capacitors with the white leads. No crimped terminals there -- but the white wires appear to be solid anyway, so they would not work well with the crimp terminals used there. I suspect that last capacitor was added in the process of tuning. And they all really needs clamp to mount those capacitors firmly as well -- especially since it will be exposed to the vibration of the idler motors. (A good reason for not using solid wire, as well, as that flexes and breaks with vibration over time.) Enjoy, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On 2012-12-28, DoN. Nichols wrote:
On 2012-12-28, Cydrome Leader wrote: Ignoramus21868 wrote: Due to having moved into a warehouse with 800a 240v 3 phase, I no longer need this phase converter: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5-Phase-Converter/ [ ... ] I've seen this before. that's some terrifying wiring going on in these photos. http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5...r/dscf0015.jpg ground terminals clamped over nylon cable clamps? WRONG. It *may* be that there is an extra nut above the cable clamp and below the terminal, in which case it is not as bad -- but since the cable clamp is doing nothing anyway, it should have been removed, along with that short white wire -- left over from the BEST Power Systems UPS whose chassis was used. http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5...r/dscf0011.jpg it's clockwise for tightening stuff in the US. I'm not sure what's going on those those capacitors with the white leads. No crimped terminals there -- but the white wires appear to be solid anyway, so they would not work well with the crimp terminals used there. I suspect that last capacitor was added in the process of tuning. And they all really needs clamp to mount those capacitors firmly as well -- especially since it will be exposed to the vibration of the idler motors. (A good reason for not using solid wire, as well, as that flexes and breaks with vibration over time.) It worked out the first time, tuning was not necessary. Two capacitors start the 10 HP motor nicely. The other two capacitors are added to the other side of the three phase when the second motor is turned on. I do not think that any solid wires are used there. The wiring is not perfect, it was one of my first projects. i |
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On 2012-12-28, Ignoramus1442 wrote:
On 2012-12-28, DoN. Nichols wrote: On 2012-12-28, Cydrome Leader wrote: [ ... ] http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5...r/dscf0011.jpg it's clockwise for tightening stuff in the US. I'm not sure what's going on those those capacitors with the white leads. No crimped terminals there -- but the white wires appear to be solid anyway, so they would not work well with the crimp terminals used there. I suspect that last capacitor was added in the process of tuning. And they all really needs clamp to mount those capacitors firmly as well -- especially since it will be exposed to the vibration of the idler motors. (A good reason for not using solid wire, as well, as that flexes and breaks with vibration over time.) It worked out the first time, tuning was not necessary. Two capacitors start the 10 HP motor nicely. The other two capacitors are added to the other side of the three phase when the second motor is turned on. I do not think that any solid wires are used there. Are you sure? The white ones joining the second capacitor to the first look solid. The wiring is not perfect, it was one of my first projects. Before you started collecting good crimpers? :-) But mostly, I think that the big capacitors do need to be firmly clamped down. That sort used to be sold with two metal plates about 3/4" wide with two fingers bent 180 degrees to hook over the rim, and a spot-welded flattened end of some allthread (about 8-32 or 10-32) which would go through the metal plate and nuts would pull them down to hold the caps in place. Enjoy, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On Dec 27, 10:43*pm, Cydrome Leader wrote:
Ignoramus21868 wrote: Due to having moved into a warehouse with 800a 240v 3 phase, I no longer need this phase converter: * * *http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5-Phase-Converter/ It has two idlers, 10 and 7.5 HP, nicely put in a welded roll around cabinet from a big Ferrups UPS. They start in sequence, providing for smoother startup process. Works great and has a very nice phase balance. You can run big stuff from it, such as welders, plasma cutters, or other metalworking machines. I have run all of the above from it. Has a 50A and 20A 3 phase outlets and a single phase convenience outlet. Price is $750 and assumes local pick-up in Lisle, IL. i I've seen this before. that's some terrifying wiring going on in these photos. http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5...r/dscf0015.jpg ground terminals clamped over nylon cable clamps? WRONG. http://igor.chudov.com/projects/17.5...r/dscf0011.jpg it's clockwise for tightening stuff in the US. I'm not sure what's going on those those capacitors with the white leads. What's terrifying is that now that he knows he's wrong he still won't fix it and will sell it this way. Quality and ethics aren't something he understands or cares about. What he understands is try and buy everything as cheap as possible. He once tried buying **** from me and failed miserably because he has no concept of quality and I don't sell high quality stuff dirt cheap. |
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On 12/29/2012 5:47 PM, DoN. Nichols wrote:
.... But mostly, I think that the big capacitors do need to be firmly clamped down.... Where they gonna' go????? -- |
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 08:34:57 -0600, dpb wrote:
On 12/29/2012 5:47 PM, DoN. Nichols wrote: ... But mostly, I think that the big capacitors do need to be firmly clamped down.... Where they gonna' go????? Beamed out into a nun's bathtub? Horrifying! |
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dpb wrote: On 12/29/2012 5:47 PM, DoN. Nichols wrote: ... ? But mostly, I think that the big capacitors do need to be firmly ? clamped down.... Where they gonna' go????? Where they don't belong. Where else COULD they go? Have you ever seen the damage when one of this big caps explode? Some have PCBs, wich could require you to hire a hazmat team to clean up the site. |
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On 2012-12-30, dpb wrote:
On 12/29/2012 5:47 PM, DoN. Nichols wrote: ... But mostly, I think that the big capacitors do need to be firmly clamped down.... Where they gonna' go????? Since he is selling it (or trying to) they would not like shipping very much. And -- with the idler motors adding vibration (they are i the same housing) having the caps free to move a bit flexes the wires and likely introduces failures there. Enjoy, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On Jan 1, 4:27*pm, "DoN. Nichols" wrote:
On 2012-12-30, dpb wrote: On 12/29/2012 5:47 PM, DoN. Nichols wrote: ... * * * *But mostly, I think that the big capacitors do need to be firmly clamped down.... Where they gonna' go????? * * * * Since he is selling it (or trying to) they would not like shipping very much. * * * * And -- with the idler motors adding vibration (they are i the same housing) having the caps free to move a bit flexes the wires and likely introduces failures there. * * * * Enjoy, * * * * * * * * DoN. -- * * * * * * * * * Remove oil spill source from e-mail *Email: * | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 * * * * * (too) near Washington D.C. |http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html * * * * * *--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- How much time and money would it take to fix this thing so that it's right? |
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