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On 12/19/2012 10:26 AM, Gunner wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:03:27 -0800, "Fred C. Dobbs"
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On 12/19/2012 9:46 AM, Gunner wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:02:34 -0800, "Fred C. Dobbs"
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I've been advocating Hornet Spray for YEARS! It's one of the best home
defense items available! A big can has more "shots" than a bananna
magazine. No holes in the wall and non-lethal...just wash the walls
after you soak the intruder down.

Who will be around to wash the walls? Ive seen more than one person
killed by someone that was assumed to be incapacited.

Bull****. Crikey - you are the most comical pseudo-tough braggart in years.

pseudo-tough braggart for stating Ive seen something awful happen?

For *always* having some "you can't top this" bit of bull**** handy.

You weren't a Ranger; you weren't in Vietnam. Cut the ****, buddy.


Cites?


guffaw No, the burden of proof is on you. Prove that you were a
Ranger and were in Vietnam.

We've been waiting for years. You can't do it - you know you can't, we
know you can't, and we know that you know you can't because it's bull****.



Still waiting for your cites.

VBG

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3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie
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Gunner wrote:

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:13:41 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
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Gunner wrote:

Who will be around to wash the walls? Ive seen more than one person
killed by someone that was assumed to be incapacited. Drugs often make
Mace and other chemical agents not considered. I watched a guy take
at least a quart of burning gasoline in the face and find and spray
himself with a fire extinguisher to put out the flames.

But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for
me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote


How about using a can of starting fluid & a lighter?


Flame doesnt go far enough. Nor does it last long enough. No
persistance.



Soak them first, then light them up.


Better to use a wasp spray and a Bic lighter. Good distance, decent
flame, toxic contents AND byproducts.

But then..a pistol only needs one hand and tucks away better than does
a spray can.

Shrug


The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie
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On 12/19/2012 11:40 AM, Gunner wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:40:35 -0800, "Fred C. Dobbs"
wrote:

On 12/19/2012 10:26 AM, Gunner wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:03:27 -0800, "Fred C. Dobbs"
wrote:

On 12/19/2012 9:46 AM, Gunner wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:02:34 -0800, "Fred C. Dobbs"
wrote:


I've been advocating Hornet Spray for YEARS! It's one of the best home
defense items available! A big can has more "shots" than a bananna
magazine. No holes in the wall and non-lethal...just wash the walls
after you soak the intruder down.

Who will be around to wash the walls? Ive seen more than one person
killed by someone that was assumed to be incapacited.

Bull****. Crikey - you are the most comical pseudo-tough braggart in years.

pseudo-tough braggart for stating Ive seen something awful happen?

For *always* having some "you can't top this" bit of bull**** handy.

You weren't a Ranger; you weren't in Vietnam. Cut the ****, buddy.

Cites?


guffaw No, the burden of proof is on you. Prove that you were a
Ranger and were in Vietnam.

We've been waiting for years. You can't do it - you know you can't, we
know you can't, and we know that you know you can't because it's bull****.



Still waiting for


The burden of proof is on you. We've been waiting for your cites for
years. You can't give any - your story is bull****.

Say - aren't you a little overdue to run away after making a big
pretense of killfiling me?


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How about using a can of starting fluid & a lighter?


Inside the house?!?


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His wife says yes........ and put the seat down.

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On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 7:13:41 AM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:
How about using a can of starting fluid & a lighter?


Inside the house?!?



Is your aim that bad?




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On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:45:19 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
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?
?Gunner wrote:
??
?? On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:13:41 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
?? ? wrote:
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?? ?Gunner wrote:
?? ??
?? ?? Who will be around to wash the walls? Ive seen more than one person
?? ?? killed by someone that was assumed to be incapacited. Drugs often make
?? ?? Mace and other chemical agents not considered. I watched a guy take
?? ?? at least a quart of burning gasoline in the face and find and spray
?? ?? himself with a fire extinguisher to put out the flames.
?? ??
?? ?? But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for
?? ?? me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote
?? ?
?? ?
?? ? How about using a can of starting fluid ? a lighter?
??
?? Flame doesnt go far enough. Nor does it last long enough. No
?? persistance.
?
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? Soak them first, then light them up.

Better to use a wasp spray and a Bic lighter. Good distance, decent
flame, toxic contents AND byproducts.

But then..a pistol only needs one hand and tucks away better than does
a spray can.



There are cans of both sitting near the main entrance. Most would
ignore them, thinking they would be useless for defense and I prefer to
do my shooting outdoors.
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Stormin Mormon wrote:

His wife says yes........ and put the seat down.



In an outhouse?
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But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for
me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote



But I HATE doing drywall!

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? But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for
? me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote

But I HATE doing drywall!




Some lesbian you are!
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Hornet Spray is even better than pepper spray, it is legal, doesn't look to be scary, and will temporarily blind the recipient.


I've been advocating Hornet Spray for YEARS! It's one of the best home
defense items available! A big can has more "shots" than a bananna
magazine. No holes in the wall and non-lethal...just wash the walls
after you soak the intruder down.


Who will be around to wash the walls? Ive seen more than one person
killed by someone that was assumed to be incapacited. Drugs often make
Mace and other chemical agents not considered. I watched a guy take
at least a quart of burning gasoline in the face and find and spray
himself with a fire extinguisher to put out the flames.

But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing.


It's a misdemeanor ($1k fine, 30 days jail) to use pesticide in any
way other than its intended use to kill hornets. I'd rather have the
police angry with me than a vengeful regulatory agency. shudder


As for me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote


That's effective! My 9mm will take down the first offender and is so
loud, the rest will surely flee. The little KelTec is -deafening-. My
amplified, noise-cancelling muffs are near the pistol so they'd go on
first if there was time.

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Tom Gardner wrote:

On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote:
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? But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for
? me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote

But I HATE doing drywall!


Some lesbian you are!


The gal's obviously never heard of Bondo.

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:20:23 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
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Tom Gardner wrote:

On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote:
?
? But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for
? me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote

But I HATE doing drywall!


Some lesbian you are!


The gal's obviously never heard of Bondo.



You've obviously never seen her use it on her face, for a base coat.
;-)
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Tom Gardner wrote:

On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote:
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? But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for
? me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote

But I HATE doing drywall!




Some lesbian you are!


I DO like Decorative Painting!
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:28:36 -0800, Gunner
wrote:
Others said:
Hornet Spray is even better than pepper spray, it is legal, doesn't look to be scary, and will temporarily blind the recipient.


I've been advocating Hornet Spray for YEARS! It's one of the best home
defense items available! A big can has more "shots" than a bananna
magazine. No holes in the wall and non-lethal...just wash the walls
after you soak the intruder down.


Who will be around to wash the walls? Ive seen more than one person
killed by someone that was assumed to be incapacited. Drugs often make
Mace and other chemical agents not considered. I watched a guy take
at least a quart of burning gasoline in the face and find and spray
himself with a fire extinguisher to put out the flames.

But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing.


It's a misdemeanor ($1k fine, 30 days jail) to use pesticide in any
way other than its intended use to kill hornets. I'd rather have the
police angry with me than a vengeful regulatory agency. shudder


As for me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote


That's effective! My 9mm will take down the first offender and is so
loud, the rest will surely flee. The little KelTec is -deafening-. My
amplified, noise-cancelling muffs are near the pistol so they'd go on
first if there was time.

--
It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are
not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment.
-- Freeman Dyson


I confess, I *USED* to have a 9mm Springfield XD on my nightstand and my
airweight elsewhere that was easy to grab. BUT, I don't have any
firearms anymore...they're just too dangerous! And yes, I STILL teach
CCW and other classes.
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Larry Jaques wrote:

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:20:23 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
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Tom Gardner wrote:

On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote:
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? But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for
? me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote

But I HATE doing drywall!

Some lesbian you are!


The gal's obviously never heard of Bondo.



You've obviously never seen her use it on her face, for a base coat.
;-)


Oh, THAT's why she uses her own brushes to remove makeup. Got it.

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Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Some lesbian you are!

The gal's obviously never heard of Bondo.


You've obviously never seen her use it on her face, for a base coat.
;-)


Oh, THAT's why she uses her own brushes to remove makeup. Got it.




Where do you think they came up with their 'Cadaver Brush'? ;-)
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Larry Jaques wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Some lesbian you are!

The gal's obviously never heard of Bondo.

You've obviously never seen her use it on her face, for a base coat.
;-)


Oh, THAT's why she uses her own brushes to remove makeup. Got it.


Where do you think they came up with their 'Cadaver Brush'? ;-)


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On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote:

But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for
me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote



But I HATE doing drywall!


Then use a .22. You can do the drywall with a couple dabs of patch.


The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie
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On 12/20/2012 10:50 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:28:36 -0800, Gunner
wrote:
Others said:
Hornet Spray is even better than pepper spray, it is legal, doesn't look to be scary, and will temporarily blind the recipient.


I've been advocating Hornet Spray for YEARS! It's one of the best home
defense items available! A big can has more "shots" than a bananna
magazine. No holes in the wall and non-lethal...just wash the walls
after you soak the intruder down.

Who will be around to wash the walls? Ive seen more than one person
killed by someone that was assumed to be incapacited. Drugs often make
Mace and other chemical agents not considered. I watched a guy take
at least a quart of burning gasoline in the face and find and spray
himself with a fire extinguisher to put out the flames.

But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing.


It's a misdemeanor ($1k fine, 30 days jail) to use pesticide in any
way other than its intended use to kill hornets. I'd rather have the
police angry with me than a vengeful regulatory agency. shudder


As for me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote


That's effective! My 9mm will take down the first offender and is so
loud, the rest will surely flee. The little KelTec is -deafening-. My
amplified, noise-cancelling muffs are near the pistol so they'd go on
first if there was time.

--
It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are
not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment.
-- Freeman Dyson


I confess, I *USED* to have a 9mm Springfield XD on my nightstand and my
airweight elsewhere that was easy to grab. BUT, I don't have any
firearms anymore...they're just too dangerous! And yes, I STILL teach
CCW and other classes.


I used to keep a Springfield P9c around the house. Kept it in the
headboard and a 12ga on the headboard. No idea why though. I am a
much bigger fan of .45s. I guess because I owned it. Shrug

But like Tom..I turned all my guns in a couple years ago and got a
free TV for them!!

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:01:40 -0500, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:

On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote:

But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for
me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote



But I HATE doing drywall!


Then use a .22. You can do the drywall with a couple dabs of patch.


..22 LR HP through the eye socket leaves a large brain-splatter, too,
doesn't it? It's a good thing 5gal buckets of primer are cheap.

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:01:40 -0500, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:
On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote:
But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for
me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote


But I HATE doing drywall!


What so hard about "doin' drywall"? Put it in the back of the
truck , take it for a little ride, hit it with a hammer and lay it out
on the road.turn around and drive back. No problem!

Then use a .22. You can do the drywall with a couple dabs of patch.


Wait, what? Oh, I'm sorry, youse guys was talking about fixing
dry wall, not doin' it in. Oi, is my face red.

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On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 03:56:57 -0800, Gunner
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:01:40 -0500, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:

On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote:

But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for
me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote



But I HATE doing drywall!


Then use a .22. You can do the drywall with a couple dabs of patch.


.22 LR HP through the eye socket leaves a large brain-splatter, too,
doesn't it? It's a good thing 5gal buckets of primer are cheap.


Shucks at house ranges, anywhere square on the skull will get an entry
and the slug tends to simply bounce around inside the skull and not
exit.

He might bleed on your carpet, but even that would be a trickle

Simply stick a plastic garbage bag over his head before calling the
cops.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie
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