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On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:40:35 -0800, "Fred C. Dobbs"
wrote: On 12/19/2012 10:26 AM, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:03:27 -0800, "Fred C. Dobbs" wrote: On 12/19/2012 9:46 AM, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:02:34 -0800, "Fred C. Dobbs" wrote: I've been advocating Hornet Spray for YEARS! It's one of the best home defense items available! A big can has more "shots" than a bananna magazine. No holes in the wall and non-lethal...just wash the walls after you soak the intruder down. Who will be around to wash the walls? Ive seen more than one person killed by someone that was assumed to be incapacited. Bull****. Crikey - you are the most comical pseudo-tough braggart in years. pseudo-tough braggart for stating Ive seen something awful happen? For *always* having some "you can't top this" bit of bull**** handy. You weren't a Ranger; you weren't in Vietnam. Cut the ****, buddy. Cites? guffaw No, the burden of proof is on you. Prove that you were a Ranger and were in Vietnam. We've been waiting for years. You can't do it - you know you can't, we know you can't, and we know that you know you can't because it's bull****. Still waiting for your cites. VBG Gunner The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:45:19 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Gunner wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:13:41 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Gunner wrote: Who will be around to wash the walls? Ive seen more than one person killed by someone that was assumed to be incapacited. Drugs often make Mace and other chemical agents not considered. I watched a guy take at least a quart of burning gasoline in the face and find and spray himself with a fire extinguisher to put out the flames. But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote How about using a can of starting fluid & a lighter? Flame doesnt go far enough. Nor does it last long enough. No persistance. Soak them first, then light them up. Better to use a wasp spray and a Bic lighter. Good distance, decent flame, toxic contents AND byproducts. But then..a pistol only needs one hand and tucks away better than does a spray can. Shrug The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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On 12/19/2012 11:40 AM, Gunner wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:40:35 -0800, "Fred C. Dobbs" wrote: On 12/19/2012 10:26 AM, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:03:27 -0800, "Fred C. Dobbs" wrote: On 12/19/2012 9:46 AM, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:02:34 -0800, "Fred C. Dobbs" wrote: I've been advocating Hornet Spray for YEARS! It's one of the best home defense items available! A big can has more "shots" than a bananna magazine. No holes in the wall and non-lethal...just wash the walls after you soak the intruder down. Who will be around to wash the walls? Ive seen more than one person killed by someone that was assumed to be incapacited. Bull****. Crikey - you are the most comical pseudo-tough braggart in years. pseudo-tough braggart for stating Ive seen something awful happen? For *always* having some "you can't top this" bit of bull**** handy. You weren't a Ranger; you weren't in Vietnam. Cut the ****, buddy. Cites? guffaw No, the burden of proof is on you. Prove that you were a Ranger and were in Vietnam. We've been waiting for years. You can't do it - you know you can't, we know you can't, and we know that you know you can't because it's bull****. Still waiting for The burden of proof is on you. We've been waiting for your cites for years. You can't give any - your story is bull****. Say - aren't you a little overdue to run away after making a big pretense of killfiling me? -- Any more lip out of you and I'll haul off and let you have it...if you know what's good for you, you won't monkey around with Fred C. Dobbs. |
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Just like Bond...... James Bond.....
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "rangerssuck" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 7:13:41 AM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote: How about using a can of starting fluid & a lighter? Inside the house?!? |
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His wife says yes........ and put the seat down.
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... rangerssuck wrote: On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 7:13:41 AM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote: How about using a can of starting fluid & a lighter? Inside the house?!? Is your aim that bad? |
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Gunner wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:45:19 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" ? wrote: ? ?Gunner wrote: ?? ?? On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:13:41 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" ?? ? wrote: ?? ?? ? ?? ?Gunner wrote: ?? ?? ?? ?? Who will be around to wash the walls? Ive seen more than one person ?? ?? killed by someone that was assumed to be incapacited. Drugs often make ?? ?? Mace and other chemical agents not considered. I watched a guy take ?? ?? at least a quart of burning gasoline in the face and find and spray ?? ?? himself with a fire extinguisher to put out the flames. ?? ?? ?? ?? But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for ?? ?? me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote ?? ? ?? ? ?? ? How about using a can of starting fluid ? a lighter? ?? ?? Flame doesnt go far enough. Nor does it last long enough. No ?? persistance. ? ? ? Soak them first, then light them up. Better to use a wasp spray and a Bic lighter. Good distance, decent flame, toxic contents AND byproducts. But then..a pistol only needs one hand and tucks away better than does a spray can. There are cans of both sitting near the main entrance. Most would ignore them, thinking they would be useless for defense and I prefer to do my shooting outdoors. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote: His wife says yes........ and put the seat down. In an outhouse? |
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On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote:
But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote But I HATE doing drywall! |
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Tom Gardner wrote: On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote: ? ? But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for ? me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote But I HATE doing drywall! Some lesbian you are! |
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:28:36 -0800, Gunner
wrote: Others said: Hornet Spray is even better than pepper spray, it is legal, doesn't look to be scary, and will temporarily blind the recipient. I've been advocating Hornet Spray for YEARS! It's one of the best home defense items available! A big can has more "shots" than a bananna magazine. No holes in the wall and non-lethal...just wash the walls after you soak the intruder down. Who will be around to wash the walls? Ive seen more than one person killed by someone that was assumed to be incapacited. Drugs often make Mace and other chemical agents not considered. I watched a guy take at least a quart of burning gasoline in the face and find and spray himself with a fire extinguisher to put out the flames. But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. It's a misdemeanor ($1k fine, 30 days jail) to use pesticide in any way other than its intended use to kill hornets. I'd rather have the police angry with me than a vengeful regulatory agency. shudder As for me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote That's effective! My 9mm will take down the first offender and is so loud, the rest will surely flee. The little KelTec is -deafening-. My amplified, noise-cancelling muffs are near the pistol so they'd go on first if there was time. -- It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment. -- Freeman Dyson |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:20:23 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote: ? ? But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for ? me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote But I HATE doing drywall! Some lesbian you are! The gal's obviously never heard of Bondo. -- It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment. -- Freeman Dyson |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:20:23 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote: ? ? But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for ? me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote But I HATE doing drywall! Some lesbian you are! The gal's obviously never heard of Bondo. You've obviously never seen her use it on her face, for a base coat. ;-) |
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On 12/19/2012 6:20 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote: On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote: ? ? But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for ? me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote But I HATE doing drywall! Some lesbian you are! I DO like Decorative Painting! http://www.decorativepainters.org/ |
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On 12/20/2012 10:50 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:28:36 -0800, Gunner wrote: Others said: Hornet Spray is even better than pepper spray, it is legal, doesn't look to be scary, and will temporarily blind the recipient. I've been advocating Hornet Spray for YEARS! It's one of the best home defense items available! A big can has more "shots" than a bananna magazine. No holes in the wall and non-lethal...just wash the walls after you soak the intruder down. Who will be around to wash the walls? Ive seen more than one person killed by someone that was assumed to be incapacited. Drugs often make Mace and other chemical agents not considered. I watched a guy take at least a quart of burning gasoline in the face and find and spray himself with a fire extinguisher to put out the flames. But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. It's a misdemeanor ($1k fine, 30 days jail) to use pesticide in any way other than its intended use to kill hornets. I'd rather have the police angry with me than a vengeful regulatory agency. shudder As for me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote That's effective! My 9mm will take down the first offender and is so loud, the rest will surely flee. The little KelTec is -deafening-. My amplified, noise-cancelling muffs are near the pistol so they'd go on first if there was time. -- It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment. -- Freeman Dyson I confess, I *USED* to have a 9mm Springfield XD on my nightstand and my airweight elsewhere that was easy to grab. BUT, I don't have any firearms anymore...they're just too dangerous! And yes, I STILL teach CCW and other classes. |
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:08:59 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:20:23 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote: ? ? But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for ? me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote But I HATE doing drywall! Some lesbian you are! The gal's obviously never heard of Bondo. You've obviously never seen her use it on her face, for a base coat. ;-) Oh, THAT's why she uses her own brushes to remove makeup. Got it. -- It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment. -- Freeman Dyson |
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Larry Jaques wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Some lesbian you are! The gal's obviously never heard of Bondo. You've obviously never seen her use it on her face, for a base coat. ;-) Oh, THAT's why she uses her own brushes to remove makeup. Got it. Where do you think they came up with their 'Cadaver Brush'? ;-) |
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 00:14:14 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Some lesbian you are! The gal's obviously never heard of Bondo. You've obviously never seen her use it on her face, for a base coat. ;-) Oh, THAT's why she uses her own brushes to remove makeup. Got it. Where do you think they came up with their 'Cadaver Brush'? ;-) Oh! Merry Christmas, Tawmmy! -- There is nothing more frightening than ignorance in action. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:01:40 -0500, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:
On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote: But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote But I HATE doing drywall! Then use a .22. You can do the drywall with a couple dabs of patch. The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:48:33 -0500, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:
On 12/20/2012 10:50 AM, Larry Jaques wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:28:36 -0800, Gunner wrote: Others said: Hornet Spray is even better than pepper spray, it is legal, doesn't look to be scary, and will temporarily blind the recipient. I've been advocating Hornet Spray for YEARS! It's one of the best home defense items available! A big can has more "shots" than a bananna magazine. No holes in the wall and non-lethal...just wash the walls after you soak the intruder down. Who will be around to wash the walls? Ive seen more than one person killed by someone that was assumed to be incapacited. Drugs often make Mace and other chemical agents not considered. I watched a guy take at least a quart of burning gasoline in the face and find and spray himself with a fire extinguisher to put out the flames. But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. It's a misdemeanor ($1k fine, 30 days jail) to use pesticide in any way other than its intended use to kill hornets. I'd rather have the police angry with me than a vengeful regulatory agency. shudder As for me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote That's effective! My 9mm will take down the first offender and is so loud, the rest will surely flee. The little KelTec is -deafening-. My amplified, noise-cancelling muffs are near the pistol so they'd go on first if there was time. -- It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment. -- Freeman Dyson I confess, I *USED* to have a 9mm Springfield XD on my nightstand and my airweight elsewhere that was easy to grab. BUT, I don't have any firearms anymore...they're just too dangerous! And yes, I STILL teach CCW and other classes. I used to keep a Springfield P9c around the house. Kept it in the headboard and a 12ga on the headboard. No idea why though. I am a much bigger fan of .45s. I guess because I owned it. Shrug But like Tom..I turned all my guns in a couple years ago and got a free TV for them!! Gunner The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 03:56:57 -0800, Gunner
wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:01:40 -0500, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote: On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote: But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote But I HATE doing drywall! Then use a .22. You can do the drywall with a couple dabs of patch. ..22 LR HP through the eye socket leaves a large brain-splatter, too, doesn't it? It's a good thing 5gal buckets of primer are cheap. -- There is nothing more frightening than ignorance in action. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
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Gunner on Sat, 22 Dec 2012 03:56:57 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:01:40 -0500, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote: On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote: But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote But I HATE doing drywall! What so hard about "doin' drywall"? Put it in the back of the truck , take it for a little ride, hit it with a hammer and lay it out on the road.turn around and drive back. No problem! Then use a .22. You can do the drywall with a couple dabs of patch. Wait, what? Oh, I'm sorry, youse guys was talking about fixing dry wall, not doin' it in. Oi, is my face red. pyotr -- pyotr Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb. |
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On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 07:29:10 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 03:56:57 -0800, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:01:40 -0500, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote: On 12/18/2012 7:28 PM, Gunner wrote: But if all one has is wasp spray..its better than nothing. As for me...a couple loads of #4 buck gets my vote But I HATE doing drywall! Then use a .22. You can do the drywall with a couple dabs of patch. .22 LR HP through the eye socket leaves a large brain-splatter, too, doesn't it? It's a good thing 5gal buckets of primer are cheap. Shucks at house ranges, anywhere square on the skull will get an entry and the slug tends to simply bounce around inside the skull and not exit. He might bleed on your carpet, but even that would be a trickle Simply stick a plastic garbage bag over his head before calling the cops. Gunner The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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