We bought two Chevy Kodiak dump trucks, with large stainless salt
spreaders, from CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). Both trucks are
equipped with Caterpillar 3116 diesels, snow plow mounts, hydraulic
PTO, and stainless hydraulic salt spreaders.

Three things sweeten this deal:

*) The stainless salt spreaders will probably pay for the purchase
*) They have almost brand new Bridgestone 11R22.5 truck tires, same as
our semi tractor, where the tires are very worn
*) One truck has 9,998 miles (true) and the other has a little under
15,000 miles. I believe this, because they belonged to CTA and they
would not mess with odometers.

We have no idea whether they can even run.

The trucks, though, are not without problems. They clearly sat around
for years. The biggest problem is that there is a lot of rust on the
main belt pulleys. So much rust that I am afraid to even try to run
these engines, as the rust may shred the rubber belts.

Is there any "easy" trick to clean that rust on the pulleys off,
without taking the engine out?

i

Ignoramus26227 wrote:

We bought two Chevy Kodiak dump trucks, with large stainless salt
spreaders, from CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). Both trucks are
equipped with Caterpillar 3116 diesels, snow plow mounts, hydraulic
PTO, and stainless hydraulic salt spreaders.

Three things sweeten this deal:

*) The stainless salt spreaders will probably pay for the purchase
*) They have almost brand new Bridgestone 11R22.5 truck tires, same as
our semi tractor, where the tires are very worn
*) One truck has 9,998 miles (true) and the other has a little under
15,000 miles. I believe this, because they belonged to CTA and they
would not mess with odometers.

We have no idea whether they can even run.

The trucks, though, are not without problems. They clearly sat around
for years. The biggest problem is that there is a lot of rust on the
main belt pulleys. So much rust that I am afraid to even try to run
these engines, as the rust may shred the rubber belts.

Is there any "easy" trick to clean that rust on the pulleys off,
without taking the engine out?

i

I don't think there is an "easy" way. I suspect that a small right angle
air die grinder with a wire wheel would to the job with the belts
removed. Good deal on the tires, that will save a few bucks and keep the
DOT folks off you back in any inspections.

On 2012-12-11, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus26227 wrote:

We bought two Chevy Kodiak dump trucks, with large stainless salt
spreaders, from CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). Both trucks are
equipped with Caterpillar 3116 diesels, snow plow mounts, hydraulic
PTO, and stainless hydraulic salt spreaders.

Three things sweeten this deal:

*) The stainless salt spreaders will probably pay for the purchase
*) They have almost brand new Bridgestone 11R22.5 truck tires, same as
our semi tractor, where the tires are very worn
*) One truck has 9,998 miles (true) and the other has a little under
15,000 miles. I believe this, because they belonged to CTA and they
would not mess with odometers.

We have no idea whether they can even run.

The trucks, though, are not without problems. They clearly sat around
for years. The biggest problem is that there is a lot of rust on the
main belt pulleys. So much rust that I am afraid to even try to run
these engines, as the rust may shred the rubber belts.

Is there any "easy" trick to clean that rust on the pulleys off,
without taking the engine out?

i

I don't think there is an "easy" way. I suspect that a small right angle
air die grinder with a wire wheel would to the job with the belts
removed. Good deal on the tires, that will save a few bucks and keep the
DOT folks off you back in any inspections.

Yes, plus these tires will last a long time.

i

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:40:06 -0600, Ignoramus26227
wrote:

We bought two Chevy Kodiak dump trucks, with large stainless salt
spreaders, from CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). Both trucks are
equipped with Caterpillar 3116 diesels, snow plow mounts, hydraulic
PTO, and stainless hydraulic salt spreaders.

Three things sweeten this deal:

*) The stainless salt spreaders will probably pay for the purchase
*) They have almost brand new Bridgestone 11R22.5 truck tires, same as
our semi tractor, where the tires are very worn
*) One truck has 9,998 miles (true) and the other has a little under
15,000 miles. I believe this, because they belonged to CTA and they
would not mess with odometers.

Cool, 'cept for them being Chebbies. I'm a Ford and IH man.


We have no idea whether they can even run.

Not cool.


The trucks, though, are not without problems. They clearly sat around
for years. The biggest problem is that there is a lot of rust on the
main belt pulleys. So much rust that I am afraid to even try to run
these engines, as the rust may shred the rubber belts.

Is there any "easy" trick to clean that rust on the pulleys off,
without taking the engine out?

A straight wire brush will remove the worst of it (about 80%) in a few
minutes. (Well, it does in all the dry climates I've lived in, and up
here in So. OR. I guess I have no idea about wet, salty climates like
yours. blink of realization)

Brush, blow off, crank the engine a hair, repeat. The rest will rub
off in a few minutes of running.

--
A human being must have occupation if he or
she is not to become a nuisance to the world.
-- Dorothy L. Sayers

We need to find -jobs- for our CONgresscritters!
-- Larry Jaques

On 12/10/2012 9:40 PM, Ignoramus26227 wrote:
....

The trucks, though, are not without problems. They clearly sat around
for years. The biggest problem is that there is a lot of rust on the
main belt pulleys. So much rust that I am afraid to even try to run
these engines, as the rust may shred the rubber belts.

Is there any "easy" trick to clean that rust on the pulleys off,
without taking the engine out?

I'd seriously doubt the rust will cause any problems whatever and
certainly not enough to damage/ruin a belt unless it's almost gone,
anyway...it's more likely if these haven't run in years that the belts
will have deteriorated on their own, anyway. (Although I just cranked
up the old ensilage blower w/ it's matched set of three last summer
after it had sat in the open for probably 25 yr and while they lost some
wedges, they ran long enough to let me run a few loads of straw bales
thru it to break them up for lawn straw reseed cover... ) But they'd
never serve under real load and it's likely yours won't either if try to
actually put trucks in service but will probably survive long enough for
proof-of-purpose demo's...

Blow and brush off what you can if you think you must, but I'd just give
'em a go...

As others noted along w/ you, the tires alone are probably worth the
deal--good score!

--

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:40:06 -0600, Ignoramus26227
wrote:

We bought two Chevy Kodiak dump trucks, with large stainless salt
spreaders, from CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). Both trucks are
equipped with Caterpillar 3116 diesels, snow plow mounts, hydraulic
PTO, and stainless hydraulic salt spreaders.

Three things sweeten this deal:

*) The stainless salt spreaders will probably pay for the purchase
*) They have almost brand new Bridgestone 11R22.5 truck tires, same as
our semi tractor, where the tires are very worn
*) One truck has 9,998 miles (true) and the other has a little under
15,000 miles. I believe this, because they belonged to CTA and they
would not mess with odometers.

We have no idea whether they can even run.

The trucks, though, are not without problems. They clearly sat around
for years. The biggest problem is that there is a lot of rust on the
main belt pulleys. So much rust that I am afraid to even try to run
these engines, as the rust may shred the rubber belts.

Is there any "easy" trick to clean that rust on the pulleys off,
without taking the engine out?

i
Take the belts off and use a twisted/knotted wire brush on the
grooves = preferably with the engine turning. It is not the safest
thing to do - but it is likely the most effective.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:57:29 -0600, dpb wrote:

On 12/10/2012 9:40 PM, Ignoramus26227 wrote:
...

The trucks, though, are not without problems. They clearly sat around
for years. The biggest problem is that there is a lot of rust on the
main belt pulleys. So much rust that I am afraid to even try to run
these engines, as the rust may shred the rubber belts.

Is there any "easy" trick to clean that rust on the pulleys off,
without taking the engine out?

I'd seriously doubt the rust will cause any problems whatever and
certainly not enough to damage/ruin a belt unless it's almost gone,
anyway...it's more likely if these haven't run in years that the belts
will have deteriorated on their own, anyway. (Although I just cranked
up the old ensilage blower w/ it's matched set of three last summer
after it had sat in the open for probably 25 yr and while they lost some
wedges, they ran long enough to let me run a few loads of straw bales
thru it to break them up for lawn straw reseed cover... ) But they'd
never serve under real load and it's likely yours won't either if try to
actually put trucks in service but will probably survive long enough for
proof-of-purpose demo's...

Blow and brush off what you can if you think you must, but I'd just give
'em a go...

As others noted along w/ you, the tires alone are probably worth the
deal--good score!
A set of really rusty pulleys can totally destroy a belt in a matter
of seconds - or minutes if you are lucky. At the very minimum you
want to remove the belt and SCRAPE the pulleys

On 12/11/2012 11:59 AM, wrote:
....

A set of really rusty pulleys can totally destroy a belt in a matter
of seconds - or minutes if you are lucky. At the very minimum you
want to remove the belt and SCRAPE the pulleys

Sorry, don't believe it...

--

wrote in message ...
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:40:06 -0600, Ignoramus26227
wrote:

We bought two Chevy Kodiak dump trucks, with large stainless salt
spreaders, from CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). Both trucks are
equipped with Caterpillar 3116 diesels, snow plow mounts, hydraulic
PTO, and stainless hydraulic salt spreaders.

Three things sweeten this deal:

*) The stainless salt spreaders will probably pay for the purchase
*) They have almost brand new Bridgestone 11R22.5 truck tires, same as
our semi tractor, where the tires are very worn
*) One truck has 9,998 miles (true) and the other has a little under
15,000 miles. I believe this, because they belonged to CTA and they
would not mess with odometers.

We have no idea whether they can even run.

The trucks, though, are not without problems. They clearly sat around
for years. The biggest problem is that there is a lot of rust on the
main belt pulleys. So much rust that I am afraid to even try to run
these engines, as the rust may shred the rubber belts.

Is there any "easy" trick to clean that rust on the pulleys off,
without taking the engine out?

i
Take the belts off and use a twisted/knotted wire brush on the
grooves = preferably with the engine turning. It is not the safest
thing to do - but it is likely the most effective.

I probably would just replace with new belts; rusty pulleys probably won't really hurt anything...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7a0_1257885585

--

There are chemical means to remove rust, but would probably require an
extended soak, meaning they'd have to be removed. Would also leave
pits which would tear up the belts. Best bet is remove the belts, see
what can be done with wire brushes and/or abrasive cloth. Would leave
a smoother surface.

If the engines sat that long, I'd be worried that the cylinder(s) with
open valves would have the rings rusted to the cylinder walls. Have
seen that happen with old tractors sitting out. With gas engines, one
solution for that is to pull plugs and run some penetrant and/or oil
into the cylinders, then try barring the engine over by hand. Kind of
hard to pull a spark plug on a diesel, though.

Stan

dpb wrote:
On 12/11/2012 11:59 AM, wrote:
...

A set of really rusty pulleys can totally destroy a belt in a matter
of seconds - or minutes if you are lucky. At the very minimum you
want to remove the belt and SCRAPE the pulleys

Sorry, don't believe it...

--


I've seen it happen a LOT. Take that snow blower that you used last year
and let the nice clean pulleys rust up.
You WILL be buying at least two belts before the rust wears down enough
to not destroy them.

Even worse on a vehicle that has seen salt. The damn pits are like
taking a grinding wheel to the belts.

--
Steve W.

On 12/11/2012 2:40 PM, Steve W. wrote:
dpb wrote:
On 12/11/2012 11:59 AM, wrote:
...

A set of really rusty pulleys can totally destroy a belt in a matter
of seconds - or minutes if you are lucky. At the very minimum you
want to remove the belt and SCRAPE the pulleys

Sorry, don't believe it...

--


I've seen it happen a LOT. Take that snow blower that you used last year
and let the nice clean pulleys rust up.
You WILL be buying at least two belts before the rust wears down enough
to not destroy them.

Even worse on a vehicle that has seen salt. The damn pits are like
taking a grinding wheel to the belts.

Never been an issue I've ever seen on farm equipment that sits
outside...and been around for nearly 70 yr now and some of the equipment
is 50+...

If it is so pitted it's chewing the belts up it's not the rust it's the
actual pulley and simply removing the rust isn't going to solve the problem.

--

Ignoramus26227 wrote:
We bought two Chevy Kodiak dump trucks, with large stainless salt
spreaders, from CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). Both trucks are
equipped with Caterpillar 3116 diesels, snow plow mounts, hydraulic
PTO, and stainless hydraulic salt spreaders.

Three things sweeten this deal:

*) The stainless salt spreaders will probably pay for the purchase
*) They have almost brand new Bridgestone 11R22.5 truck tires, same as
our semi tractor, where the tires are very worn
*) One truck has 9,998 miles (true) and the other has a little under
15,000 miles. I believe this, because they belonged to CTA and they
would not mess with odometers.

We have no idea whether they can even run.

The trucks, though, are not without problems. They clearly sat around
for years. The biggest problem is that there is a lot of rust on the
main belt pulleys. So much rust that I am afraid to even try to run
these engines, as the rust may shred the rubber belts.

Is there any "easy" trick to clean that rust on the pulleys off,
without taking the engine out?

i


Being in a salt/rust area myself I can say there isn't a real easy way
BUT...

You can take an angle grinder with a wire wheel and get the worst of it
off. This also takes the burr off the edges of the rust pits and that
helps some more.
IF you can take the pulleys off this is a LOT easier and you can take
them into a blast cabinet, then paint them.

I get to do this quite a lot with snow equipment that has sat around for
a year or so. Stuff that has ever seen salt will REALLY rot quick, even
those stainless bodies come apart rather quickly with salt.

--
Steve W.

OK, one of these trucks works, starts and runs.

i

On 2012-12-11, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:40:06 -0600, Ignoramus26227
wrote:

We bought two Chevy Kodiak dump trucks, with large stainless salt
spreaders, from CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). Both trucks are
equipped with Caterpillar 3116 diesels, snow plow mounts, hydraulic
PTO, and stainless hydraulic salt spreaders.

Three things sweeten this deal:

*) The stainless salt spreaders will probably pay for the purchase
*) They have almost brand new Bridgestone 11R22.5 truck tires, same as
our semi tractor, where the tires are very worn
*) One truck has 9,998 miles (true) and the other has a little under
15,000 miles. I believe this, because they belonged to CTA and they
would not mess with odometers.

Cool, 'cept for them being Chebbies. I'm a Ford and IH man.


We have no idea whether they can even run.

Not cool.


The trucks, though, are not without problems. They clearly sat around
for years. The biggest problem is that there is a lot of rust on the
main belt pulleys. So much rust that I am afraid to even try to run
these engines, as the rust may shred the rubber belts.

Is there any "easy" trick to clean that rust on the pulleys off,
without taking the engine out?

A straight wire brush will remove the worst of it (about 80%) in a few
minutes. (Well, it does in all the dry climates I've lived in, and up
here in So. OR. I guess I have no idea about wet, salty climates like
yours. blink of realization)

Brush, blow off, crank the engine a hair, repeat. The rest will rub
off in a few minutes of running.


We need to find -jobs- for our CONgresscritters!
-- Larry Jaques

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:34:59 -0600, dpb wrote:

On 12/11/2012 11:59 AM, wrote:
...

A set of really rusty pulleys can totally destroy a belt in a matter
of seconds - or minutes if you are lucky. At the very minimum you
want to remove the belt and SCRAPE the pulleys

Sorry, don't believe it...
Sorry, you don't have to believe something for it to be true. I have
had badly rusted pulleys throw off belts several times - and in most
cases they are totally unuseable by the time they come off.

I have worked on construction and farm equipment as well as
automobiles and other miscalaneous equipment since the sixties..

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:49:04 -0800, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:


wrote in message ...
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:40:06 -0600, Ignoramus26227
wrote:

We bought two Chevy Kodiak dump trucks, with large stainless salt
spreaders, from CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). Both trucks are
equipped with Caterpillar 3116 diesels, snow plow mounts, hydraulic
PTO, and stainless hydraulic salt spreaders.

Three things sweeten this deal:

*) The stainless salt spreaders will probably pay for the purchase
*) They have almost brand new Bridgestone 11R22.5 truck tires, same as
our semi tractor, where the tires are very worn
*) One truck has 9,998 miles (true) and the other has a little under
15,000 miles. I believe this, because they belonged to CTA and they
would not mess with odometers.

We have no idea whether they can even run.

The trucks, though, are not without problems. They clearly sat around
for years. The biggest problem is that there is a lot of rust on the
main belt pulleys. So much rust that I am afraid to even try to run
these engines, as the rust may shred the rubber belts.

Is there any "easy" trick to clean that rust on the pulleys off,
without taking the engine out?

i
Take the belts off and use a twisted/knotted wire brush on the
grooves = preferably with the engine turning. It is not the safest
thing to do - but it is likely the most effective.

I probably would just replace with new belts; rusty pulleys probably won't really hurt anything...

Depends on HOW rusty. Just a film of rust? No problem. But if there is
a block of rusty scale over 1/8" built up between the belt and the
pully, the belt will come off just about as quick as that guy with the
VW. - and not in as good shape.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7a0_1257885585

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:50:04 -0800 (PST), Stanley Schaefer
wrote:

There are chemical means to remove rust, but would probably require an
extended soak, meaning they'd have to be removed. Would also leave
pits which would tear up the belts. Best bet is remove the belts, see
what can be done with wire brushes and/or abrasive cloth. Would leave
a smoother surface.

The pits won't be a serious problem

If the engines sat that long, I'd be worried that the cylinder(s) with
open valves would have the rings rusted to the cylinder walls. Have
seen that happen with old tractors sitting out. With gas engines, one
solution for that is to pull plugs and run some penetrant and/or oil
into the cylinders, then try barring the engine over by hand. Kind of
hard to pull a spark plug on a diesel, though.

Pull the injectors or (on some engines) the glow plugs. As long as
the complete intake system was still installed there is a good chance
they will still be OK. If the intake snorkel is off or damaged, or the
filter is damaged or removed, all bets are off. It COULD have a mouse
nest in the cyl - as well as all the rust mouse-**** causes.

Stan

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:53:47 -0600, Ignoramus19474
wrote:

OK, one of these trucks works, starts and runs.


Does it run well? Or simply "runs"?


i

On 2012-12-11, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:40:06 -0600, Ignoramus26227
wrote:

We bought two Chevy Kodiak dump trucks, with large stainless salt
spreaders, from CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). Both trucks are
equipped with Caterpillar 3116 diesels, snow plow mounts, hydraulic
PTO, and stainless hydraulic salt spreaders.

Three things sweeten this deal:

*) The stainless salt spreaders will probably pay for the purchase
*) They have almost brand new Bridgestone 11R22.5 truck tires, same as
our semi tractor, where the tires are very worn
*) One truck has 9,998 miles (true) and the other has a little under
15,000 miles. I believe this, because they belonged to CTA and they
would not mess with odometers.

Cool, 'cept for them being Chebbies. I'm a Ford and IH man.


We have no idea whether they can even run.

Not cool.


The trucks, though, are not without problems. They clearly sat around
for years. The biggest problem is that there is a lot of rust on the
main belt pulleys. So much rust that I am afraid to even try to run
these engines, as the rust may shred the rubber belts.

Is there any "easy" trick to clean that rust on the pulleys off,
without taking the engine out?

A straight wire brush will remove the worst of it (about 80%) in a few
minutes. (Well, it does in all the dry climates I've lived in, and up
here in So. OR. I guess I have no idea about wet, salty climates like
yours. blink of realization)

Brush, blow off, crank the engine a hair, repeat. The rest will rub
off in a few minutes of running.


We need to find -jobs- for our CONgresscritters!
-- Larry Jaques

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On 2012-12-11, Gunner wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:53:47 -0600, Ignoramus19474
wrote:

OK, one of these trucks works, starts and runs.


Does it run well? Or simply "runs"?

We started it, never drove anywhere, and one of the hoses started
leaking trans fluid, so we shut it off.

i


i

On 2012-12-11, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:40:06 -0600, Ignoramus26227
wrote:

We bought two Chevy Kodiak dump trucks, with large stainless salt
spreaders, from CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). Both trucks are
equipped with Caterpillar 3116 diesels, snow plow mounts, hydraulic
PTO, and stainless hydraulic salt spreaders.

Three things sweeten this deal:

*) The stainless salt spreaders will probably pay for the purchase
*) They have almost brand new Bridgestone 11R22.5 truck tires, same as
our semi tractor, where the tires are very worn
*) One truck has 9,998 miles (true) and the other has a little under
15,000 miles. I believe this, because they belonged to CTA and they
would not mess with odometers.

Cool, 'cept for them being Chebbies. I'm a Ford and IH man.


We have no idea whether they can even run.

Not cool.


The trucks, though, are not without problems. They clearly sat around
for years. The biggest problem is that there is a lot of rust on the
main belt pulleys. So much rust that I am afraid to even try to run
these engines, as the rust may shred the rubber belts.

Is there any "easy" trick to clean that rust on the pulleys off,
without taking the engine out?

A straight wire brush will remove the worst of it (about 80%) in a few
minutes. (Well, it does in all the dry climates I've lived in, and up
here in So. OR. I guess I have no idea about wet, salty climates like
yours. blink of realization)

Brush, blow off, crank the engine a hair, repeat. The rest will rub
off in a few minutes of running.


We need to find -jobs- for our CONgresscritters!
-- Larry Jaques

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:53:26 -0600, Ignoramus19474
wrote:

On 2012-12-11, Gunner wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:53:47 -0600, Ignoramus19474
wrote:

OK, one of these trucks works, starts and runs.


Does it run well? Or simply "runs"?

We started it, never drove anywhere, and one of the hoses started
leaking trans fluid, so we shut it off.

No loping, no non-diesel rattling, no clunks, bangs, thumping sounds
etc etc?

The hose is a minor issue.

Gunner


i


i

On 2012-12-11, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:40:06 -0600, Ignoramus26227
wrote:

We bought two Chevy Kodiak dump trucks, with large stainless salt
spreaders, from CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). Both trucks are
equipped with Caterpillar 3116 diesels, snow plow mounts, hydraulic
PTO, and stainless hydraulic salt spreaders.

Three things sweeten this deal:

*) The stainless salt spreaders will probably pay for the purchase
*) They have almost brand new Bridgestone 11R22.5 truck tires, same as
our semi tractor, where the tires are very worn
*) One truck has 9,998 miles (true) and the other has a little under
15,000 miles. I believe this, because they belonged to CTA and they
would not mess with odometers.

Cool, 'cept for them being Chebbies. I'm a Ford and IH man.


We have no idea whether they can even run.

Not cool.


The trucks, though, are not without problems. They clearly sat around
for years. The biggest problem is that there is a lot of rust on the
main belt pulleys. So much rust that I am afraid to even try to run
these engines, as the rust may shred the rubber belts.

Is there any "easy" trick to clean that rust on the pulleys off,
without taking the engine out?

A straight wire brush will remove the worst of it (about 80%) in a few
minutes. (Well, it does in all the dry climates I've lived in, and up
here in So. OR. I guess I have no idea about wet, salty climates like
yours. blink of realization)

Brush, blow off, crank the engine a hair, repeat. The rest will rub
off in a few minutes of running.


We need to find -jobs- for our CONgresscritters!
-- Larry Jaques

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On 2012-12-12, Gunner wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:53:26 -0600, Ignoramus19474
wrote:

On 2012-12-11, Gunner wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:53:47 -0600, Ignoramus19474
wrote:

OK, one of these trucks works, starts and runs.


Does it run well? Or simply "runs"?

We started it, never drove anywhere, and one of the hoses started
leaking trans fluid, so we shut it off.

No loping, no non-diesel rattling, no clunks, bangs, thumping sounds
etc etc?

The hose is a minor issue.

It sounded very nicely. I agree that the hose is minor, but there are
probably several rotted hoses.

i

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:40:19 -0500, "Steve W."
wrote:

dpb wrote:
On 12/11/2012 11:59 AM, wrote:
...

A set of really rusty pulleys can totally destroy a belt in a matter
of seconds - or minutes if you are lucky. At the very minimum you
want to remove the belt and SCRAPE the pulleys

Sorry, don't believe it...

--


I've seen it happen a LOT. Take that snow blower that you used last year
and let the nice clean pulleys rust up.
You WILL be buying at least two belts before the rust wears down enough
to not destroy them.

Even worse on a vehicle that has seen salt. The damn pits are like
taking a grinding wheel to the belts.
My snow blower is stored outside year round. I had to replace the
belts after only 23 years.
---

Gerry :-)}
London,Canada

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:00:30 -0600, Ignoramus19474
wrote:

On 2012-12-12, Gunner wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:53:26 -0600, Ignoramus19474
wrote:

On 2012-12-11, Gunner wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:53:47 -0600, Ignoramus19474
wrote:

OK, one of these trucks works, starts and runs.


Does it run well? Or simply "runs"?

We started it, never drove anywhere, and one of the hoses started
leaking trans fluid, so we shut it off.

No loping, no non-diesel rattling, no clunks, bangs, thumping sounds
etc etc?

The hose is a minor issue.

It sounded very nicely. I agree that the hose is minor, but there are
probably several rotted hoses.

i
If it was used to spread salt..count on it. And they may look fine.
So the only way to tell is to grab them and bend them several times.

Hoses however are cheap maint.

Sounds like you did ok.

And the other one?


Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

The hose is a minor issue.

However, it was a snowplow....so expect major rust damage.
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