On 12/5/2012 12:08 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

If I want plumbing, I go to a plumbing supply house....

If I want lumber, I go to a lumberyard....

If I want hardware, I go to a hardware store...
....

If you want plumbing and lumber and hardware, you go to 3 places? Bob

"Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message
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On 12/5/2012 12:08 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
If I want plumbing, I go to a plumbing supply house....
If I want lumber, I go to a lumberyard....
If I want hardware, I go to a hardware store...

If you want plumbing and lumber and hardware, you go to 3 places?
Bob

When I worked down your way I went to O'Connors for everything.
jsw

Bob Engelhardt wrote:

On 12/5/2012 12:08 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

If I want plumbing, I go to a plumbing supply house....

If I want lumber, I go to a lumberyard....

If I want hardware, I go to a hardware store...
...

If you want plumbing and lumber and hardware, you go to 3 places? Bob

Generally, yes. While on the surface it may seem like extra effort, the
reality is that by going to the three specific places you will 1. find
everything you need, 2. find higher quality products 3. get better
customer service.

"Pete C." wrote:

Bob Engelhardt wrote:

On 12/5/2012 12:08 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

If I want plumbing, I go to a plumbing supply house....

If I want lumber, I go to a lumberyard....

If I want hardware, I go to a hardware store...
...

If you want plumbing and lumber and hardware, you go to 3 places? Bob

Generally, yes. While on the surface it may seem like extra effort, the
reality is that by going to the three specific places you will 1. find
everything you need, 2. find higher quality products 3. get better
customer service.


By that logic, you should deal directly with every manufacturer.

"Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message
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On 12/5/2012 12:08 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

If I want plumbing, I go to a plumbing supply house....

If I want lumber, I go to a lumberyard....

If I want hardware, I go to a hardware store...
...

If you want plumbing and lumber and hardware, you go to 3 places? Bob

Yes.

"Pete C." wrote in message
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Bob Engelhardt wrote:

On 12/5/2012 12:08 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

If I want plumbing, I go to a plumbing supply house....

If I want lumber, I go to a lumberyard....

If I want hardware, I go to a hardware store...
...

If you want plumbing and lumber and hardware, you go to 3 places? Bob

Generally, yes. While on the surface it may seem like extra effort, the
reality is that by going to the three specific places you will 1. find
everything you need, 2. find higher quality products 3. get better
customer service.

Mostly it's the customer service.

Which means not having to walk a mile and a half trying to find something.

And being able to drive right up to the lumber rack and having someone else
load it for me certainly doesn't hurt matters either.

On 12/5/2012 9:03 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
When I worked down your way I went to O'Connors for everything.

O'Connors is great - I pay a little more there in the hope that it will
help them be there forever.

Bob

On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:16:25 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


Bob Engelhardt wrote:

On 12/5/2012 12:08 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

If I want plumbing, I go to a plumbing supply house....

If I want lumber, I go to a lumberyard....

If I want hardware, I go to a hardware store...
...

If you want plumbing and lumber and hardware, you go to 3 places? Bob

Generally, yes. While on the surface it may seem like extra effort, the
reality is that by going to the three specific places you will 1. find
everything you need, 2. find higher quality products 3. get better
customer service.

And quite often..better prices.

Fergusens is a large plumbing supply company, at least here in
California.

I can buy black or galvanized pipe and fittings at any Fergies for
1/2-2/3 the cost of HD or Lowes.

http://www.ferguson.com/locations-finder


The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

"Pete C." wrote:

Bob Engelhardt wrote:

On 12/5/2012 12:08 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

If I want plumbing, I go to a plumbing supply house....

If I want lumber, I go to a lumberyard....

If I want hardware, I go to a hardware store...
...

If you want plumbing and lumber and hardware, you go to 3 places? Bob

Generally, yes. While on the surface it may seem like extra effort, the
reality is that by going to the three specific places you will 1. find
everything you need, 2. find higher quality products 3. get better
customer service.

By that logic, you should deal directly with every manufacturer.

How do you figure that? The big box stores carry the low end of every
manufacturer's line, the stuff that will last a short while and then
send the consumer back for a replacement. The trade supply houses deal
with the upper end of the manufacturer's product line, the ones that
will last a long time and not result in unpaid callbacks after the
plumber/carpenter/electrician has installed the product.

On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:09:55 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:16:25 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


Bob Engelhardt wrote:

On 12/5/2012 12:08 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

If I want plumbing, I go to a plumbing supply house....

If I want lumber, I go to a lumberyard....

If I want hardware, I go to a hardware store...
...

If you want plumbing and lumber and hardware, you go to 3 places? Bob

Generally, yes. While on the surface it may seem like extra effort, the
reality is that by going to the three specific places you will 1. find
everything you need, 2. find higher quality products 3. get better
customer service.

And quite often..better prices.

Fergusens is a large plumbing supply company, at least here in
California.

I can buy black or galvanized pipe and fittings at any Fergies for
1/2-2/3 the cost of HD or Lowes.

http://www.ferguson.com/locations-finder

Ditto Grover for electrical and plumbing supplies here in OR.
Better pricing, higher quality, better selection. Win/Win.

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necessary that he should not only be capable
of his work, but a good judge of his work.
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On 2012-12-05, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

"Pete C." wrote:

Bob Engelhardt wrote:

On 12/5/2012 12:08 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

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If you want plumbing and lumber and hardware, you go to 3 places? Bob

Generally, yes. While on the surface it may seem like extra effort, the
reality is that by going to the three specific places you will 1. find
everything you need, 2. find higher quality products 3. get better
customer service.


By that logic, you should deal directly with every manufacturer.

If they were local, *and* if they would deal with individuals, I
might. But they want larger quantities than my individual purchases
usually involve, and I can understand that, too.

So a good store dedicated to the subset of interest (electrical
contractors, plumbing, lumber, hardware, etc) is often better than a
do-it-all-poorly place like HD. (But sometimes, I *have* to deal with
them. :-(

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"Pete C." wrote in message
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Bob Engelhardt wrote:

On 12/5/2012 12:08 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

If I want plumbing, I go to a plumbing supply house....

If I want lumber, I go to a lumberyard....

If I want hardware, I go to a hardware store...
...

If you want plumbing and lumber and hardware, you go to 3 places? Bob

Generally, yes. While on the surface it may seem like extra effort, the
reality is that by going to the three specific places you will 1. find
everything you need, 2. find higher quality products 3. get better
customer service.

Not always possible if you work for a living during the day. If I can get to
a legitimate pumbing supply I do, the prices are cheaper than HD, although
much of the stock is the same as they supply HD with most of the name brand
fixtures, burners, etc.. Taco, for example, does not make a different
circulator for HD. The bottom end faucets straight from China are a
different story.

"Michael A. Terrell" on Wed, 05 Dec 2012
10:20:21 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

"Pete C." wrote:

Bob Engelhardt wrote:

On 12/5/2012 12:08 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

If I want plumbing, I go to a plumbing supply house....

If I want lumber, I go to a lumberyard....

If I want hardware, I go to a hardware store...
...

If you want plumbing and lumber and hardware, you go to 3 places? Bob

Generally, yes. While on the surface it may seem like extra effort, the
reality is that by going to the three specific places you will 1. find
everything you need, 2. find higher quality products 3. get better
customer service.


By that logic, you should deal directly with every manufacturer.

If I was buying in rail Car lots, it might be. It might be worth
it, at that level, to just order the "case" or pallet lot from the
dealer.
On a smaller scale, I once ordered a box of padlocks, all keyed a
like, from / through a local hardware store. Saved me the hassle of
finding, ordering and waiting for the shipping, they got the "order so
much and get a discount" offer. Of course, it was a month later that
the order got placed and delivered, and by then Lloyd was trying to
remember why he ordered a box of padlocks, all keyed alike. B-)

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