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Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
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I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain factory. My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such. thanks |
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Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
Ignoramus14899 wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain factory. My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such. thanks Having a "rough work" mill available to do low precision work is nice to keep wear and tear off your good precision mill. BTW Iggy, I have a couple quick Linux related questions for you, what email can I use? |
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Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
On 2012-09-20, Pete C. wrote:
Ignoramus14899 wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain factory. My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such. thanks Having a "rough work" mill available to do low precision work is nice to keep wear and tear off your good precision mill. BTW Iggy, I have a couple quick Linux related questions for you, what email can I use? ichudov at GMAIL |
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Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
Ignoramus14899 wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain factory. My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such. Looks like one used at a local factory, to make aluminum parts for Canopies. |
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Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:57:36 -0500, Ignoramus14899
wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain factory. My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such. thanks I've heard those things were pretty capable metal movers. Tooling might be a problem. Some of the Van Normans used a non-standard taper. |
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Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
"Pete Keillor" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:57:36 -0500, Ignoramus14899 wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain factory. My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such. thanks I've heard those things were pretty capable metal movers. Tooling might be a problem. Some of the Van Normans used a non-standard taper. http://jmkasunich.com/vannorman/VN_Spindle.htm 5V tooling is expensive and hard to come by. I have a 12. But since I got my Bridgeport I don't use it that much. The Van Norman can machine more metal but the lack of a quill is inconvenient. |
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Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
"ATP" fired this volley in news:505bb326$0
: The Van Norman can machine more metal but the lack of a quill is inconvenient. OOf! That would be a killer for any real day-to-day "variety" work. That sort of machine is best suited for repeated single-operation production of parts! If it needs more than one operation, move it to the next machine in the line. --"Old Al, here, he cuts the slot between those two 1/2" bolt holes. Sam, next down the line, cuts the pocket where the pin slides." Lloyd |
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Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
On 2012-09-21, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
"ATP" fired this volley in news:505bb326$0 : The Van Norman can machine more metal but the lack of a quill is inconvenient. OOf! That would be a killer for any real day-to-day "variety" work. That sort of machine is best suited for repeated single-operation production of parts! If it needs more than one operation, move it to the next machine in the line. --"Old Al, here, he cuts the slot between those two 1/2" bolt holes. Sam, next down the line, cuts the pocket where the pin slides." Lloyd Oh, so this Van Norman needs knee moved up and down for drilling, and such??? i shocked in Illinois |
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Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
"Ignoramus14899" wrote in message ... On 2012-09-21, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: "ATP" fired this volley in news:505bb326$0 : The Van Norman can machine more metal but the lack of a quill is inconvenient. OOf! That would be a killer for any real day-to-day "variety" work. That sort of machine is best suited for repeated single-operation production of parts! If it needs more than one operation, move it to the next machine in the line. --"Old Al, here, he cuts the slot between those two 1/2" bolt holes. Sam, next down the line, cuts the pocket where the pin slides." Lloyd Oh, so this Van Norman needs knee moved up and down for drilling, and such??? i shocked in Illinois My 12 does, IIRC the 16 does as well. |
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Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:57:36 -0500, Ignoramus14899
wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain factory. My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such. thanks If I were closer to you..Id be beating a fast path to your shop for that machine. It would be a great machine for my personal shop. Gunner -- "Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry |
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Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:21:56 -0400, "ATP"
wrote: "Pete Keillor" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:57:36 -0500, Ignoramus14899 wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain factory. My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such. thanks I've heard those things were pretty capable metal movers. Tooling might be a problem. Some of the Van Normans used a non-standard taper. http://jmkasunich.com/vannorman/VN_Spindle.htm 5V tooling is expensive and hard to come by. I have a 12. But since I got my Bridgeport I don't use it that much. The Van Norman can machine more metal but the lack of a quill is inconvenient. I purchased and used a #36 for the past 4 yrs in the side business I had going, and recently sold it to a buddy, who finds it to be an absolutely marvelous machine for metal removal...capable of working in small tenths. As the 3 axis Sony dro shows. Dont ever consider them to be nothing more than a rough metal remover. Unless they are absolutely worn out (mine wasnt..Cal State Irvine)....they are very capable machines Gunner -- "Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry |
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Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
On 2012-09-23, Gunner wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:57:36 -0500, Ignoramus14899 wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain factory. My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such. thanks If I were closer to you..Id be beating a fast path to your shop for that machine. It would be a great machine for my personal shop. You are reading my thoughts. We will keep the Van Norman, and will sell the Bridgeport that was behind it on the photograph. i |
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Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 22:36:09 -0500, Ignoramus29359
wrote: On 2012-09-23, Gunner wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:57:36 -0500, Ignoramus14899 wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain factory. My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such. thanks If I were closer to you..Id be beating a fast path to your shop for that machine. It would be a great machine for my personal shop. You are reading my thoughts. We will keep the Van Norman, and will sell the Bridgeport that was behind it on the photograph. i The BP looks like a "fixer upper", while the VN could certainly use a run through with a high pressure sprayer. Be SURE to check ALL the fluids in that VN before setting it up. Head, knee, lubers and so forth. And putting a 3 axis DRO on it would be a very good thing. Get a clapped out BP with a DRO..and simply install it on the VN Gunner -- "Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry |
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