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Ignoramus14899 September 20th 12 04:57 PM

Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
 
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain
factory.

My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a
general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such.

thanks

Pete C. September 20th 12 06:22 PM

Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
 

Ignoramus14899 wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain
factory.

My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a
general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such.

thanks


Having a "rough work" mill available to do low precision work is nice to
keep wear and tear off your good precision mill.

BTW Iggy, I have a couple quick Linux related questions for you, what
email can I use?

Ignoramus14899 September 20th 12 06:31 PM

Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
 
On 2012-09-20, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus14899 wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain
factory.

My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a
general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such.

thanks


Having a "rough work" mill available to do low precision work is nice to
keep wear and tear off your good precision mill.

BTW Iggy, I have a couple quick Linux related questions for you, what
email can I use?


ichudov
at
GMAIL

Michael A. Terrell September 20th 12 06:43 PM

Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
 

Ignoramus14899 wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain
factory.

My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a
general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such.



Looks like one used at a local factory, to make aluminum parts for
Canopies.

Pete Keillor[_2_] September 21st 12 12:10 AM

Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
 
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:57:36 -0500, Ignoramus14899
wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain
factory.

My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a
general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such.

thanks


I've heard those things were pretty capable metal movers. Tooling
might be a problem. Some of the Van Normans used a non-standard
taper.

ATP September 21st 12 01:21 AM

Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
 

"Pete Keillor" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:57:36 -0500, Ignoramus14899
wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain
factory.

My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a
general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such.

thanks


I've heard those things were pretty capable metal movers. Tooling
might be a problem. Some of the Van Normans used a non-standard
taper.


http://jmkasunich.com/vannorman/VN_Spindle.htm

5V tooling is expensive and hard to come by.

I have a 12. But since I got my Bridgeport I don't use it that much. The Van
Norman can machine more metal but the lack of a quill is inconvenient.



Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] September 21st 12 01:30 AM

Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
 
"ATP" fired this volley in news:505bb326$0
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The Van
Norman can machine more metal but the lack of a quill is inconvenient.


OOf! That would be a killer for any real day-to-day "variety" work.
That sort of machine is best suited for repeated single-operation
production of parts!

If it needs more than one operation, move it to the next machine in the
line.

--"Old Al, here, he cuts the slot between those two 1/2" bolt holes. Sam,
next down the line, cuts the pocket where the pin slides."

Lloyd

Ignoramus14899 September 21st 12 02:53 AM

Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
 
On 2012-09-21, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
"ATP" fired this volley in news:505bb326$0
:

The Van
Norman can machine more metal but the lack of a quill is inconvenient.


OOf! That would be a killer for any real day-to-day "variety" work.
That sort of machine is best suited for repeated single-operation
production of parts!

If it needs more than one operation, move it to the next machine in the
line.

--"Old Al, here, he cuts the slot between those two 1/2" bolt holes. Sam,
next down the line, cuts the pocket where the pin slides."

Lloyd


Oh, so this Van Norman needs knee moved up and down for drilling, and such???

i
shocked in Illinois

ATP September 21st 12 10:42 PM

Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
 

"Ignoramus14899" wrote in message
...
On 2012-09-21, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
"ATP" fired this volley in news:505bb326$0
:

The Van
Norman can machine more metal but the lack of a quill is inconvenient.


OOf! That would be a killer for any real day-to-day "variety" work.
That sort of machine is best suited for repeated single-operation
production of parts!

If it needs more than one operation, move it to the next machine in the
line.

--"Old Al, here, he cuts the slot between those two 1/2" bolt holes. Sam,
next down the line, cuts the pocket where the pin slides."

Lloyd


Oh, so this Van Norman needs knee moved up and down for drilling, and
such???

i
shocked in Illinois


My 12 does, IIRC the 16 does as well.



Gunner[_7_] September 23rd 12 04:28 AM

Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
 
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:57:36 -0500, Ignoramus14899
wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain
factory.

My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a
general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such.

thanks


If I were closer to you..Id be beating a fast path to your shop for
that machine. It would be a great machine for my personal shop.

Gunner

--
"Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to
clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are
so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry

Gunner[_7_] September 23rd 12 04:32 AM

Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
 
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:21:56 -0400, "ATP"
wrote:


"Pete Keillor" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:57:36 -0500, Ignoramus14899
wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain
factory.

My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a
general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such.

thanks


I've heard those things were pretty capable metal movers. Tooling
might be a problem. Some of the Van Normans used a non-standard
taper.


http://jmkasunich.com/vannorman/VN_Spindle.htm

5V tooling is expensive and hard to come by.

I have a 12. But since I got my Bridgeport I don't use it that much. The Van
Norman can machine more metal but the lack of a quill is inconvenient.


I purchased and used a #36 for the past 4 yrs in the side business I
had going, and recently sold it to a buddy, who finds it to be an
absolutely marvelous machine for metal removal...capable of working in
small tenths. As the 3 axis Sony dro shows.

Dont ever consider them to be nothing more than a rough metal remover.
Unless they are absolutely worn out (mine wasnt..Cal State
Irvine)....they are very capable machines

Gunner

--
"Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to
clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are
so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry

Ignoramus29359 September 23rd 12 04:36 AM

Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
 
On 2012-09-23, Gunner wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:57:36 -0500, Ignoramus14899
wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain
factory.

My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a
general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such.

thanks


If I were closer to you..Id be beating a fast path to your shop for
that machine. It would be a great machine for my personal shop.


You are reading my thoughts. We will keep the Van Norman, and will
sell the Bridgeport that was behind it on the photograph.

i

Gunner[_7_] September 23rd 12 06:17 AM

Van Norman No. 16 universal milling machine
 
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 22:36:09 -0500, Ignoramus29359
wrote:

On 2012-09-23, Gunner wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:57:36 -0500, Ignoramus14899
wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

I got this along with approx. 14 tons of other stuff at a certain
factory.

My question is what do you guys think about this milling machine as a
general shop mill. for fixing broken stuff and such.

thanks


If I were closer to you..Id be beating a fast path to your shop for
that machine. It would be a great machine for my personal shop.


You are reading my thoughts. We will keep the Van Norman, and will
sell the Bridgeport that was behind it on the photograph.

i



The BP looks like a "fixer upper", while the VN could certainly use a
run through with a high pressure sprayer.

Be SURE to check ALL the fluids in that VN before setting it up. Head,
knee, lubers and so forth.

And putting a 3 axis DRO on it would be a very good thing. Get a
clapped out BP with a DRO..and simply install it on the VN


Gunner

--
"Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to
clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are
so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry


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