I want to make some L shaped attachments to secure fish hooks to so that
they point upwards, hooking the fish in the roof of the mouth. Lead head
jigs do very well for this, and they make it easy to take the hook out and
release the fish so that it survives. I also want to make some T shaped
standoffs for crappie hooks that will keep the hook away from the downline
and tangling.

What do you think would work? Piano wire? Guitar strings? Just go get a
couple and try it? Is there any special name or type of VERY thin rods that
keep their springiness, yet allow bending? What is the smallest SS Tig rod
available?

BTW, a friend of mine's Dad was the one who invented and patented the
rotating bass hook. He was from Oklahoma. But danged if I can pull his
name out of my grey matter. The hooks were known for years by his name,
"(insert his real name here) hooks", and Eagle Claw used the term for years
after they got the patent, and the name became generic to the twisting bass
hook that would hook up with more bass. I think she still gets royalty
checks.

Steve

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The hooks were known for years by his name,
"(insert his real name here) hooks"

Was that the Kahle hook? It has a weighted cylinder on the hook shank.

Lloyd

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The hooks were known for years by his name,
"(insert his real name here) hooks"

Nah... not Kahle, I don't think. Not all have that weight. Their primary
feature is an offset curve that causes the hook to spin when being set.

LLoyd

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The hooks were known for years by his name,
"(insert his real name here) hooks"

Was that the Kahle hook? It has a weighted cylinder on the hook shank.

Lloyd

I thought of it. Messler.

Steve

"Steve B" wrote in message
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I want to make some L shaped attachments to secure fish hooks to so that
they point upwards, hooking the fish in the roof of the mouth.

For what type of fishing? I like wide flat plastics like Curly Buzz Frogs,
and Ribbed Flipping Grubs because the plastic helps orient the hook.

Lead head jigs do very well for this, and they make it easy to take the
hook out and release the fish so that it survives. I also want to make
some T shaped standoffs for crappie hooks that will keep the hook away
from the downline and tangling.

What do you think would work? Piano wire? Guitar strings? Just go get a
couple and try it? Is there any special name or type of VERY thin rods
that keep their springiness, yet allow bending? What is the smallest SS
Tig rod available?

The crappie spreaders are made with stainless steel spring wire. My uncle
and I used to twist them up on the spot as needed when fishing rock piles
for perch out from Marblehead. You can order it anysize you want. You may
even be able to buy it at craft stores.


BTW, a friend of mine's Dad was the one who invented and patented the
rotating bass hook. He was from Oklahoma.

Which one?
Excalibur by Heddon? Tru-Turn by TTI? Cam Action by Eagle Claw?

But danged if I can pull his name out of my grey matter. The hooks were
known for years by his name, "(insert his real name here) hooks", and
Eagle Claw used the term for years after they got the patent, and the name
became generic to the twisting bass hook that would hook up with more
bass. I think she still gets royalty checks.

The Cam Action hook came out before the Tru-Turn? Really? I'll have to ask
TJ or Ron over at TTI about that.

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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"Steve B" wrote in message
...
I want to make some L shaped attachments to secure fish hooks to so that
they point upwards, hooking the fish in the roof of the mouth.

For what type of fishing? I like wide flat plastics like Curly Buzz
Frogs, and Ribbed Flipping Grubs because the plastic helps orient the
hook.

Lead head jigs do very well for this, and they make it easy to take the
hook out and release the fish so that it survives. I also want to make
some T shaped standoffs for crappie hooks that will keep the hook away
from the downline and tangling.

What do you think would work? Piano wire? Guitar strings? Just go get
a couple and try it? Is there any special name or type of VERY thin rods
that keep their springiness, yet allow bending? What is the smallest SS
Tig rod available?

The crappie spreaders are made with stainless steel spring wire. My uncle
and I used to twist them up on the spot as needed when fishing rock piles
for perch out from Marblehead. You can order it anysize you want. You
may even be able to buy it at craft stores.


BTW, a friend of mine's Dad was the one who invented and patented the
rotating bass hook. He was from Oklahoma.

Which one?
Excalibur by Heddon? Tru-Turn by TTI? Cam Action by Eagle Claw?

But danged if I can pull his name out of my grey matter. The hooks were
known for years by his name, "(insert his real name here) hooks", and
Eagle Claw used the term for years after they got the patent, and the
name became generic to the twisting bass hook that would hook up with
more bass. I think she still gets royalty checks.

The Cam Action hook came out before the Tru-Turn? Really? I'll have to
ask TJ or Ron over at TTI about that.

This was the original Messler. IIRC, he patented it in the 50's. She had
kept the local newspaper articles about it. They were sold as "Messler
Hooks" for a long time by Eagle Claw because the name was generic to that
type of twisting action hook. I'm 99.9% sure it was Messler. I'll do some
googling, or just call my friend and verify it. It wasn't her married name,
and her dad had long since died, so that is the reason for the fuzzy memory.

Steve

"Bob La Londe" wrote


The crappie spreaders are made with stainless steel spring wire. My uncle
and I used to twist them up on the spot as needed when fishing rock piles
for perch out from Marblehead. You can order it anysize you want. You
may even be able to buy it at craft stores.
of my grey matter. The hooks were

Have googled several sources of the wire in 36" lengths. What diameter
would that be? It starts with .005", and goes to .100". It is for fishing
crappie, and large bluegill. Our state record for bluegill is 2 # 7 oz.
These, I am sure are a few different species, but they are lumped together
under "bluegill."
Black crappie is 3 # 5 oz.

The purpose of the special rigging is so we can toss back the littler ones
without inflicting too much damage from unhooking them. It looks bad if the
ranger comes up, and there's several dead and dying fish floating around
your boat. Almost makes you look like you're using dynamite.

Steve

Steve B wrote:
I want to make some L shaped attachments to secure fish hooks to so that
they point upwards, hooking the fish in the roof of the mouth. Lead head
jigs do very well for this, and they make it easy to take the hook out and
release the fish so that it survives. I also want to make some T shaped
standoffs for crappie hooks that will keep the hook away from the downline
and tangling.

What do you think would work? Piano wire? Guitar strings? Just go get a
couple and try it? Is there any special name or type of VERY thin rods that
keep their springiness, yet allow bending? What is the smallest SS Tig rod
available?

BTW, a friend of mine's Dad was the one who invented and patented the
rotating bass hook. He was from Oklahoma. But danged if I can pull his
name out of my grey matter. The hooks were known for years by his name,
"(insert his real name here) hooks", and Eagle Claw used the term for years
after they got the patent, and the name became generic to the twisting bass
hook that would hook up with more bass. I think she still gets royalty
checks.

Steve




How fancy do you want to get?

Hit http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/lure-making-parts/ and you will find
what you need to make anything you like.
Wire, premade and DIY stuff.

You would be foolish to make the lears though. They sell for less than
the wire and labor to make them.
http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/do-it-w...ms/310333.aspx

I make my own spinner baits, jigs, crappie harnesses and more.

--
Steve W.

Steve B wrote:
"Bob La Londe" wrote

The crappie spreaders are made with stainless steel spring wire. My uncle
and I used to twist them up on the spot as needed when fishing rock piles
for perch out from Marblehead. You can order it anysize you want. You
may even be able to buy it at craft stores.
of my grey matter. The hooks were

Have googled several sources of the wire in 36" lengths. What diameter
would that be? It starts with .005", and goes to .100". It is for fishing
crappie, and large bluegill. Our state record for bluegill is 2 # 7 oz.
These, I am sure are a few different species, but they are lumped together
under "bluegill."
Black crappie is 3 # 5 oz.

The purpose of the special rigging is so we can toss back the littler ones
without inflicting too much damage from unhooking them. It looks bad if the
ranger comes up, and there's several dead and dying fish floating around
your boat. Almost makes you look like you're using dynamite.

Steve



There gills, Most of them are a PIA, although I do use the smaller ones
as bait at times.....


So what's wrong with using dynamite !!!! At least they can't say you
were targeting a particular species!


--
Steve W.

"Steve B" wrote in message
...

"Bob La Londe" wrote


The crappie spreaders are made with stainless steel spring wire. My
uncle and I used to twist them up on the spot as needed when fishing rock
piles for perch out from Marblehead. You can order it anysize you want.
You may even be able to buy it at craft stores.
of my grey matter. The hooks were

Have googled several sources of the wire in 36" lengths. What diameter
would that be? It starts with .005", and goes to .100". It is for
fishing crappie, and large bluegill. Our state record for bluegill is 2 #
7 oz. These, I am sure are a few different species, but they are lumped
together under "bluegill."
Black crappie is 3 # 5 oz.

The purpose of the special rigging is so we can toss back the littler ones
without inflicting too much damage from unhooking them. It looks bad if
the ranger comes up, and there's several dead and dying fish floating
around your boat. Almost makes you look like you're using dynamite.

Steve


I do a little pan fishing. Around here hand size plus gills are not to
uncommon and I get into redear around a pound fairly regularly. Heck, the
world record redear was just caught up river from me.

I just drop shot a #8 bait holder hook with a 1.5" curly grub I make myself
threaded onto the hook. I know what you mean about getting the little ones
off without killing them. Not much beats a pair of small size hemostats for
that though. The small ones (sometimes called arterial clamps) used to be
found at the swap meets for $1-3 each. Just reach in, get a grip on the
hook, and turn it out. I prefer 6 pound test because the occasional 3-4
pound bass will come along and scarf down that tidbit. If I can keep them
out of the tulies I have a chance of landing them on that. Most of the guys
I know who just target the pans use 4lb test though.

Not sure what state you are in, but some states consider a regular dropshot
rig a snagging rig, so you have to use a leader from the main line to the
hook. A trick I have used for getting a little more action that might meet
that same requirement is to tie a fairly large dropper loop in the main line
then do a loop through to attach the hook. This gets the hook off the main
line directly and should meet local requirements, but of course ask your
local DNR or DFG officer to make sure.

As to the spreaders. We just used hose to connect snelled hooks with a
minnow on each one for perch fishing. The spreaders if rigged properly kept
the minnows from getting all tangled up, and reduced line twist from them
swimming around in circles. There are a couple different types.

"Steve W." wrote
Hit http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/lure-making-parts/ and you will find what
you need to make anything you like.
Wire, premade and DIY stuff.

You would be foolish to make the lears though. They sell for less than the
wire and labor to make them.
http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/do-it-w...ms/310333.aspx

I make my own spinner baits, jigs, crappie harnesses and more.

--
Steve W.

On the second site, in the cost box, what do the 1 and 5 mean right above
the words 10 pack? I guess I'm missing something, probably obvious. These
look like they would do just fine.

Steve

Steve B wrote:
"Steve W." wrote
Hit http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/lure-making-parts/ and you will find what
you need to make anything you like.
Wire, premade and DIY stuff.

You would be foolish to make the lears though. They sell for less than the
wire and labor to make them.
http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/do-it-w...ms/310333.aspx

I make my own spinner baits, jigs, crappie harnesses and more.

--
Steve W.

On the second site, in the cost box, what do the 1 and 5 mean right above
the words 10 pack? I guess I'm missing something, probably obvious. These
look like they would do just fine.

Steve



1 = 1 pack of 10 = 10 lears
5 = 5 packs of 10 = 50 lears

I buy a lot of stuff from them and from

http://lurepartsonline.com/


--
Steve W.

"Steve W." wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
"Steve W." wrote
Hit http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/lure-making-parts/ and you will find
what you need to make anything you like.
Wire, premade and DIY stuff.

You would be foolish to make the lears though. They sell for less than
the wire and labor to make them.
http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/do-it-w...ms/310333.aspx

I make my own spinner baits, jigs, crappie harnesses and more.

--
Steve W.

On the second site, in the cost box, what do the 1 and 5 mean right above
the words 10 pack? I guess I'm missing something, probably obvious.
These look like they would do just fine.

Steve

1 = 1 pack of 10 = 10 lears
5 = 5 packs of 10 = 50 lears

I buy a lot of stuff from them and from

http://lurepartsonline.com/


--
Steve W.

OK. Got it. That sounds like a pretty good price to me. 50 would last me
a while.

Steve