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Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you
Jesus Christ and the American GI
One died for your soul, the other for your freedom
You might want to pass this on ... as many seem to forget both of
them.

Fortunately, the U.S. military forces actually exist.. providing the
freedom, foreign and domestic, to those who wish to believe in religious
entities.

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WB
..........


"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
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Lifted from rec.aviation.military:

Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you
Jesus Christ and the American GI
One died for your soul, the other for your freedom
You might want to pass this on ... as many seem to forget both of them.

Jim Wilkins wrote:
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Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you
Jesus Christ and the _American_ [my emphasis] GI
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A bit chauvinistic , isn't it? Pretty much every country's soldier was
willing to die for his country. At least to the same extent that the
American one was. And it's easy to exaggerate how much that was.
Rather than "Yes, I'll _die_ for my country!" it was more likely "What
the **** am I doing here?".

On 7/5/2012 3:52 PM, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
Jim Wilkins wrote:
Lifted from rec.aviation.military:

Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you
Jesus Christ and the _American_ [my emphasis] GI
...

A bit chauvinistic , isn't it? Pretty much every country's soldier was
willing to die for his country. At least to the same extent that the
American one was. And it's easy to exaggerate how much that was. Rather
than "Yes, I'll _die_ for my country!" it was more likely "What the ****
am I doing here?".

No soldier ever died for his country. Soldiers die for what the
political leadership of the country claims to be in the national
interest. There is no such thing as "national interest"; only
individual organic entities can have interests. Each tree in a forest
has some biological interest in surviving, but the forest has no such
interest; the forest is nothing but the abstract name we give to a
collection of living trees.

Seldom, if ever, does the supposed national interest coincide with the
individual interests of a majority of citizens, let alone all of them.

On Thursday, July 5, 2012 6:52:54 PM UTC-4, Bob Engelhardt wrote:

A bit chauvinistic , isn't it? Pretty much every country's soldier was
willing to die for his country. At least to the same extent that the
American one was. And it's easy to exaggerate how much that was.
Rather than "Yes, I'll _die_ for my country!" it was more likely "What
the **** am I doing here?".

I was in the Navy, so maybe my thoughts don't count. But I was never willing to die for my country. At best I wanted the enemy to die for his country.

Dan

On 7/5/2012 9:09 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, July 5, 2012 6:52:54 PM UTC-4, Bob Engelhardt wrote:

A bit chauvinistic , isn't it? Pretty much every country's soldier was
willing to die for his country. At least to the same extent that the
American one was. And it's easy to exaggerate how much that was.
Rather than "Yes, I'll _die_ for my country!" it was more likely "What
the **** am I doing here?".

I was in the Navy, so maybe my thoughts don't count. But I was never willing to die for my country. At best I wanted the enemy to die for his country.

Dan


I am reminded of a quote attributed to Gen. G.S.Patton. It was "you
don't win wars by dying for your country, you win wars by making the
other poor dumb son of a bitch die for his"