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What would it cost to buy machines to make one's own pressed on crimp fit
hydraulic, and, water hoses. That would be just for the crimper, and I'd like a hydraulic one. Any brands? Steve |
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On 2012-04-14, Steve B wrote:
What would it cost to buy machines to make one's own pressed on crimp fit hydraulic, and, water hoses. That would be just for the crimper, and I'd like a hydraulic one. Any brands? Unless you try to look hard for a super bargain, plan on spending about $1,500 on a used Parker unit. i |
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Steve B wrote:
What would it cost to buy machines to make one's own pressed on crimp fit hydraulic, and, water hoses. That would be just for the crimper, and I'd like a hydraulic one. Any brands? Steve If it was only for a few and you had a workshop hydraulic press you could make some dies and use them in it. |
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On Apr 14, 12:04*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
What would it cost to buy machines to make one's own pressed on crimp fit hydraulic, and, water hoses. *That would be just for the crimper, and I'd like a hydraulic one. *Any brands? Steve I have seen manual units using big machine screws to do the crimping, not sure of the crimp quality. I wouldn't depend on them for like aircraft stuff or brakes. They are out there and if a guy had some milling or shaping equipment, wouldn't be too hard to duplicate. Basically two slabs of steel bolted together and with suitable notches cut out for the crimp areas. Unless you're going to go into full production, NAPA or truck and implement supply joints can make them up cheaper for onesie-twosie stuff. Parker is the big name in hoses, fitttings and the like, check their website for the real deal. Stan |
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On 2012-04-17, Stanley Schaefer wrote:
On Apr 14, 12:04*pm, "Steve B" wrote: What would it cost to buy machines to make one's own pressed on crimp fit hydraulic, and, water hoses. *That would be just for the crimper, and I'd like a hydraulic one. *Any brands? Steve I have seen manual units using big machine screws to do the crimping, not sure of the crimp quality. I wouldn't depend on them for like aircraft stuff or brakes. They are out there and if a guy had some milling or shaping equipment, wouldn't be too hard to duplicate. Basically two slabs of steel bolted together and with suitable notches cut out for the crimp areas. Unless you're going to go into full production, NAPA or truck and implement supply joints can make them up cheaper for onesie-twosie stuff. Parker is the big name in hoses, fitttings and the like, check their website for the real deal. I used to stumble across hydraulic hose crimpers all the time when looking for hydraulic electrical crimping heads. Here is one at least on eBay. 160782987379 But it ain't cheap. Good Luck, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On 2012-04-18, DoN. Nichols wrote:
On 2012-04-17, Stanley Schaefer wrote: On Apr 14, 12:04?pm, "Steve B" wrote: What would it cost to buy machines to make one's own pressed on crimp fit hydraulic, and, water hoses. ?That would be just for the crimper, and I'd like a hydraulic one. ?Any brands? Steve I have seen manual units using big machine screws to do the crimping, not sure of the crimp quality. I wouldn't depend on them for like aircraft stuff or brakes. They are out there and if a guy had some milling or shaping equipment, wouldn't be too hard to duplicate. Basically two slabs of steel bolted together and with suitable notches cut out for the crimp areas. Unless you're going to go into full production, NAPA or truck and implement supply joints can make them up cheaper for onesie-twosie stuff. Parker is the big name in hoses, fitttings and the like, check their website for the real deal. I used to stumble across hydraulic hose crimpers all the time when looking for hydraulic electrical crimping heads. Here is one at least on eBay. 160782987379 But it ain't cheap. Good Luck, DoN. We have a Parker store across the rail tracks, they make all that stuff for us. i |
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On 2012-04-18, DoN. Nichols wrote:
On 2012-04-17, Stanley Schaefer wrote: On Apr 14, 12:04?pm, "Steve B" wrote: What would it cost to buy machines to make one's own pressed on crimp fit hydraulic, and, water hoses. ?That would be just for the crimper, and I'd like a hydraulic one. ?Any brands? Steve I have seen manual units using big machine screws to do the crimping, not sure of the crimp quality. I wouldn't depend on them for like aircraft stuff or brakes. They are out there and if a guy had some milling or shaping equipment, wouldn't be too hard to duplicate. Basically two slabs of steel bolted together and with suitable notches cut out for the crimp areas. Unless you're going to go into full production, NAPA or truck and implement supply joints can make them up cheaper for onesie-twosie stuff. Parker is the big name in hoses, fitttings and the like, check their website for the real deal. I used to stumble across hydraulic hose crimpers all the time when looking for hydraulic electrical crimping heads. Here is one at least on eBay. 160782987379 But it ain't cheap. The fittings in onesies or twosies are not cheap either, especially with shipping. I would find a good hydraulics store nearby and patronize it, personally. i |
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"Ignoramus32264" wrote in message The fittings in onesies or twosies are not cheap either, especially with shipping. I would find a good hydraulics store nearby and patronize it, personally. i There are reuseable fittings that would let you make hoses long and shorten them after you have used the home-made machine enough to establish the right hose routing. http://www.discounthydraulichose.com...tings_s/75.htm I'm told they are OK but haven't tried them. I used the premade hoses from Northern and Parker store mistakes and put up with the excess length. The Parker store clerk said the Northern hoses had the same fittings he would have installed. In the Northeast this company has good prices and selection: http://www.omniservices.com/default..../locations.htm jsw |
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 07:38:33 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Ignoramus32264" wrote in message The fittings in onesies or twosies are not cheap either, especially with shipping. I would find a good hydraulics store nearby and patronize it, personally. i There are reuseable fittings that would let you make hoses long and shorten them after you have used the home-made machine enough to establish the right hose routing. http://www.discounthydraulichose.com...tings_s/75.htm I'm told they are OK but haven't tried them. I used the premade hoses from Northern and Parker store mistakes and put up with the excess length. The Parker store clerk said the Northern hoses had the same fittings he would have installed. In the Northeast this company has good prices and selection: http://www.omniservices.com/default..../locations.htm jsw When I worked at a lumbermill I made up too many hydraulic hoses to count using the thread on fittings. None of them failed. They were well designed and simple to use. However, for the ones we used at least, if they weren't threaded in straight they would sometimes cut a little piece of rubber out of the inside of the hose. This little piece of rubber then gets stuck downstream in something important. Eric |
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 21:42:10 -0500, Ignoramus32264
wrote: On 2012-04-18, DoN. Nichols wrote: On 2012-04-17, Stanley Schaefer wrote: On Apr 14, 12:04?pm, "Steve B" wrote: What would it cost to buy machines to make one's own pressed on crimp fit hydraulic, and, water hoses. ?That would be just for the crimper, and I'd like a hydraulic one. ?Any brands? Steve I have seen manual units using big machine screws to do the crimping, not sure of the crimp quality. I wouldn't depend on them for like aircraft stuff or brakes. They are out there and if a guy had some milling or shaping equipment, wouldn't be too hard to duplicate. Basically two slabs of steel bolted together and with suitable notches cut out for the crimp areas. Unless you're going to go into full production, NAPA or truck and implement supply joints can make them up cheaper for onesie-twosie stuff. Parker is the big name in hoses, fitttings and the like, check their website for the real deal. I used to stumble across hydraulic hose crimpers all the time when looking for hydraulic electrical crimping heads. Here is one at least on eBay. 160782987379 But it ain't cheap. The fittings in onesies or twosies are not cheap either, especially with shipping. I would find a good hydraulics store nearby and patronize it, personally. Back in the body shop days, we'd always use the local NAPA store. Prices were about 60% of the local hydraulics shop or auto dealership, too. There's even one here in sleepy little GP. -- You can either hold yourself up to the unrealistic standards of others, or ignore them and concentrate on being happy with yourself as you are. -- Jeph Jacques |
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