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round die sizes: D2? D-what???
On a bicycle forum somebody asked now to cut spoke threads, which are
#2-56. A quick Google search turns up this die on Amazon, sold by Smallparts. The die manufacturer is not given- http://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-Pro.../dp/B000FMYH8Y Note that the description says {"#2-56 Round Adjustable Three Pronged Carbon Steel Threading Die, 7/32"" Die Diameter"} what is that (7/32" die diameter) business in there??? Is that an error in the description, or is there dies with that small of an OD? A #2 screw is about .086", and 7/32" is a lot larger than that.... but not a whole lot larger, I am thinking. ?:| I know you can get tiny die sizes in 3/4" / 19mm, but I am wondering if this dinky size really exists. The smallest round die stock that Smallparts sells is a Union Butterfield that is designated as a "D2" size.... but I can't find anyplace that tells what the "D" sizes of these stocks are? |
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round die sizes: D2? D-what???
DougC wrote:
On a bicycle forum somebody asked now to cut spoke threads, which are #2-56. A quick Google search turns up this die on Amazon, sold by Smallparts. The die manufacturer is not given- http://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-Pro.../dp/B000FMYH8Y Note that the description says {"#2-56 Round Adjustable Three Pronged Carbon Steel Threading Die, 7/32"" Die Diameter"} what is that (7/32" die diameter) business in there??? Is that an error in the description, or is there dies with that small of an OD? A #2 screw is about .086", and 7/32" is a lot larger than that.... but not a whole lot larger, I am thinking. ?:| I know you can get tiny die sizes in 3/4" / 19mm, but I am wondering if this dinky size really exists. The smallest round die stock that Smallparts sells is a Union Butterfield that is designated as a "D2" size.... but I can't find anyplace that tells what the "D" sizes of these stocks are? I thought spoke threads are usually thread rolled as they are highly stressed. Looking at a typical spoke will show that the thread is larger than the spoke diameter itself. See http://www.amazon.com/HOZAN-Hozan-Sp...4380363&sr=8-1 |
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round die sizes: D2? D-what???
People and fractions.. that description probably looks correct to the person
who wrote it.. 7/32"" WTF is in/in? I haven't a clue wrt D-sizes. As David points out, spoke threads are commonly rolled, and I wouldn't want to be riding a bike which had the threads die cut. -- WB .......... "DougC" wrote in message ... On a bicycle forum somebody asked now to cut spoke threads, which are #2-56. A quick Google search turns up this die on Amazon, sold by Smallparts. The die manufacturer is not given- http://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-Pro.../dp/B000FMYH8Y Note that the description says {"#2-56 Round Adjustable Three Pronged Carbon Steel Threading Die, 7/32"" Die Diameter"} what is that (7/32" die diameter) business in there??? Is that an error in the description, or is there dies with that small of an OD? A #2 screw is about .086", and 7/32" is a lot larger than that.... but not a whole lot larger, I am thinking. ?:| I know you can get tiny die sizes in 3/4" / 19mm, but I am wondering if this dinky size really exists. The smallest round die stock that Smallparts sells is a Union Butterfield that is designated as a "D2" size.... but I can't find anyplace that tells what the "D" sizes of these stocks are? |
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round die sizes: D2? D-what???
On 2011-12-20, DougC wrote:
On a bicycle forum somebody asked now to cut spoke threads, which are #2-56. A quick Google search turns up this die on Amazon, sold by Smallparts. The die manufacturer is not given- http://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-Pro.../dp/B000FMYH8Y *Not* what you want for something as hardened as a bicycle spoke. There are special tools for rolling the thread -- which displaces material from the root of the thread to the crest -- to make up for the fact that the diameter of the spoke is too small to otherwise make a full depth 2-56 thread. Note that the description says {"#2-56 Round Adjustable Three Pronged Carbon Steel Threading Die, 7/32"" Die Diameter"} what is that (7/32" die diameter) business in there??? Is that an error in the description, or is there dies with that small of an OD? A #2 screw is about .086", and 7/32" is a lot larger than that.... but not a whole lot larger, I am thinking. ?:| That looks too small even for the thickness of the die. I know you can get tiny die sizes in 3/4" / 19mm, but I am wondering if this dinky size really exists. Well -- assuming that the image is truly it (which it is not, since it says "10-24" in the face of the die), and working from the diameter of the #2 screw (your 0.086"), and it looks like the diameter of the die is about 6X the diameter of the thread. So if it were truly a photo of the 2-56, it would come out about 0.516" diameter (probably 1/2" is close enough, or maybe the 3/4"). A 10-24 would be 0.190" diameter, so the die would be about 1.140" -- more likely the 1" diameter. So -- unless you want to get The smallest round die stock that Smallparts sells is a Union Butterfield that is designated as a "D2" size.... but I can't find anyplace that tells what the "D" sizes of these stocks are? Don't worry -- you don't want those. Look for thread rolling dies for the spoke threading. Good Luck, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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