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A day at the auction
Went to preview the auction today.
What I saw reminds me of what I forgot. What employees can do to your "stuff". In all, there were a few pearls in the piles of shells, and we'll see how it goes tomorrow. Most everything was thoroughly used and abused. I only saw one new tool, a DeWalt planer. A nice Dayton band saw, which we have marked to watch. There was a ****load of stuff. All well worn. They musta seen it coming, and just run everything into the ground. I'm very glad that we went early. We dug and identified where our treasure was, came home, found out prices, and have a marked list on just the things we're going after. For the guys who didn't go today, they won't know. There were about 12 3.5 ton NAPA floor jacks. We tried every one, and four don't work. We know which four. There is also one that is a race jack, going all the way up in 3 pumps. It's one of the last, and we hope by then, they're selling cheap or two-fer. But we'll watch as guys buy dead jacks ............. We also met two professional buyers, one a trailer manufacturer from Arizona who gave us a heads up. My friend is looking for axles. The guy told us that he will offer a lump sum for all, allowed by this auctioneer. He also agreed to sell my friend the two or three he needs for cash. I imagine he might be selling a few right after the auction if the guys can get ahold of him quick. But at least we know who the guy is. We wouldn't have if we hadn't gone today. He said that the big fish are not interested one whit in the hand tools, so that should be good pickins unless the stupid locals bid stuff up. We asked about auctions nationwide, and he said everything's just about gone from the Midwest, business-wise. The welding stuff was C-R-A-P! I forgot just how much employees can mess stuff up. All the Vise Grip clamps have something welded on, or the jaw tips burnt off. All the regulators put up with the T handles cranked down, needles stuck here and there. Everything looked like it had been in a hammer fight. One Lincoln Precision TIG 275 that looks clean. It looks like everyone MIGged, and only a few stick or TIG welded. Two frickin HUGE pallets of air hoses, connectors and all, probably 1,000 feet each of 50 and 100' pieces. Too bad I'd have to buy so many, but if the price is right ........... I could do my shop, and sell the rest. Two nice clean Lincoln IdealArc 250s that are mounted high that are real clean. I guess they didn't do a lot of stick. Interested in what about 1,000# of E70S-6 .035 wire is going to sell for, and about eight 4" x 6" x 36" boxes of aluminum TIG rods will go for. There were many trailers in stages of production. The welds were visible. Man, how can anyone weld MIG so bad? I can teach a monkey to do it in less than an hour. For a quality name trailer, there's a lot of stuff under the skin. I have researched all prices of the items we want to bid on, and those of just things we find curious so that as it goes, we can know how the bidders are doing. I have a 17 page list of 1329 lots that I am going to try to keep track of what sells for what to get a feel for this. Tomorrow is the auction. It is supposed to be a clear sunny calm day here. Been blowing forty forever. This is a major company with four plants nationwide. Things are getting rocky. Steve |
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On Dec 19, 4:38*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
Went to preview the auction today. What I saw reminds me of what I forgot. *What employees can do to your "stuff". In all, there were a few pearls in the piles of shells, and we'll see how it goes tomorrow. Most everything was thoroughly used and abused. *I only saw one new tool, a DeWalt planer. *A nice Dayton band saw, which we have marked to watch. There was a ****load of stuff. *All well worn. *They musta seen it coming, and just run everything into the ground. I'm very glad that we went early. *We dug and identified where our treasure was, came home, found out prices, and have a marked list on just the things we're going after. *For the guys who didn't go today, they won't know. There were about 12 3.5 ton NAPA floor jacks. *We tried every one, and four don't work. *We know which four. *There is also one that is a race jack, going all the way up in 3 pumps. *It's one of the last, and we hope by then, they're selling cheap or two-fer. *But we'll watch as guys buy dead jacks ............ We also met two professional buyers, one a trailer manufacturer from Arizona who gave us a heads up. *My friend is looking for axles. *The guy told us that he will offer a lump sum for all, allowed by this auctioneer. *He also agreed to sell my friend the two or three he needs for cash. *I imagine he might be selling a few right after the auction if the guys can get ahold of him quick. *But at least we know who the guy is. *We wouldn't have if we hadn't gone today. *He said that the big fish are not interested one whit in the hand tools, so that should be good pickins unless the stupid locals bid stuff up. We asked about auctions nationwide, and he said everything's just about gone from the Midwest, business-wise. The welding stuff was C-R-A-P! *I forgot just how much employees can mess stuff up. *All the Vise Grip clamps have something welded on, or the jaw tips burnt off. *All the regulators put up with the T handles cranked down, needles stuck here and there. *Everything looked like it had been in a hammer fight. *One Lincoln Precision TIG 275 that looks clean. *It looks like everyone MIGged, and only a few stick or TIG welded. Two frickin HUGE pallets of air hoses, connectors and all, probably 1,000 feet each of 50 and 100' pieces. *Too bad I'd have to buy so many, but if the price is right ........... I could do my shop, and sell the rest. Two nice clean Lincoln IdealArc 250s that are mounted high that are real clean. *I guess they didn't do a lot of stick. Interested in what about 1,000# of E70S-6 .035 wire is going to sell for, and about eight 4" x 6" x 36" boxes of aluminum TIG rods will go for. There were many trailers in stages of production. *The welds were visible. Man, how can anyone weld MIG so bad? *I can teach a monkey to do it in less than an hour. *For a quality name trailer, there's a lot of stuff under the skin. I have researched all prices of the items we want to bid on, and those of just things we find curious so that as it goes, we can know how the bidders are doing. I have a 17 page list of 1329 lots that I am going to try to keep track of what sells for what to get a feel for this. Tomorrow is the auction. *It is supposed to be a clear sunny calm day here. Been blowing forty forever. This is a major company with four plants nationwide. *Things are getting rocky. Steve What with this.... "What employees can do to your "stuff"",..... " I forgot just how much employees can mess stuff up. " crap? Employees use what tools management provides them. It is quite obvious from your description that Pace Am has been riding on its name for years. And the employees have been using crap tools to do crap work...while Pace Am charged the customer everything they could. As for the welds...ever consider that a company who won't buy tools for the employees is likely paying crap wages and getting marginal labor to do the work. I have had several Pace Am trailers and have always considered them to be marginal at best for a trailer company. TMT |
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On 2011-12-19, Steve B wrote:
Went to preview the auction today. What I saw reminds me of what I forgot. What employees can do to your "stuff". In all, there were a few pearls in the piles of shells, and we'll see how it goes tomorrow. Most everything was thoroughly used and abused. I only saw one new tool, a DeWalt planer. A nice Dayton band saw, which we have marked to watch. There was a ****load of stuff. All well worn. They musta seen it coming, and just run everything into the ground. I'm very glad that we went early. We dug and identified where our treasure was, came home, found out prices, and have a marked list on just the things we're going after. For the guys who didn't go today, they won't know. There were about 12 3.5 ton NAPA floor jacks. We tried every one, and four don't work. We know which four. There is also one that is a race jack, going all the way up in 3 pumps. It's one of the last, and we hope by then, they're selling cheap or two-fer. But we'll watch as guys buy dead jacks ............ We also met two professional buyers, one a trailer manufacturer from Arizona who gave us a heads up. My friend is looking for axles. The guy told us that he will offer a lump sum for all, allowed by this auctioneer. He also agreed to sell my friend the two or three he needs for cash. I imagine he might be selling a few right after the auction if the guys can get ahold of him quick. But at least we know who the guy is. We wouldn't have if we hadn't gone today. He said that the big fish are not interested one whit in the hand tools, so that should be good pickins unless the stupid locals bid stuff up. We asked about auctions nationwide, and he said everything's just about gone from the Midwest, business-wise. The welding stuff was C-R-A-P! I forgot just how much employees can mess stuff up. All the Vise Grip clamps have something welded on, or the jaw tips burnt off. All the regulators put up with the T handles cranked down, needles stuck here and there. Everything looked like it had been in a hammer fight. One Lincoln Precision TIG 275 that looks clean. It looks like everyone MIGged, and only a few stick or TIG welded. Two frickin HUGE pallets of air hoses, connectors and all, probably 1,000 feet each of 50 and 100' pieces. Too bad I'd have to buy so many, but if the price is right ........... I could do my shop, and sell the rest. Two nice clean Lincoln IdealArc 250s that are mounted high that are real clean. I guess they didn't do a lot of stick. Interested in what about 1,000# of E70S-6 .035 wire is going to sell for, and about eight 4" x 6" x 36" boxes of aluminum TIG rods will go for. There were many trailers in stages of production. The welds were visible. Man, how can anyone weld MIG so bad? I can teach a monkey to do it in less than an hour. For a quality name trailer, there's a lot of stuff under the skin. I have researched all prices of the items we want to bid on, and those of just things we find curious so that as it goes, we can know how the bidders are doing. I have a 17 page list of 1329 lots that I am going to try to keep track of what sells for what to get a feel for this. Tomorrow is the auction. It is supposed to be a clear sunny calm day here. Been blowing forty forever. This is a major company with four plants nationwide. Things are getting rocky. Steve Steve, awesome report. Do research prices on those welders, MIG and Idealarc. With a little loving touch and a cleanup, testing and cleaning up the welding wire, you may make some good money. i |
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A day at the auction
On 2011-12-20, Ignoramus8679 wrote:
Do research prices on those welders, MIG and Idealarc. With a little loving touch and a cleanup, testing and cleaning up the welding wire, you may make some good money. I meant welding cables |
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"Ignoramus8679" wrote Steve, awesome report. Do research prices on those welders, MIG and Idealarc. With a little loving touch and a cleanup, testing and cleaning up the welding wire, you may make some good money. i God damn it, I forget it when I do that. I wrote to say that there are two 30 hp IR Horizontal Tank Mounted compressor, model SSRUP6-30-125. New is $17,000. Used, they have sold recently for $6,000 to $9750. 28,000 hours on these .............. Impressive looking guts under a nice cabinet. Doesn't look anything like a compressor. All sorts of filters and such. As I said, I have several items marked just to watch and see how they do against the average. I'll report tomorrow. Steve |
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On 2011-12-20, Steve B wrote:
"Ignoramus8679" wrote Steve, awesome report. Do research prices on those welders, MIG and Idealarc. With a little loving touch and a cleanup, testing and cleaning up the welding wire, you may make some good money. i God damn it, I forget it when I do that. I wrote to say that there are two 30 hp IR Horizontal Tank Mounted compressor, model SSRUP6-30-125. New is $17,000. Used, they have sold recently for $6,000 to $9750. 28,000 hours on these .............. Impressive looking guts under a nice cabinet. Doesn't look anything like a compressor. All sorts of filters and such. I sold two similar screw compressors before, so I made myself learn a little about it. This is just about the age when air ends need to be rebuilt. Ask someone, if you can, whether that was done or not. Let us know how it goes. i As I said, I have several items marked just to watch and see how they do against the average. I'll report tomorrow. Steve |
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On Dec 19, 4:38*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
Went to preview the auction today. What I saw reminds me of what I forgot. *What employees can do to your "stuff". In all, there were a few pearls in the piles of shells, and we'll see how it goes tomorrow. Most everything was thoroughly used and abused. *I only saw one new tool, a DeWalt planer. *A nice Dayton band saw, which we have marked to watch. There was a ****load of stuff. *All well worn. *They musta seen it coming, and just run everything into the ground. I'm very glad that we went early. *We dug and identified where our treasure was, came home, found out prices, and have a marked list on just the things we're going after. *For the guys who didn't go today, they won't know. There were about 12 3.5 ton NAPA floor jacks. *We tried every one, and four don't work. *We know which four. *There is also one that is a race jack, going all the way up in 3 pumps. *It's one of the last, and we hope by then, they're selling cheap or two-fer. *But we'll watch as guys buy dead jacks ............ We also met two professional buyers, one a trailer manufacturer from Arizona who gave us a heads up. *My friend is looking for axles. *The guy told us that he will offer a lump sum for all, allowed by this auctioneer. *He also agreed to sell my friend the two or three he needs for cash. *I imagine he might be selling a few right after the auction if the guys can get ahold of him quick. *But at least we know who the guy is. *We wouldn't have if we hadn't gone today. *He said that the big fish are not interested one whit in the hand tools, so that should be good pickins unless the stupid locals bid stuff up. We asked about auctions nationwide, and he said everything's just about gone from the Midwest, business-wise. The welding stuff was C-R-A-P! *I forgot just how much employees can mess stuff up. *All the Vise Grip clamps have something welded on, or the jaw tips burnt off. *All the regulators put up with the T handles cranked down, needles stuck here and there. *Everything looked like it had been in a hammer fight. *One Lincoln Precision TIG 275 that looks clean. *It looks like everyone MIGged, and only a few stick or TIG welded. Two frickin HUGE pallets of air hoses, connectors and all, probably 1,000 feet each of 50 and 100' pieces. *Too bad I'd have to buy so many, but if the price is right ........... I could do my shop, and sell the rest. Two nice clean Lincoln IdealArc 250s that are mounted high that are real clean. *I guess they didn't do a lot of stick. Interested in what about 1,000# of E70S-6 .035 wire is going to sell for, and about eight 4" x 6" x 36" boxes of aluminum TIG rods will go for. There were many trailers in stages of production. *The welds were visible. Man, how can anyone weld MIG so bad? *I can teach a monkey to do it in less than an hour. *For a quality name trailer, there's a lot of stuff under the skin. I have researched all prices of the items we want to bid on, and those of just things we find curious so that as it goes, we can know how the bidders are doing. I have a 17 page list of 1329 lots that I am going to try to keep track of what sells for what to get a feel for this. Tomorrow is the auction. *It is supposed to be a clear sunny calm day here. Been blowing forty forever. This is a major company with four plants nationwide. *Things are getting rocky. Steve Bet you that the locals will run the small stuff way up. TMT |
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"Ignoramus8679" wrote in message ... On 2011-12-20, Steve B wrote: "Ignoramus8679" wrote Steve, awesome report. Do research prices on those welders, MIG and Idealarc. With a little loving touch and a cleanup, testing and cleaning up the welding wire, you may make some good money. i God damn it, I forget it when I do that. I wrote to say that there are two 30 hp IR Horizontal Tank Mounted compressor, model SSRUP6-30-125. New is $17,000. Used, they have sold recently for $6,000 to $9750. 28,000 hours on these .............. Impressive looking guts under a nice cabinet. Doesn't look anything like a compressor. All sorts of filters and such. I sold two similar screw compressors before, so I made myself learn a little about it. This is just about the age when air ends need to be rebuilt. Ask someone, if you can, whether that was done or not. Let us know how it goes. i Not rebuilt. The 30 hp went for $2500. 15 hp IR $800. See my post when I put up a recap. Right now, I'm hammered. Steve |
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On 2011-12-21, Steve B wrote:
"Ignoramus8679" wrote in message ... On 2011-12-20, Steve B wrote: "Ignoramus8679" wrote Steve, awesome report. Do research prices on those welders, MIG and Idealarc. With a little loving touch and a cleanup, testing and cleaning up the welding wire, you may make some good money. i God damn it, I forget it when I do that. I wrote to say that there are two 30 hp IR Horizontal Tank Mounted compressor, model SSRUP6-30-125. New is $17,000. Used, they have sold recently for $6,000 to $9750. 28,000 hours on these .............. Impressive looking guts under a nice cabinet. Doesn't look anything like a compressor. All sorts of filters and such. I sold two similar screw compressors before, so I made myself learn a little about it. This is just about the age when air ends need to be rebuilt. Ask someone, if you can, whether that was done or not. Let us know how it goes. i Not rebuilt. The 30 hp went for $2500. 15 hp IR $800. See my post when I put up a recap. Right now, I'm hammered. Very nice. I bought two screw compressors in the past. A beautiful 25 HP Sullivan Palatek with 22k hours for $1,600 plus BP, and an ugly 50 HP Sullair with 22k hours also (conincidence) for $800. After cleaning, the Sullair was not as ugly. Awaiting your recap. i |
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