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"The Kid" scored a 60" Arps tractor snowblower at an auction today...
He wants to run it on his skid steer. Just cut off the three point, put on a hydraulic motor and mount plate. His question, which hydraulic motor? He's got 10.5 GPM at 2000PSI on the skid steer. The blower should run 500 RPM. OK, I'd do 10gpm*231 in3/gal is 2310 in3/min 2310in3/500 is 4.6in3 motor http://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.as...c&keyword=HML1 Any more to it than just getting one of the bottom three selections from surplus center? What hp will he get to the blower? I got 13hp but I'm probably doing something wrong so I won't share my work G At any rate, I'm telling him he's going to be limited on blowing power. My 72" PTO blower can bring a 60 horse tractor to its knees. Karl |
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Karl Townsend wrote:
"The Kid" scored a 60" Arps tractor snowblower at an auction today... He wants to run it on his skid steer. Just cut off the three point, put on a hydraulic motor and mount plate. His question, which hydraulic motor? He's got 10.5 GPM at 2000PSI on the skid steer. The blower should run 500 RPM. OK, I'd do 10gpm*231 in3/gal is 2310 in3/min 2310in3/500 is 4.6in3 motor http://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.as...c&keyword=HML1 Any more to it than just getting one of the bottom three selections from surplus center? What hp will he get to the blower? I got 13hp but I'm probably doing something wrong so I won't share my work G At any rate, I'm telling him he's going to be limited on blowing power. My 72" PTO blower can bring a 60 horse tractor to its knees. Karl He doesn't have enough flow really. The common 60" rigs for skid steers take closer to 20-30 gpm. Most of the ones for lower flow use twin motors, one for the auger and one for the impeller. -- Steve W. |
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![]() "Steve W." wrote: Karl Townsend wrote: "The Kid" scored a 60" Arps tractor snowblower at an auction today... He wants to run it on his skid steer. Just cut off the three point, put on a hydraulic motor and mount plate. His question, which hydraulic motor? He's got 10.5 GPM at 2000PSI on the skid steer. The blower should run 500 RPM. OK, I'd do 10gpm*231 in3/gal is 2310 in3/min 2310in3/500 is 4.6in3 motor http://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.as...c&keyword=HML1 Any more to it than just getting one of the bottom three selections from surplus center? What hp will he get to the blower? I got 13hp but I'm probably doing something wrong so I won't share my work G At any rate, I'm telling him he's going to be limited on blowing power. My 72" PTO blower can bring a 60 horse tractor to its knees. Karl He doesn't have enough flow really. The common 60" rigs for skid steers take closer to 20-30 gpm. Most of the ones for lower flow use twin motors, one for the auger and one for the impeller. -- Steve W. I would tend to agree, the skid steers I have used had an extra button for "high flow hydraulics" to handle some of the bigger attachments. Inadequate RPM on the second stage is the kiss of death for a snowblower. My thought would be to get a nice surplus diesel engine and make the attachment self powered. Some commercial attachments are like that, I recall a compact asphalt miller attachment for parking lot work that has a 24hp diesel on it and the skid steer just provides lift and movement. |
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:14:45 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote: Karl Townsend wrote: "The Kid" scored a 60" Arps tractor snowblower at an auction today... He wants to run it on his skid steer. Just cut off the three point, put on a hydraulic motor and mount plate. His question, which hydraulic motor? He's got 10.5 GPM at 2000PSI on the skid steer. The blower should run 500 RPM. OK, I'd do 10gpm*231 in3/gal is 2310 in3/min 2310in3/500 is 4.6in3 motor http://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.as...c&keyword=HML1 Any more to it than just getting one of the bottom three selections from surplus center? What hp will he get to the blower? I got 13hp but I'm probably doing something wrong so I won't share my work G At any rate, I'm telling him he's going to be limited on blowing power. My 72" PTO blower can bring a 60 horse tractor to its knees. Karl He doesn't have enough flow really. The common 60" rigs for skid steers take closer to 20-30 gpm. Most of the ones for lower flow use twin motors, one for the auger and one for the impeller. I agree, don't think his pump is big enough. I re-did the Hp. calc and got 12. Now, he's going to try this, after all, dad's not that smart. I don't see how doubling the expense by using two motors would make much difference. The question is, will 12 horses to a 60" blower be able to do anything? Or just stall? He ain't got the money to buy a tractor. Maybe I'd best loan him one this winter. (He don't like the one I loan - no cab) Karl |
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Karl Townsend wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:14:45 -0400, "Steve W." wrote: Karl Townsend wrote: "The Kid" scored a 60" Arps tractor snowblower at an auction today... He wants to run it on his skid steer. Just cut off the three point, put on a hydraulic motor and mount plate. His question, which hydraulic motor? He's got 10.5 GPM at 2000PSI on the skid steer. The blower should run 500 RPM. OK, I'd do 10gpm*231 in3/gal is 2310 in3/min 2310in3/500 is 4.6in3 motor http://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.as...c&keyword=HML1 Any more to it than just getting one of the bottom three selections from surplus center? What hp will he get to the blower? I got 13hp but I'm probably doing something wrong so I won't share my work G At any rate, I'm telling him he's going to be limited on blowing power. My 72" PTO blower can bring a 60 horse tractor to its knees. Karl He doesn't have enough flow really. The common 60" rigs for skid steers take closer to 20-30 gpm. Most of the ones for lower flow use twin motors, one for the auger and one for the impeller. I agree, don't think his pump is big enough. I re-did the Hp. calc and got 12. Now, he's going to try this, after all, dad's not that smart. I don't see how doubling the expense by using two motors would make much difference. Won't without the flow needed. The twin motor designs eliminate the gearboxes and chains used on most PTO style units and allows a bit less power to run them. The question is, will 12 horses to a 60" blower be able to do anything? Or just stall? He ain't got the money to buy a tractor. Maybe I'd best loan him one this winter. (He don't like the one I loan - no cab) I doubt it will do a lot. BUT He could add a larger pump to the skid steer. Karl -- Steve W. |
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