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Default Lincoln SA-200 Starter: repair or replace?

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:34:49 -0500, Ignoramus23509
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Pete, look at this picture.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Linc...arter-0006.jpg

The commutator looks like ****.


Understatement.

Can you say "That starter is HISTORY!"? I knew you could.

Put it back together and pray for a core allowance. They might not if
you left the endcap off.

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small detachment of black beetles, in search of a dead rat.
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Default Lincoln SA-200 Starter: repair or replace?

On 2011-03-31, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:34:49 -0500, Ignoramus23509
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Pete, look at this picture.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Linc...arter-0006.jpg

The commutator looks like ****.


Understatement.

Can you say "That starter is HISTORY!"? I knew you could.

Put it back together and pray for a core allowance. They might not if
you left the endcap off.


Well, so we have four people saying it is crap, and I agree.

I will call Napa tomorrow, if I can get what I want for $62 and they
take my old starter for core, AND I can have it on Friday, I will be
happy.

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On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:10:02 -0500, Ignoramus23509
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On 2011-03-31, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:34:49 -0500, Ignoramus23509
wrote:

Pete, look at this picture.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Linc...arter-0006.jpg

The commutator looks like ****.


Understatement.

Can you say "That starter is HISTORY!"? I knew you could.

Put it back together and pray for a core allowance. They might not if
you left the endcap off.


Well, so we have four people saying it is crap, and I agree.

I will call Napa tomorrow, if I can get what I want for $62 and they
take my old starter for core, AND I can have it on Friday, I will be
happy.


G'luck!

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You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will
preserve for our children this, the last best hope
of man on Earth, or we will sentence them to take
the last step into a thousand years of darkness.?
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On 2011-03-31, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:10:02 -0500, Ignoramus23509
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On 2011-03-31, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:34:49 -0500, Ignoramus23509
wrote:

Pete, look at this picture.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Linc...arter-0006.jpg

The commutator looks like ****.

Understatement.

Can you say "That starter is HISTORY!"? I knew you could.

Put it back together and pray for a core allowance. They might not if
you left the endcap off.


Well, so we have four people saying it is crap, and I agree.

I will call Napa tomorrow, if I can get what I want for $62 and they
take my old starter for core, AND I can have it on Friday, I will be
happy.


G'luck!


Napa has a rebuilt one for $45. It will work for me. I may even get it
tonight!

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Ignoramus3470 wrote:

On 2011-03-31, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:10:02 -0500, Ignoramus23509
wrote:

On 2011-03-31, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:34:49 -0500, Ignoramus23509
wrote:

Pete, look at this picture.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Linc...arter-0006.jpg

The commutator looks like ****.

Understatement.

Can you say "That starter is HISTORY!"? I knew you could.

Put it back together and pray for a core allowance. They might not if
you left the endcap off.


Well, so we have four people saying it is crap, and I agree.

I will call Napa tomorrow, if I can get what I want for $62 and they
take my old starter for core, AND I can have it on Friday, I will be
happy.


G'luck!


Napa has a rebuilt one for $45. It will work for me. I may even get it
tonight!

i


At $45, just go for it. If they don't want the old "core" give it a shot
at turning and rebuilding for the experience and if it works you have a
backup.


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On 2011-03-31, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:34:49 -0500, Ignoramus23509
wrote:

Pete, look at this picture.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Linc...arter-0006.jpg

The commutator looks like ****.


Understatement.

Can you say "That starter is HISTORY!"? I knew you could.

Put it back together and pray for a core allowance. They might not if
you left the endcap off.


Well, so we have four people saying it is crap, and I agree.


No, 5 ;-)
See a lot of starters on a daily basis and that one is dead.
If you will try a rebuild of that starter you will minimum need a new rotor
and a new set of brushes for it.


I will call Napa tomorrow, if I can get what I want for $62 and they
take my old starter for core, AND I can have it on Friday, I will be
happy.


For that price you might or might not be able to buy the parts I listed.
What about the bearings/bushings, gears and, and......

I know for sure what I would go for :-)


PS If you are able to get the old one working by Friday, say 10 starts I
will be amazed.

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On 2011-03-31, Uffe B?rentsen wrote:

"Ignoramus23509" skrev i en meddelelse
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On 2011-03-31, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:34:49 -0500, Ignoramus23509
wrote:

Pete, look at this picture.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Linc...arter-0006.jpg

The commutator looks like ****.

Understatement.

Can you say "That starter is HISTORY!"? I knew you could.

Put it back together and pray for a core allowance. They might not if
you left the endcap off.


Well, so we have four people saying it is crap, and I agree.


No, 5 ;-)
See a lot of starters on a daily basis and that one is dead.
If you will try a rebuild of that starter you will minimum need a new rotor
and a new set of brushes for it.


I will call Napa tomorrow, if I can get what I want for $62 and they
take my old starter for core, AND I can have it on Friday, I will be
happy.


For that price you might or might not be able to buy the parts I listed.
What about the bearings/bushings, gears and, and......

I know for sure what I would go for :-)


PS If you are able to get the old one working by Friday, say 10 starts I
will be amazed.


So you would also get that rebuild at Napa, right?
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:17:22 -0500, Ignoramus3470
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On 2011-03-31, Uffe B?rentsen wrote:

"Ignoramus23509" skrev i en meddelelse
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On 2011-03-31, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:34:49 -0500, Ignoramus23509
wrote:

Pete, look at this picture.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Linc...arter-0006.jpg

The commutator looks like ****.

Understatement.

Can you say "That starter is HISTORY!"? I knew you could.

Put it back together and pray for a core allowance. They might not if
you left the endcap off.


Well, so we have four people saying it is crap, and I agree.


No, 5 ;-)
See a lot of starters on a daily basis and that one is dead.
If you will try a rebuild of that starter you will minimum need a new rotor
and a new set of brushes for it.


I will call Napa tomorrow, if I can get what I want for $62 and they
take my old starter for core, AND I can have it on Friday, I will be
happy.


For that price you might or might not be able to buy the parts I listed.
What about the bearings/bushings, gears and, and......

I know for sure what I would go for :-)


PS If you are able to get the old one working by Friday, say 10 starts I
will be amazed.


So you would also get that rebuild at Napa, right?


Absolutely. Good price, honorable vendor, immediate access. What's to
think about. Just Do It!

--
You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will
preserve for our children this, the last best hope
of man on Earth, or we will sentence them to take
the last step into a thousand years of darkness.?
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On 2011-03-31, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:17:22 -0500, Ignoramus3470
wrote:

On 2011-03-31, Uffe B?rentsen wrote:

"Ignoramus23509" skrev i en meddelelse
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On 2011-03-31, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:34:49 -0500, Ignoramus23509
wrote:

Pete, look at this picture.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Linc...arter-0006.jpg

The commutator looks like ****.

Understatement.

Can you say "That starter is HISTORY!"? I knew you could.

Put it back together and pray for a core allowance. They might not if
you left the endcap off.


Well, so we have four people saying it is crap, and I agree.

No, 5 ;-)
See a lot of starters on a daily basis and that one is dead.
If you will try a rebuild of that starter you will minimum need a new rotor
and a new set of brushes for it.


I will call Napa tomorrow, if I can get what I want for $62 and they
take my old starter for core, AND I can have it on Friday, I will be
happy.

For that price you might or might not be able to buy the parts I listed.
What about the bearings/bushings, gears and, and......

I know for sure what I would go for :-)


PS If you are able to get the old one working by Friday, say 10 starts I
will be amazed.


So you would also get that rebuild at Napa, right?


Absolutely. Good price, honorable vendor, immediate access. What's to
think about. Just Do It!


Yep. I might even get the starter today, and work on the welder this
weekend!

My next question is the carb. Since fuel was so gummed up in the bowl,
it is probably gummed up in the carb? SShould I just take it off and
clean?

What sort of solvent works best for this?

i

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On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:17:22 -0500, Ignoramus3470
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On 2011-03-31, Uffe B?rentsen wrote:

"Ignoramus23509" skrev i en meddelelse
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On 2011-03-31, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:34:49 -0500, Ignoramus23509
wrote:

Pete, look at this picture.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Linc...arter-0006.jpg

The commutator looks like ****.

Understatement.

Can you say "That starter is HISTORY!"? I knew you could.

Put it back together and pray for a core allowance. They might not if
you left the endcap off.


Well, so we have four people saying it is crap, and I agree.


No, 5 ;-)
See a lot of starters on a daily basis and that one is dead.
If you will try a rebuild of that starter you will minimum need a new rotor
and a new set of brushes for it.


I will call Napa tomorrow, if I can get what I want for $62 and they
take my old starter for core, AND I can have it on Friday, I will be
happy.


For that price you might or might not be able to buy the parts I listed.
What about the bearings/bushings, gears and, and......

I know for sure what I would go for :-)


PS If you are able to get the old one working by Friday, say 10 starts I
will be amazed.


So you would also get that rebuild at Napa, right?



There are 3 or 4 places in town that would likely have a good used one
on the shelf for $15 or $20 here, as well as at least 4 rebuilders
that would likely have a couple already on the shelf - that I know
were rebuilt properly. That said, my local NAPA is only less than a
mile away and I drive past it twice a day - so unless I was headed
past one of the other places in my normal daily driving (or at least
close) I'd likely nab the one from NAPA. (assuming they have it in
stock - and the warehouse is only about 15 miles away, so if it's in
the warehouse I can generally have it (delivered) in less than 2
hours) I'm within 1/4 mile of one of the better rebuilders at least
twice a day too.


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