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30 pounds of math books, mostly calculus

45 pounds of electronics and data books, z-80, Motorola 68xxx, a
couple ca. 2000 HP/Agilent catalogs

8 pounds PLC text, motor control voc text, 1987 NEC

You pay for USPS media mail actual cost and the books are free, as
long as we don't get into cherry picking or extensive Q&A about
details. Looks like worst case, Maine to California, for 45# is about
$20.

My email address is good.

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8 pounds PLC text, motor control voc text, 1987 NEC


I'd like these, Ned.


You pay for USPS media mail actual cost and the books are free, as
long as we don't get into cherry picking or extensive Q&A about
details. Looks like worst case, Maine to California, for 45# is about
$20.

My email address is good.


Sent.

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8 pounds PLC text, motor control voc text, 1987 NEC


I'd like these, Ned.


You pay for USPS media mail actual cost and the books are free, as
long as we don't get into cherry picking or extensive Q&A about
details. Looks like worst case, Maine to California, for 45# is about
$20.

My email address is good.


Sent.


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8 pounds PLC text, motor control voc text, 1987 NEC


I'd like these, Ned.


You pay for USPS media mail actual cost and the books are free, as
long as we don't get into cherry picking or extensive Q&A about
details. Looks like worst case, Maine to California, for 45# is about
$20.

My email address is good.


Sent.


That lot goes to Larry.


Would you have Calc/Analytic Geom, Intuitive approach, Vol 1, by Morris
Kline??
Larry proly don't need it, and I got Vol. 2....
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:47:51 -0500, Ned Simmons
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8 pounds PLC text, motor control voc text, 1987 NEC

I'd like these, Ned.


You pay for USPS media mail actual cost and the books are free, as
long as we don't get into cherry picking or extensive Q&A about
details. Looks like worst case, Maine to California, for 45# is about
$20.

My email address is good.

Sent.


That lot goes to Larry.


Would you have Calc/Analytic Geom, Intuitive approach, Vol 1, by Morris
Kline??
Larry proly don't need it, and I got Vol. 2....


Take the pile of math books and find out. g

There are 8 books, but no Kline. Regardless, I think they'd look
better at your place than mine.

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8 pounds PLC text, motor control voc text, 1987 NEC


I'd like these, Ned.


You have that many tables to level?

(P.S.......I bought a Kindle for my sister to Guinea pig for me. I
loaded 977 books on it for her. I'm impressed so far, it's WAY cool!
Now, I'll get one. What will happen to dead-tree books?


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On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:47:51 -0500, Ned Simmons
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8 pounds PLC text, motor control voc text, 1987 NEC

I'd like these, Ned.


You pay for USPS media mail actual cost and the books are free, as
long as we don't get into cherry picking or extensive Q&A about
details. Looks like worst case, Maine to California, for 45# is about
$20.

My email address is good.

Sent.

That lot goes to Larry.


Would you have Calc/Analytic Geom, Intuitive approach, Vol 1, by Morris
Kline??
Larry proly don't need it, and I got Vol. 2....


Take the pile of math books and find out. g

There are 8 books, but no Kline. Regardless, I think they'd look
better at your place than mine.


I think he thought I got 'em all, but I only requested the third line
item, not the entire lot. 'Course, if you have a basic TRIG book in
there that he doesn't want...I've forgotten the 2 hours of trig
instrauction (1/2 dozen pages, IIRC) I received in Coleman College's
Computer Electronics Technology (comp repair) course back in '88.

I most certainly don't need calculus books. Alas, my math fu is weak.

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8 pounds PLC text, motor control voc text, 1987 NEC


I'd like these, Ned.


You have that many tables to level?


Huh? Oh, book under the leg to level the table. Got it.
YOU HEATHEN! BOOKS DON'T GO ON THE FLOOR! And stop eating the covers.
Some people's kids, I swear...


(P.S.......I bought a Kindle for my sister to Guinea pig for me. I
loaded 977 books on it for her. I'm impressed so far, it's WAY cool!
Now, I'll get one. What will happen to dead-tree books?


I'll keep collecting them.

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Larry Jaques wrote:

'Course, if you have a basic TRIG book in
there that he doesn't want...I've forgotten the 2 hours of trig
instrauction (1/2 dozen pages, IIRC) I received in Coleman College's
Computer Electronics Technology (comp repair) course back in '88.


Pretty basic, but easy to "ship", if you can live without paper. Your
local library probably has paper ones.

http://www.clarku.edu/~djoyce/trig/

http://www.free-ed.net/free-ed/Math/...trig02_SPK.asp

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Larry Jaques wrote:

'Course, if you have a basic TRIG book in
there that he doesn't want...I've forgotten the 2 hours of trig
instrauction (1/2 dozen pages, IIRC) I received in Coleman College's
Computer Electronics Technology (comp repair) course back in '88.


Pretty basic, but easy to "ship", if you can live without paper. Your
local library probably has paper ones.

http://www.clarku.edu/~djoyce/trig/

http://www.free-ed.net/free-ed/Math/...trig02_SPK.asp



Thanks for posting the first site, my kid is about to ask me trig.
questions soon and at first sight looks like a great place. Was
thinking of winging it to see how much I remember.

Lately, the estimate multiplied by an estimate divided by an estimate
equals a rounded answer questions are driving me crazy. And then
compare over time when your generalizing doesn't make since to me. Why
not use the exact numbers to make sure it all ads up. I use to get in
trouble at the black board for doing a lot of the equation in my head.
Like being marked for being the one who stole the teachers book. It
wasn't me, but I heard rumor that it was out and about. That's how the
Socialites passed the class.


SW


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(P.S.......I bought a Kindle for my sister to Guinea pig for me. I
loaded 977 books on it for her. I'm impressed so far, it's WAY cool!
Now, I'll get one. What will happen to dead-tree books?


Don't have one, but I think these look a lot nicer than Kindle:

http://www.pocketbookreader.com/

Kindle don't/won't read epub format nor fb2, djvu, html... which
eliminates a whole bunch of free stuff floating around the web. Don't
support any memory cards either.

Quite a few Tablet computers coming out now. A lot more $$$
though...

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Larry Jaques wrote:

'Course, if you have a basic TRIG book in
there that he doesn't want...I've forgotten the 2 hours of trig
instrauction (1/2 dozen pages, IIRC) I received in Coleman College's
Computer Electronics Technology (comp repair) course back in '88.


Pretty basic, but easy to "ship", if you can live without paper. Your
local library probably has paper ones.

http://www.clarku.edu/~djoyce/trig/

http://www.free-ed.net/free-ed/Math/...trig02_SPK.asp


Most excellent, sir. I'll check 'em out.

Thankee, oh person of reversed name.


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On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:17:36 -0400, Ecnerwal
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In article ,
Larry Jaques wrote:

'Course, if you have a basic TRIG book in
there that he doesn't want...I've forgotten the 2 hours of trig
instrauction (1/2 dozen pages, IIRC) I received in Coleman College's
Computer Electronics Technology (comp repair) course back in '88.


Pretty basic, but easy to "ship", if you can live without paper. Your
local library probably has paper ones.

http://www.clarku.edu/~djoyce/trig/

http://www.free-ed.net/free-ed/Math/...trig02_SPK.asp



Thanks for posting the first site, my kid is about to ask me trig.
questions soon and at first sight looks like a great place. Was
thinking of winging it to see how much I remember.

Lately, the estimate multiplied by an estimate divided by an estimate
equals a rounded answer questions are driving me crazy. And then
compare over time when your generalizing doesn't make since to me. Why
not use the exact numbers to make sure it all ads up. I use to get in
trouble at the black board for doing a lot of the equation in my head.


I had the same problem in Algebra II. I couldn't do the problems with
the method taught by the building contractor who also taught math at
high school. He failed me on the midterm because I didn't show any of
my calculations, but I got every answer right. He kept me after class
that afternoon and gave me another test of his own. I aced that, too,
but he gave me a lower grade because I couldn't use his methods.


Like being marked for being the one who stole the teachers book. It
wasn't me, but I heard rumor that it was out and about. That's how the
Socialites passed the class.


Mine thought that of me, too, until I was the only one taking his
test. He was the only one with answers. When my final grade in his
class came up a C- when I earned an A, I wanted to nuke him. Instead
of helping me to learn it, he ended up turning me away from math.

I just realized how much I haven't forgiven that.

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On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:18:30 -0500, Sunworshipper SW@GWNTUNDRA
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:17:36 -0400, Ecnerwal
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In article ,
Larry Jaques wrote:

'Course, if you have a basic TRIG book in
there that he doesn't want...I've forgotten the 2 hours of trig
instrauction (1/2 dozen pages, IIRC) I received in Coleman College's
Computer Electronics Technology (comp repair) course back in '88.

Pretty basic, but easy to "ship", if you can live without paper. Your
local library probably has paper ones.

http://www.clarku.edu/~djoyce/trig/

http://www.free-ed.net/free-ed/Math/...trig02_SPK.asp



Thanks for posting the first site, my kid is about to ask me trig.
questions soon and at first sight looks like a great place. Was
thinking of winging it to see how much I remember.

Lately, the estimate multiplied by an estimate divided by an estimate
equals a rounded answer questions are driving me crazy. And then
compare over time when your generalizing doesn't make since to me. Why
not use the exact numbers to make sure it all ads up. I use to get in
trouble at the black board for doing a lot of the equation in my head.


I had the same problem in Algebra II. I couldn't do the problems with
the method taught by the building contractor who also taught math at
high school. He failed me on the midterm because I didn't show any of
my calculations, but I got every answer right. He kept me after class
that afternoon and gave me another test of his own. I aced that, too,
but he gave me a lower grade because I couldn't use his methods.


Like being marked for being the one who stole the teachers book. It
wasn't me, but I heard rumor that it was out and about. That's how the
Socialites passed the class.


Mine thought that of me, too, until I was the only one taking his
test. He was the only one with answers. When my final grade in his
class came up a C- when I earned an A, I wanted to nuke him. Instead
of helping me to learn it, he ended up turning me away from math.

I just realized how much I haven't forgiven that.



I got held back from prerequisites and oh by the way your out of $ at
the beginning of the second semester.

The class always hated me in math cause I could get them all correct.
I'd even knock off a couple to keep the grade point average just below
the ceiling. Thing was that I never did my homework, ever. I did that
at home... For homework I would do all the problems with scribble
notes and then too busy to even write down the answers and that wasn't
enough, they wanted your notes, well my note were hard for me to read
again. So I'd always have an F and an A minus the grade point free bee
equals 48. Pay the teacher off with delivered breakfast tacos or beg
for the D-.


SW
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:47:51 -0500, Ned Simmons
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8 pounds PLC text, motor control voc text, 1987 NEC

I'd like these, Ned.


You pay for USPS media mail actual cost and the books are free, as
long as we don't get into cherry picking or extensive Q&A about
details. Looks like worst case, Maine to California, for 45# is about
$20.

My email address is good.

Sent.

That lot goes to Larry.


Would you have Calc/Analytic Geom, Intuitive approach, Vol 1, by Morris
Kline??
Larry proly don't need it, and I got Vol. 2....


Take the pile of math books and find out. g

There are 8 books, but no Kline. Regardless, I think they'd look
better at your place than mine.


Bless you, and yeah, they proly would look good over here, but as you can
well imagine, I think I'm exceeding the structural limits of my hovel as it
is,
AND le wife would kill me -- she now monitors what comes in le hovel.
And I don't even know what I would do with the Kline Vol 1 -- it's more
like salmon spawning, I'm so ****ed about it having grown legs. Amazing how
difficult that book is to find.
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