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"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Michael A. Terrell wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icrr6lZBMuQ excellent video! No comment on the video, but sorry to dissent, I recall listening to VOA as an unsophisticated teenager in England in the 1960s, and considering it to be laughable; no less so than the Eastern Bloc broadcasts. I didn't have much access to SW kit in those days, so was probably listening to MW broadcasts after dark, perhaps from Germany. I'm not saying that the BBC World Service doesn't broadcast propaganda, but at least it's a bit more subtle...... |
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newshound wrote: "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Michael A. Terrell wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icrr6lZBMuQ excellent video! No comment on the video, but sorry to dissent, I recall listening to VOA as an unsophisticated teenager in England in the 1960s, and considering it to be laughable; no less so than the Eastern Bloc broadcasts. I didn't have much access to SW kit in those days, so was probably listening to MW broadcasts after dark, perhaps from Germany. What was laughable? I'm not saying that the BBC World Service doesn't broadcast propaganda, but at least it's a bit more subtle...... Yet British troops were on US TV at the start of Iraq II, stating that they didn't trust the BBC and that they were watching US news services aboard their ships via satellite feeds. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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newshound wrote:
"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Michael A. Terrell wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icrr6lZBMuQ excellent video! No comment on the video, but sorry to dissent, I recall listening to VOA as an unsophisticated teenager in England in the 1960s, and considering it to be laughable; no less so than the Eastern Bloc broadcasts. I didn't have much access to SW kit in those days, so was probably listening to MW broadcasts after dark, perhaps from Germany. I'm not saying that the BBC World Service doesn't broadcast propaganda, but at least it's a bit more subtle...... I listened to most all of the shortwave broadcasts from all over the globe. It was very interesting to see how each nation would have a completely different report on the happenings of the day. BBC, Reuters, VOA, radio Moscow, Radio Netherlands, Berlin Germany, and a bunch of others. I had a FRR-24 and a FRR--33 as well as a couple of 28 KSR's and ASR's that I used. John |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:16:12 -0000, "newshound"
wrote: "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Michael A. Terrell wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icrr6lZBMuQ excellent video! No comment on the video, but sorry to dissent, I recall listening to VOA as an unsophisticated teenager in England in the 1960s, and considering it to be laughable; no less so than the Eastern Bloc broadcasts. I didn't have much access to SW kit in those days, so was probably listening to MW broadcasts after dark, perhaps from Germany. I'm not saying that the BBC World Service doesn't broadcast propaganda, but at least it's a bit more subtle...... Given that the VOA was designed from the start to "bring the truth" to countries not in the US sphere it seems logical to assume that it was/is all propaganda. By the way, I notice that the Beeb is no longer emphasizing the "proper British accent", I heard a girl disk jockey on the overseas broadcast that spoke with such a cockney accent that I needed a translator :-) |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 19:36:15 +0700, the renowned john B.
wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:16:12 -0000, "newshound" wrote: "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Michael A. Terrell wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icrr6lZBMuQ excellent video! No comment on the video, but sorry to dissent, I recall listening to VOA as an unsophisticated teenager in England in the 1960s, and considering it to be laughable; no less so than the Eastern Bloc broadcasts. I didn't have much access to SW kit in those days, so was probably listening to MW broadcasts after dark, perhaps from Germany. I'm not saying that the BBC World Service doesn't broadcast propaganda, but at least it's a bit more subtle...... Given that the VOA was designed from the start to "bring the truth" to countries not in the US sphere it seems logical to assume that it was/is all propaganda. By the way, I notice that the Beeb is no longer emphasizing the "proper British accent", I heard a girl disk jockey on the overseas broadcast that spoke with such a cockney accent that I needed a translator :-) A few years before the wall came down, I went on a study trip to Eastern Europe with a bunch of diplomats etc. and we had a chance to talk with dissidents etc. They also felt that the BBC was credible and the VOA was not. Maybe that was the purpose of the VOA- to make the BBC sound credible? ;-) Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 08:43:45 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 19:36:15 +0700, the renowned john B. wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:16:12 -0000, "newshound" wrote: "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Michael A. Terrell wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icrr6lZBMuQ excellent video! No comment on the video, but sorry to dissent, I recall listening to VOA as an unsophisticated teenager in England in the 1960s, and considering it to be laughable; no less so than the Eastern Bloc broadcasts. I didn't have much access to SW kit in those days, so was probably listening to MW broadcasts after dark, perhaps from Germany. I'm not saying that the BBC World Service doesn't broadcast propaganda, but at least it's a bit more subtle...... Given that the VOA was designed from the start to "bring the truth" to countries not in the US sphere it seems logical to assume that it was/is all propaganda. By the way, I notice that the Beeb is no longer emphasizing the "proper British accent", I heard a girl disk jockey on the overseas broadcast that spoke with such a cockney accent that I needed a translator :-) A few years before the wall came down, I went on a study trip to Eastern Europe with a bunch of diplomats etc. and we had a chance to talk with dissidents etc. They also felt that the BBC was credible and the VOA was not. Maybe that was the purpose of the VOA- to make the BBC sound credible? ;-) Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Perhaps you are right. Listening to the recounting of football scores between the U of Podunk and the Nowhere Technical collage is something that, of course, all foreigners are thrilled to hear. As for the Beeb, I've noticed a lowering, dumbing down, of content. The Cockney DJ is a case in point. Nothing wrong with ethnic or regional accents but if one could speak English one could understand the "old" BBC. Now, I'm not so sure :-) |
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