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Rust protecting 12L14
My second attempt to make that dog clutch, is to make it from a proper
diameter 12L14 round bar. It seems to work a little better, this being a round bar already means less machining, I fixed some bugs, redid the feedrate math, etc and so far it seems to be working. There is 50 minutes machining time left. The purpose of this is to make an adaptor to connect my servo motor with a work gear box, to the knee. Anyway, this 12L14 is the most amazing rusting machine imaginable, the chips made 2 hours ago are already rusting despite the coolant. So. How do I make the finished product -- a 6 inch long 12L14 bar -- somewhat rust protected? Right now, I think that I need to simply dry it, and cover with "marine grease" inside or where any surfaces mate, and something oily, but cleaner, outside. Any other ideas? i |
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Ignoramus562 wrote: My second attempt to make that dog clutch, is to make it from a proper diameter 12L14 round bar. It seems to work a little better, this being a round bar already means less machining, I fixed some bugs, redid the feedrate math, etc and so far it seems to be working. There is 50 minutes machining time left. The purpose of this is to make an adaptor to connect my servo motor with a work gear box, to the knee. Anyway, this 12L14 is the most amazing rusting machine imaginable, the chips made 2 hours ago are already rusting despite the coolant. Sounds like the coolant is too dilute. How do I make the finished product -- a 6 inch long 12L14 bar -- somewhat rust protected? Right now, I think that I need to simply dry it, and cover with "marine grease" inside or where any surfaces mate, and something oily, but cleaner, outside. Any other ideas? Zinc plating, using a kit from Caswell. Joe Gwinn |
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"Ignoramus562" wrote in message ... My second attempt to make that dog clutch, is to make it from a proper diameter 12L14 round bar. It seems to work a little better, this being a round bar already means less machining, I fixed some bugs, redid the feedrate math, etc and so far it seems to be working. There is 50 minutes machining time left. The purpose of this is to make an adaptor to connect my servo motor with a work gear box, to the knee. Anyway, this 12L14 is the most amazing rusting machine imaginable, the chips made 2 hours ago are already rusting despite the coolant. So. How do I make the finished product -- a 6 inch long 12L14 bar -- somewhat rust protected? Right now, I think that I need to simply dry it, and cover with "marine grease" inside or where any surfaces mate, and something oily, but cleaner, outside. Any other ideas? Dry with compressed air and then spray it with automatic transmission fluid...finally, place into a clean plastic bag. |
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Rust protecting 12L14
On Feb 21, 11:33*pm, Ignoramus562
wrote: ... How do I make the finished product -- a 6 inch long 12L14 bar -- somewhat rust protected?... i I've had reasonably good results from blackening 12L14 by boiling it in sodium thiosulphate (phototographers' "hypo") and rubbing on a little LPS3. It's protected a knurled adjusting screw on my sawmill that I turn with sweaty hands. jsw |
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, Jim Wilkins wrote: On Feb 21, 11:33*pm, Ignoramus562 wrote: ... How do I make the finished product -- a 6 inch long 12L14 bar -- somewhat rust protected?... i I've had reasonably good results from blackening 12L14 by boiling it in sodium thiosulphate (phototographers' "hypo") and rubbing on a little LPS3. It's protected a knurled adjusting screw on my sawmill that I turn with sweaty hands. Now there's an idea. Joe Gwinn |
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:33:48 -0600, Ignoramus562
wrote: My second attempt to make that dog clutch, is to make it from a proper diameter 12L14 round bar. It seems to work a little better, this being a round bar already means less machining, I fixed some bugs, redid the feedrate math, etc and so far it seems to be working. There is 50 minutes machining time left. The purpose of this is to make an adaptor to connect my servo motor with a work gear box, to the knee. Anyway, this 12L14 is the most amazing rusting machine imaginable, the chips made 2 hours ago are already rusting despite the coolant. So. How do I make the finished product -- a 6 inch long 12L14 bar -- somewhat rust protected? Right now, I think that I need to simply dry it, and cover with "marine grease" inside or where any surfaces mate, and something oily, but cleaner, outside. Any other ideas? Toss some zinc on that puppy, eh? Hmm, except for the working groove. That will take a lot of wear and I don't think zinc will bear up. Maybe go have it chromed in an existing chroming lot if anyone in your area still does that. Or call Caswell Plating and ask which of their kits would be best for it. -- The more passions and desires one has, the more ways one has of being happy. -- Charlotte-Catherine |
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On 02/22/2011 04:20 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
On Feb 21, 11:33 pm, wrote: ... How do I make the finished product -- a 6 inch long 12L14 bar -- somewhat rust protected?... i I've had reasonably good results from blackening 12L14 by boiling it in sodium thiosulphate (phototographers' "hypo") and rubbing on a little LPS3. It's protected a knurled adjusting screw on my sawmill that I turn with sweaty hands. I was going to suggest bluing it, but I've only ever blued mild steel parts inadvertently, as a side-effect of some metalworking process that involves a torch. It does seem to help, though. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com Do you need to implement control loops in software? "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you. See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html |
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On 2/22/2011 7:47 AM, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
In article , Jim wrote: On Feb 21, 11:33 pm, wrote: ... How do I make the finished product -- a 6 inch long 12L14 bar -- somewhat rust protected?... i I've had reasonably good results from blackening 12L14 by boiling it in sodium thiosulphate (phototographers' "hypo") and rubbing on a little LPS3. It's protected a knurled adjusting screw on my sawmill that I turn with sweaty hands. Now there's an idea. Joe Gwinn I use cold blue from Birchwood-Casey or Outers, then wipe on a thin coat of Vaseline. It works for me. I'll have to try the hot hypo. Kevin Gallimore |
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rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:33:48 -0600: How do I make the finished product -- a 6 inch long 12L14 bar -- somewhat rust protected? Clean, coat with linseed oil, bake at 450F for 20min-40min. -- Dan H. northshore MA. |
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clean it bake it rub off the micro rust and grease it ?
Martin On 2/21/2011 10:33 PM, Ignoramus562 wrote: My second attempt to make that dog clutch, is to make it from a proper diameter 12L14 round bar. It seems to work a little better, this being a round bar already means less machining, I fixed some bugs, redid the feedrate math, etc and so far it seems to be working. There is 50 minutes machining time left. The purpose of this is to make an adaptor to connect my servo motor with a work gear box, to the knee. Anyway, this 12L14 is the most amazing rusting machine imaginable, the chips made 2 hours ago are already rusting despite the coolant. So. How do I make the finished product -- a 6 inch long 12L14 bar -- somewhat rust protected? Right now, I think that I need to simply dry it, and cover with "marine grease" inside or where any surfaces mate, and something oily, but cleaner, outside. Any other ideas? i |
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Rust protecting 12L14
Flash copper plate it. No current - super saturated solution
and placing a bar in it cools it - depositing copper. Test it first. Once copper plated - wash and grease or oil. Martin On 2/21/2011 10:33 PM, Ignoramus562 wrote: My second attempt to make that dog clutch, is to make it from a proper diameter 12L14 round bar. It seems to work a little better, this being a round bar already means less machining, I fixed some bugs, redid the feedrate math, etc and so far it seems to be working. There is 50 minutes machining time left. The purpose of this is to make an adaptor to connect my servo motor with a work gear box, to the knee. Anyway, this 12L14 is the most amazing rusting machine imaginable, the chips made 2 hours ago are already rusting despite the coolant. So. How do I make the finished product -- a 6 inch long 12L14 bar -- somewhat rust protected? Right now, I think that I need to simply dry it, and cover with "marine grease" inside or where any surfaces mate, and something oily, but cleaner, outside. Any other ideas? i |
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"Ignoramus562" wrote in message ... Any other ideas? Oops missed that one first time around. lol Cheapest finish I know of is heat it to 400 or so then drop into a bucket of used motor oil or similar. More properly, one would use beeswax turpentine and linseed and call it a "blacksmith finish" YMMV |
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