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Using a cheap ring roller (which I have not purchased at this point)
such as http://www.harborfreight.com/tubing-roller-99736.html

Would it be possible to roll a piece of 1/4 or 3/8 x 1-1/4 CDS
(cold drawn steel) on it's 1-1/4 dimension to a 16" circle? Hard
to explain but I don't need to roll it on it's narrow side but rather
the wide side. I know you could roll it on the wide side easily but
the narrow side possibly presents problems. This probably a question
more about the material than the machine. As in would the material hold
it's shape or would it kink? Any tips are appreciated.
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I am certain it could be done, but probably not cold. You would have significant thickness difference across the profile though. I
would never consider this as the correct solution though. I would be cutting this from sheet. It would cheaper, faster and without
material stress.
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Using a cheap ring roller (which I have not purchased at this point)
such as http://www.harborfreight.com/tubing-roller-99736.html

Would it be possible to roll a piece of 1/4 or 3/8 x 1-1/4 CDS
(cold drawn steel) on it's 1-1/4 dimension to a 16" circle? Hard
to explain but I don't need to roll it on it's narrow side but rather
the wide side. I know you could roll it on the wide side easily but
the narrow side possibly presents problems. This probably a question
more about the material than the machine. As in would the material hold it's shape or would it kink? Any tips are
appreciated.


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On 9/26/2010 2:39 AM, Steve Lusardi wrote:
I am certain it could be done, but probably not cold. You would have
significant thickness difference across the profile though. I would
never consider this as the correct solution though. I would be cutting
this from sheet. It would cheaper, faster and without material stress.
Steve

Would it be possible to roll a piece of 1/4 or 3/8 x 1-1/4 CDS
(cold drawn steel) on it's 1-1/4 dimension to a 16" circle? Hard
to explain but I don't need to roll it on it's narrow side but rather
the wide side. I know you could roll it on the wide side easily but
the narrow side possibly presents problems. This probably a question
more about the material than the machine. As in would the material
hold it's shape or would it kink? Any tips are appreciated.



I don't have any tools to cut it from sheet and make it look nice is the
problem.
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Find a shop that has a cnc plasma or water cutter machine and ask. It only takes a few minutes. If you are not a pain in ass, most
folks would do you the favor.
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On 9/26/2010 2:39 AM, Steve Lusardi wrote:
I am certain it could be done, but probably not cold. You would have
significant thickness difference across the profile though. I would
never consider this as the correct solution though. I would be cutting
this from sheet. It would cheaper, faster and without material stress.
Steve

Would it be possible to roll a piece of 1/4 or 3/8 x 1-1/4 CDS
(cold drawn steel) on it's 1-1/4 dimension to a 16" circle? Hard
to explain but I don't need to roll it on it's narrow side but rather
the wide side. I know you could roll it on the wide side easily but
the narrow side possibly presents problems. This probably a question
more about the material than the machine. As in would the material
hold it's shape or would it kink? Any tips are appreciated.



I don't have any tools to cut it from sheet and make it look nice is the
problem.


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Using a cheap ring roller (which I have not purchased at this point)
such as
http://www.harborfreight.com/tubing-roller-99736.html

Would it be possible to roll a piece of 1/4 or 3/8 x 1-1/4 CDS
(cold drawn steel) on it's 1-1/4 dimension to a 16" circle? Hard
to explain but I don't need to roll it on it's narrow side but rather
the wide side. I know you could roll it on the wide side easily but
the narrow side possibly presents problems. This probably a question
more about the material than the machine. As in would the material

hold
it's shape or would it kink? Any tips are appreciated.



Somwhere this past summer this type of rolling was discussed on one of
the metalworking forums, but darned if I can locate it. It had lots of
photos of these operations.

I doubt that the HF roller has the type of dies to do it, it requires
restraints on the flat sides while it is rolling. I don't think it would
have the strength, for that matter.

Find a piece of 16" pipe, cut off a 1 1/4" slice, and beat it flat:-)


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I'd consider this one for strength...

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On 9/25/2010 11:34 PM, sbnjhfty wrote:
Using a cheap ring roller (which I have not purchased at this point)
such as http://www.harborfreight.com/tubing-roller-99736.html

Would it be possible to roll a piece of 1/4 or 3/8 x 1-1/4 CDS
(cold drawn steel) on it's 1-1/4 dimension to a 16" circle? Hard
to explain but I don't need to roll it on it's narrow side but rather
the wide side. I know you could roll it on the wide side easily but
the narrow side possibly presents problems. This probably a question
more about the material than the machine. As in would the material hold it's
shape or would it kink? Any tips are appreciated.

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Using a cheap ring roller (which I have not purchased at this point)
such as http://www.harborfreight.com/tubing-roller-99736.html

Would it be possible to roll a piece of 1/4 or 3/8 x 1-1/4 CDS
(cold drawn steel) on it's 1-1/4 dimension to a 16" circle? Hard
to explain but I don't need to roll it on it's narrow side but rather
the wide side. I know you could roll it on the wide side easily but
the narrow side possibly presents problems. This probably a question
more about the material than the machine. As in would the material hold
it's shape or would it kink? Any tips are appreciated.


That unit can't do it. Find a shop that has a #2 Buffalo. But that'll take
a 20' piece rolled into a "spring" that then gets cut into rings that have
to be flattened. One of my engineers used to do a LOT of roll forming and
he doesn't envy the job. Cut it out of plate.


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