On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:37:52 -0600, robert bowman
wrote:

Deep Dudu wrote:

In fascism, those "individuals" who get to choose are NOT the people,
they are your wealthy masters. Â*In leftism, those who decide are
selected and elected by the people. Â*No elitist class exists in
progressive thought.

so you're good with the Great Decider being selected and elected -- twice?
Sometimes I think universal suffrage isn't all it's cracked up to be.


If you say selected by his Daddy's appointees, no. If it were
actually a case of The People having elected him in a fair and honest
vote that would be fine because that is democracy in action. That is
not, however, what happened. The right wing stole both elections for
Bush. They would have done the same for McCain but it was such a
landslide they never could have gotten away with it without a military
coup, and you can bet your last can of beans that plan was in the
works.

Deep Dudu wrote in message ...
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:37:52 -0600, robert bowman
wrote:

Deep Dudu wrote:

In fascism, those "individuals" who get to choose are NOT the people,
they are your wealthy masters. Â In leftism, those who decide are
selected and elected by the people. Â No elitist class exists in
progressive thought.

so you're good with the Great Decider being selected and elected -- twice?
Sometimes I think universal suffrage isn't all it's cracked up to be.


If you say selected by his Daddy's appointees, no. If it were
actually a case of The People having elected him in a fair and honest
vote that would be fine because that is democracy in action. That is
not, however, what happened. The right wing stole both elections for
Bush. They would have done the same for McCain but it was such a
landslide they never could have gotten away with it without a military
coup, and you can bet your last can of beans that plan was in the
works.



And, and, and...don't forget the fake moon landings, Bush bombed the WTC,
global warming is real, fluoridated water kills, CIA killed JFK, aliens from
Zorkon impersonating people, massive debt spending and huge tax hikes are
the only way out of a recession, socialism/Marxism is the perfect economic
answer, God doesn't exist, a crucifix in urine is fine art, Bush caused
Katrina with weather machine, abortion isn't murder, etc., etc., etc.

You need another layer of foil on your helmet!

And, and, and...don't forget the fake moon landings, Bush bombed the WTC,
global warming is real, fluoridated water kills, CIA killed JFK, aliens from
Zorkon impersonating people, massive debt spending and huge tax hikes are
the only way out of a recession, socialism/Marxism is the perfect economic
answer, God doesn't exist, a crucifix in urine is fine art, Bush caused
Katrina with weather machine, abortion isn't murder, etc., etc., etc.

You need another layer of foil on your helmet!


And if you don't believe that republicans would cheat to win so do you.
They will do anything to win. Lying, cheating, stealing, hypocrisy, you
name it they would stoop to anything to get power. But you go ahead and
pretend that they have morals and ethics. Yeah, so does Charles Manson.
Probably more than the average republican, by the way.

Hawke

"Hawke" wrote in message
...

And, and, and...don't forget the fake moon landings, Bush bombed the WTC,
global warming is real, fluoridated water kills, CIA killed JFK, aliens
from
Zorkon impersonating people, massive debt spending and huge tax hikes are
the only way out of a recession, socialism/Marxism is the perfect
economic
answer, God doesn't exist, a crucifix in urine is fine art, Bush caused
Katrina with weather machine, abortion isn't murder, etc., etc., etc.

You need another layer of foil on your helmet!


And if you don't believe that republicans would cheat to win so do you.
They will do anything to win. Lying, cheating, stealing, hypocrisy, you
name it they would stoop to anything to get power. But you go ahead and
pretend that they have morals and ethics. Yeah, so does Charles Manson.
Probably more than the average republican, by the way.

Hawke


I agree, the Republicans have almost sunken as low as the Democrats, getting
hard to tell them apart.

RogerN

"Hawke" wrote in message
...

And, and, and...don't forget the fake moon landings, Bush bombed the WTC,
global warming is real, fluoridated water kills, CIA killed JFK, aliens
from
Zorkon impersonating people, massive debt spending and huge tax hikes are
the only way out of a recession, socialism/Marxism is the perfect
economic
answer, God doesn't exist, a crucifix in urine is fine art, Bush caused
Katrina with weather machine, abortion isn't murder, etc., etc., etc.

You need another layer of foil on your helmet!


And if you don't believe that republicans would cheat to win so do you.
They will do anything to win. Lying, cheating, stealing, hypocrisy, you
name it they would stoop to anything to get power. But you go ahead and
pretend that they have morals and ethics. Yeah, so does Charles Manson.
Probably more than the average republican, by the way.

Hawke


Leftists firmly believe that the end justifies the means, as in your bible:
"Rules for Radicals" by Saul Allinski. And don't forget your Constitution
laid out by Cloward and Piven.

Plenty of bad Republicans---NO good Democrats!

"RogerN" wrote in message
m...

"Hawke" wrote in message
...

And, and, and...don't forget the fake moon landings, Bush bombed the
WTC,
global warming is real, fluoridated water kills, CIA killed JFK, aliens
from
Zorkon impersonating people, massive debt spending and huge tax hikes
are
the only way out of a recession, socialism/Marxism is the perfect
economic
answer, God doesn't exist, a crucifix in urine is fine art, Bush caused
Katrina with weather machine, abortion isn't murder, etc., etc., etc.

You need another layer of foil on your helmet!


And if you don't believe that republicans would cheat to win so do you.
They will do anything to win. Lying, cheating, stealing, hypocrisy, you
name it they would stoop to anything to get power. But you go ahead and
pretend that they have morals and ethics. Yeah, so does Charles Manson.
Probably more than the average republican, by the way.

Hawke


I agree, the Republicans have almost sunken as low as the Democrats,
getting hard to tell them apart.

RogerN



Republicans give you some change back when they steal your money, Democrats
take your wallet too.

"Buerste" wrote in message
...


I agree, the Republicans have almost sunken as low as the Democrats,
getting hard to tell them apart.

RogerN



Republicans give you some change back when they steal your money,
Democrats take your wallet too.

When a Republican does something wrong, it's in the news, a big story, a big
deal and all. When a Democrat does the same thing it's the norm for them.
Just like the former Illinois Gov, he was trying to sell Obama's seat and
didn't even realize it was wrong. And to top it off they think they are
smart!

Recipe: How to make a Liberal Democrat
Take one idiot, clean good, make sure to remove any trace of common sense
and morality. Educate and indoctrinate with leftist ideas that have always
failed in the past. Continue indoctrination until they fit the mold and
claim they are thinking for themselves. Test to make sure they can resist
common sense and reason, give them a diploma and send them out to destroy
the USA.

RogerN

In article ,
Hawke wrote:

And, and, and...don't forget the fake moon landings, Bush bombed the WTC,
global warming is real, fluoridated water kills, CIA killed JFK, aliens from
Zorkon impersonating people, massive debt spending and huge tax hikes are
the only way out of a recession, socialism/Marxism is the perfect economic
answer, God doesn't exist, a crucifix in urine is fine art, Bush caused
Katrina with weather machine, abortion isn't murder, etc., etc., etc.

You need another layer of foil on your helmet!


And if you don't believe that republicans would cheat to win so do you.
They will do anything to win. Lying, cheating, stealing, hypocrisy, you
name it they would stoop to anything to get power. But you go ahead and
pretend that they have morals and ethics. Yeah, so does Charles Manson.
Probably more than the average republican, by the way.

Hawke

One should alwaya wear a double-layer AFDB; one shiny side out so Their
thought-control rays don't get in and corrupt your brain, one shiny side
in so your secret thoughts don't leak out where They can read them.

In article ,
"RogerN" wrote:

"Hawke" wrote in message
...

And, and, and...don't forget the fake moon landings, Bush bombed the WTC,
global warming is real, fluoridated water kills, CIA killed JFK, aliens
from
Zorkon impersonating people, massive debt spending and huge tax hikes are
the only way out of a recession, socialism/Marxism is the perfect
economic
answer, God doesn't exist, a crucifix in urine is fine art, Bush caused
Katrina with weather machine, abortion isn't murder, etc., etc., etc.

You need another layer of foil on your helmet!


And if you don't believe that republicans would cheat to win so do you.
They will do anything to win. Lying, cheating, stealing, hypocrisy, you
name it they would stoop to anything to get power. But you go ahead and
pretend that they have morals and ethics. Yeah, so does Charles Manson.
Probably more than the average republican, by the way.

Hawke


I agree, the Republicans have almost sunken as low as the Democrats, getting
hard to tell them apart.

RogerN

Can't tell the pigs from the men without a program.

"John Husvar" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"RogerN" wrote:

snip

And if you don't believe that republicans would cheat to win so do you.
They will do anything to win. Lying, cheating, stealing, hypocrisy, you
name it they would stoop to anything to get power. But you go ahead and
pretend that they have morals and ethics. Yeah, so does Charles Manson.
Probably more than the average republican, by the way.

Hawke


I agree, the Republicans have almost sunken as low as the Democrats,
getting
hard to tell them apart.

RogerN

Can't tell the pigs from the men without a program.

That reminds me of the story I heard about the prodigal pig. The story of
the prodigal son that Jesus told, the son ended up in the pig pin, but he
didn't stay there, one day he came to himself and went back to the fathers
house.

The story of the prodigal pig is similar. You can take a pig, clean it up,
dress it up, and take it to the fathers house. The pig might think it's
pretty neat being all cleaned up and being in the fathers house, but sooner
or later his nature will take him back to the pig pen to waller in the
filth.

A true Christian can fall into sin but he won't stay there, he won't be
satisfied in a pig pen because he's a son, not a pig. Likewise a sinner can
dress up and try to act like a Christian but he won't be able to maintain
this Christian act because by nature he is really a pig.

RogerN

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 06:19:13 -0500, "RogerN" wrote:


"Buerste" wrote in message
m...


I agree, the Republicans have almost sunken as low as the Democrats,
getting hard to tell them apart.

RogerN



Republicans give you some change back when they steal your money,
Democrats take your wallet too.

When a Republican does something wrong, it's in the news, a big story, a big
deal and all. When a Democrat does the same thing it's the norm for them.
Just like the former Illinois Gov, he was trying to sell Obama's seat and
didn't even realize it was wrong. And to top it off they think they are
smart!

Recipe: How to make a Liberal Democrat
Take one idiot, clean good, make sure to remove any trace of common sense
and morality. Educate and indoctrinate with leftist ideas that have always
failed in the past. Continue indoctrination until they fit the mold and
claim they are thinking for themselves. Test to make sure they can resist
common sense and reason, give them a diploma and send them out to destroy
the USA.

RogerN


That actually is a pretty accurate description.

Unfortunately.


Gunner


I am the Sword of my Family
and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
(Hebrew quote)

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 08:22:34 -0500, RogerN wrote:

The story of the prodigal pig is similar. You can take a pig, clean it
up, dress it up, and take it to the fathers house. The pig might think
it's pretty neat being all cleaned up and being in the fathers house, but
sooner or later his nature will take him back to the pig pen to waller in
the filth.

Pigs won't wallow in filth, only clean mud. In fact, they usually have a
special corner of the sty for toileting, which they avoid unless peeing or
pooping, which they then avoid.

My Uncle Johnny raised pigs - they're really very clean animals.

Thanks,
Rich

"Rich Grise" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 08:22:34 -0500, RogerN wrote:

The story of the prodigal pig is similar. You can take a pig, clean it
up, dress it up, and take it to the fathers house. The pig might think
it's pretty neat being all cleaned up and being in the fathers house, but
sooner or later his nature will take him back to the pig pen to waller in
the filth.

Pigs won't wallow in filth, only clean mud. In fact, they usually have a
special corner of the sty for toileting, which they avoid unless peeing or
pooping, which they then avoid.

My Uncle Johnny raised pigs - they're really very clean animals.

Thanks,
Rich


And, taste good!