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Blacksmith tooling pix, hand and machine
Back in 1999, we took an ABANA European tour to Germany, Austria and the Czech Republic. We saw lots of neat stuff. We took lots of pictures using an ancient art called "film photography". So it took a long time for me to decide to scan these babies in and process them for best results.
Here, in this new webpage, I have some pix of blacksmith tooling, both hand and machine, that, I hope, you will find of some interest: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/P...olGallery1.htm Pete Stanaitis --------------------- |
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:51:13 -0600, spaco
wrote: Back in 1999, we took an ABANA European tour to Germany, Austria and the Czech Republic. We saw lots of neat stuff. We took lots of pictures using an ancient art called "film photography". So it took a long time for me to decide to scan these babies in and process them for best results. Here, in this new webpage, I have some pix of blacksmith tooling, both hand and machine, that, I hope, you will find of some interest: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/P...olGallery1.htm Pete Stanaitis --------------------- Hey Pete, NEAT!!! What was the "drive principle" of the water-powered trip-hammer (last pix)?? Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario |
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There's a big wooden drive axle (about a foot in diameter) that is
rotated by the water wheel. For some reason I think many of that kind of water wheel run at about 9 rpm. Don't ask me why. I think this drive axle was geared so it operated the hammer at about at about 20 blows per minute. There were, I think, 4 short wooden pins sticking out of the axle. As that shaft rotates, each pin pushes DOWN on the tail end of the helve, pushing the hammer end up. When the tail of the helve comes off the end of the pin, the helve and hammer drop to the anvil with the speed of gravity. Many of us had the chance to try it ourselves. The interesting thing was that the hammer head clamps the workpiece between blows, so it takes a lot of heat out of the work just sitting there. It's a wierd feeling when you are used to a "modern" (1890's) Little Giant power hammer where the hammer is only on the workpiece for small fraction of the cycle, at 325 to 375 blows per minute. Glad you asked, Pete Stanaitis ------------------- Brian Lawson wrote: On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:51:13 -0600, spaco wrote: Back in 1999, we took an ABANA European tour to Germany, Austria and the Czech Republic. We saw lots of neat stuff. We took lots of pictures using an ancient art called "film photography". So it took a long time for me to decide to scan these babies in and process them for best results. Here, in this new webpage, I have some pix of blacksmith tooling, both hand and machine, that, I hope, you will find of some interest: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/P...olGallery1.htm Pete Stanaitis --------------------- Hey Pete, NEAT!!! What was the "drive principle" of the water-powered trip-hammer (last pix)?? Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario |
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Hey again Pete,
And Thanks for the answer. It would have taken some time and funds to construct all that I bet. Probably allowed the blacksmith to go do some work in the middle of the night without a helper!! You know, right after the middle of the night argument with SWMBO !! Tnaks a agian. Brian Lawson. XXXXXXXXXXXX On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:07:24 -0600, spaco wrote: There's a big wooden drive axle (about a foot in diameter) that is rotated by the water wheel. For some reason I think many of that kind of water wheel run at about 9 rpm. Don't ask me why. I think this drive axle was geared so it operated the hammer at about at about 20 blows per minute. There were, I think, 4 short wooden pins sticking out of the axle. As that shaft rotates, each pin pushes DOWN on the tail end of the helve, pushing the hammer end up. When the tail of the helve comes off the end of the pin, the helve and hammer drop to the anvil with the speed of gravity. Many of us had the chance to try it ourselves. The interesting thing was that the hammer head clamps the workpiece between blows, so it takes a lot of heat out of the work just sitting there. It's a wierd feeling when you are used to a "modern" (1890's) Little Giant power hammer where the hammer is only on the workpiece for small fraction of the cycle, at 325 to 375 blows per minute. Glad you asked, Pete Stanaitis ------------------- Brian Lawson wrote: On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:51:13 -0600, spaco wrote: Back in 1999, we took an ABANA European tour to Germany, Austria and the Czech Republic. We saw lots of neat stuff. We took lots of pictures using an ancient art called "film photography". So it took a long time for me to decide to scan these babies in and process them for best results. Here, in this new webpage, I have some pix of blacksmith tooling, both hand and machine, that, I hope, you will find of some interest: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/P...olGallery1.htm Pete Stanaitis --------------------- Hey Pete, NEAT!!! What was the "drive principle" of the water-powered trip-hammer (last pix)?? Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario |
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Yes. It was in a 16th century "factory" in Austria. The factory was
built on both sides of the mountain stream that fed it. The building was about a city block long. The stream actually went under the center of the building, but they had built an overhead flume that fed water to the various water wheels and machines. There were walkways that communicated with the halves of the building. You had to duck to walk under the flume, which dripped profusely as you scrambled under it. The floors were sorta carved out of the rock of the mountain. At points, there would be chunks of rock sticking up 5 inches or so in the middle of the passageways, and of course, the floor wasn't level hardly anwhere. Quite a place! Pete Stanaitis ----------------- Brian Lawson wrote: Hey again Pete, And Thanks for the answer. It would have taken some time and funds to construct all that I bet. Probably allowed the blacksmith to go do some work in the middle of the night without a helper!! You know, right after the middle of the night argument with SWMBO !! Tnaks a agian. Brian Lawson. XXXXXXXXXXXX On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:07:24 -0600, spaco wrote: There's a big wooden drive axle (about a foot in diameter) that is rotated by the water wheel. For some reason I think many of that kind of water wheel run at about 9 rpm. Don't ask me why. I think this drive axle was geared so it operated the hammer at about at about 20 blows per minute. There were, I think, 4 short wooden pins sticking out of the axle. As that shaft rotates, each pin pushes DOWN on the tail end of the helve, pushing the hammer end up. When the tail of the helve comes off the end of the pin, the helve and hammer drop to the anvil with the speed of gravity. Many of us had the chance to try it ourselves. The interesting thing was that the hammer head clamps the workpiece between blows, so it takes a lot of heat out of the work just sitting there. It's a wierd feeling when you are used to a "modern" (1890's) Little Giant power hammer where the hammer is only on the workpiece for small fraction of the cycle, at 325 to 375 blows per minute. Glad you asked, Pete Stanaitis ------------------- Brian Lawson wrote: On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:51:13 -0600, spaco wrote: Back in 1999, we took an ABANA European tour to Germany, Austria and the Czech Republic. We saw lots of neat stuff. We took lots of pictures using an ancient art called "film photography". So it took a long time for me to decide to scan these babies in and process them for best results. Here, in this new webpage, I have some pix of blacksmith tooling, both hand and machine, that, I hope, you will find of some interest: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/P...olGallery1.htm Pete Stanaitis --------------------- Hey Pete, NEAT!!! What was the "drive principle" of the water-powered trip-hammer (last pix)?? Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario |
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On Mar 6, 7:35*am, spaco wrote:
Yes. *It was in a 16th century "factory" in Austria. *The factory was built on both sides of the mountain stream that fed it. *The building was about a city block long. *The stream actually went under the center of the building, but they had built an overhead flume that fed water to the various water wheels and machines. *There were walkways that communicated with the halves of the building. *You had to duck to walk under the flume, which dripped profusely as you scrambled under it. * *The floors were sorta carved out of the rock of the mountain. At points, there would be chunks of rock sticking up 5 inches or so in the middle of the passageways, and of course, the floor wasn't level hardly anwhere. *Quite a place! Pete Stanaitis ----------------- Brian Lawson wrote: Hey again Pete, And Thanks for the answer. * It would have taken some time and funds to construct all that I bet. Probably allowed the blacksmith to go do some work in the middle of the night without a helper!! *You know, right after the middle of the night argument with SWMBO !! Tnaks a agian. Brian Lawson. XXXXXXXXXXXX On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:07:24 -0600, spaco wrote: There's a big wooden drive axle (about a foot in diameter) that is rotated by the water wheel. For some reason I think many of that kind of water wheel run at about 9 rpm. *Don't ask me why. *I think this drive axle was geared so it operated the hammer at about at about 20 blows per minute. *There were, I think, 4 short wooden pins sticking out of the axle. As that shaft rotates, each pin pushes DOWN on the tail end of the helve, pushing the hammer end up. *When the tail of the helve comes off the end of the pin, the helve and hammer drop to the anvil with the speed of gravity. *Many of us had the chance to try it ourselves. *The interesting thing was that the hammer head clamps the workpiece between blows, so it takes a lot of heat out of the work just sitting there. *It's a wierd feeling when you are used to a "modern" *(1890's) *Little Giant power hammer where the hammer is only on the workpiece for small fraction of the cycle, at 325 to 375 blows per minute. Glad you asked, Pete Stanaitis ------------------- Brian Lawson wrote: On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:51:13 -0600, spaco wrote: Back in 1999, we took an ABANA European tour to Germany, Austria and the Czech Republic. *We saw lots of neat stuff. We took lots of pictures using an ancient art called "film photography". *So it took a long time for me to decide to scan these babies in and process them for best results. Here, in this new webpage, I have some pix of blacksmith tooling, both hand and machine, that, I hope, you will find of some interest: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/P...uroToolGallery... Pete Stanaitis --------------------- Hey Pete, NEAT!!! *What was the "drive principle" of the water-powered trip-hammer (last pix)?? Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario Do you remember the name? My brother and family are in berlin for the next 2 months and are looking for places like this to ivsit. Thanks Karl |
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