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Conclusion:
When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a
British passport or an Indonesian passport.


Imagine my surprise that Snopes has seen this as well...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp

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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:49:41 -0500, Ned Simmons wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:52:20 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:
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Conclusion:
When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a
British passport or an Indonesian passport.


Imagine my surprise that Snopes has seen this as well...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp



So which passport did he use?

Gunner

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I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:11:20 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:49:41 -0500, Ned Simmons wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:52:20 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:
.

Conclusion:
When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a
British passport or an Indonesian passport.


Imagine my surprise that Snopes has seen this as well...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp



So which passport did he use?

Gunner



The passport he has, which is a US passport. There was no reason why he should
not use a US passport to visit Pakistan in 1981.


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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:55:37 +0000, Mark Rand
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:11:20 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:49:41 -0500, Ned Simmons wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:52:20 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:
.

Conclusion:
When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a
British passport or an Indonesian passport.

Imagine my surprise that Snopes has seen this as well...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp



So which passport did he use?

Gunner



The passport he has, which is a US passport. There was no reason why he should
not use a US passport to visit Pakistan in 1981.


Do you have a picture of that passport? And any cites as to which
passport he actually used?

Or are you simply giving your opinion? Again.

Gunner



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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:55:37 +0000, Mark Rand
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:11:20 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:49:41 -0500, Ned Simmons wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:52:20 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:
.

Conclusion:
When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a
British passport or an Indonesian passport.

Imagine my surprise that Snopes has seen this as well...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp


So which passport did he use?

Gunner



The passport he has, which is a US passport. There was no reason why he
should
not use a US passport to visit Pakistan in 1981.


Do you have a picture of that passport? And any cites as to which
passport he actually used?

Or are you simply giving your opinion? Again.

Gunner


Another birther on a fishing trip.

This is what I mean that it would make no difference if Obama walked around
downtown DC waving his long-form birth certificate. The birther nutbags
would just keep finding one more thing to question, world without end, amen.

What reason do you have to believe it wasn't a US passport, Gunner? Except
for the discredited ones you've come up with so far, that is.

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Or are you simply giving your opinion? Again.

Gunner



Guns! Take a step back and breathe!

Bottom line - it doesn't matter anymore.
The guy IS the President of the United States, and yes,
he's not only a democrat, he's black.

Deal with it, man.
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:22:55 -0600, cavelamb
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Gunner Asch wrote:

Or are you simply giving your opinion? Again.

Gunner



Guns! Take a step back and breathe!

Bottom line - it doesn't matter anymore.
The guy IS the President of the United States, and yes,
he's not only a democrat, he's black.


Actually...he is only 6% black, 50% white, and 44% middle eastern, but
that really doesnt mean anything to me. What bothers me (and we are
drifting from the topic) is that he is a Marxist Community Organizer
with absolutely NO clue what he is doing as president. And Ill bet he
would admit that, if you got him high enough, or drunk enough.

Now..as to his passport...and is he Legally the President of the USA?
He may have been voted in..but frauds happen every day. Look at Wall
Street for an example.


Deal with it, man.


I was simply asking questions. Shrug..if the Left doesnt like the
questions..then they should be able to answer it promptly and properly.

Their Opinions are like assholes..everyone has one..and they all stink.


Gunner

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cavelamb wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:

Or are you simply giving your opinion? Again.

Gunner



Guns! Take a step back and breathe!

Bottom line - it doesn't matter anymore.
The guy IS the President of the United States, and yes,
he's not only a democrat, he's black.

Deal with it, man.



What do you think they are doing? This is how they do it. This is just
more of the campaign to destroy the president. They did it with Clinton
and now this is round two. This ploy is the one perfected by the Nazis.
It's the big lie routine. They make up lies and keep telling them over
and over in the hope that if you hear the lie enough times you start to
believe them. It's very effective on average people. But this is only
one technique they have in their bag of tricks. You'll see every one of
them over the next four years. It's all about tearing down Obama. They
don't care what damage they do to the country because the see replacing
the Democratic president with any republican, even a Sarah Palin, as
being good for the country. So they will try every dirty, sneaky,
underhanded trick they can come up with. You just have to consider who
this is coming from and then pay no attention to any of it. Just
remember if it is being said by a right winger it's a lie.

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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:11:20 -0800, Gunner Asch
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:49:41 -0500, Ned Simmons wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:52:20 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:
.

Conclusion:
When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a
British passport or an Indonesian passport.


Imagine my surprise that Snopes has seen this as well...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp



So which passport did he use?

Gunner


A far more interesting question is: "If there is even a tiny chance
that you are correct why has there not been a concentrated effort by
the Republican Party to obtain this information?"

One would tend to believe that if it were possible to prove that an
election of a Democrat President was fraudulently that the Republicans
would want it publicized. Wouldn't one?

Regards,

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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:00:35 +0700, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:11:20 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:49:41 -0500, Ned Simmons wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:52:20 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:
.

Conclusion:
When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a
British passport or an Indonesian passport.

Imagine my surprise that Snopes has seen this as well...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp


So which passport did he use?

Gunner


A far more interesting question is: "If there is even a tiny chance
that you are correct why has there not been a concentrated effort by
the Republican Party to obtain this information?"

One would tend to believe that if it were possible to prove that an
election of a Democrat President was fraudulently that the Republicans
would want it publicized. Wouldn't one?


Have any idea how many times this question has been brought to court so
far?

33 times

And it never ever goes to trial or a jury.

Democrats make sure to put up such a fuss...that it is tossed out of
court. generally without "prejudice"...which means it can be opened
again.

And when it is...its again tossed without prejudice..and then again and
again.

Seems no court wants to be the one to upset the apple cart..or be the
first one to find a president there illegally.

Must scare the **** out any judge put in that position.

Gunner

Regards,

J.B.


"Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:22:01 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:00:35 +0700, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:11:20 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:49:41 -0500, Ned Simmons wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:52:20 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:
.

Conclusion:
When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a
British passport or an Indonesian passport.

Imagine my surprise that Snopes has seen this as well...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp


So which passport did he use?

Gunner


A far more interesting question is: "If there is even a tiny chance
that you are correct why has there not been a concentrated effort by
the Republican Party to obtain this information?"

One would tend to believe that if it were possible to prove that an
election of a Democrat President was fraudulently that the Republicans
would want it publicized. Wouldn't one?


Have any idea how many times this question has been brought to court so
far?

33 times

And it never ever goes to trial or a jury.

Democrats make sure to put up such a fuss...that it is tossed out of
court. generally without "prejudice"...which means it can be opened
again.

And when it is...its again tossed without prejudice..and then again and
again.

Seems no court wants to be the one to upset the apple cart..or be the
first one to find a president there illegally.

Must scare the **** out any judge put in that position.

Gunner

Regards,

J.B.


Do you really believe all this conspiracy stuff? Do you really believe
that there is not a single judge somewhere in this Brave Land, elected
in a good strong Republican jurisdiction (so he doesn't have to worry
about next year), that would hear the case?

Do you really believe that not only the Republican National Committee,
to say nothing of the Democratic National Committee and those
political neophytes, the Clintons, are somehow partners in a cover up?

Or do you believe it just might be possible that the reason the courts
haven't disqualified the President is because there isn't any
evidence, that will stand the light of day, to support these fantastic
theories.

Regards,

J.B.
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:32:52 +0700, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:22:01 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:00:35 +0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:11:20 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:49:41 -0500, Ned Simmons wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:52:20 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:
.

Conclusion:
When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a
British passport or an Indonesian passport.

Imagine my surprise that Snopes has seen this as well...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp


So which passport did he use?

Gunner


A far more interesting question is: "If there is even a tiny chance
that you are correct why has there not been a concentrated effort by
the Republican Party to obtain this information?"

One would tend to believe that if it were possible to prove that an
election of a Democrat President was fraudulently that the Republicans
would want it publicized. Wouldn't one?


Have any idea how many times this question has been brought to court so
far?

33 times

And it never ever goes to trial or a jury.

Democrats make sure to put up such a fuss...that it is tossed out of
court. generally without "prejudice"...which means it can be opened
again.

And when it is...its again tossed without prejudice..and then again and
again.

Seems no court wants to be the one to upset the apple cart..or be the
first one to find a president there illegally.

Must scare the **** out any judge put in that position.

Gunner

Regards,

J.B.


Do you really believe all this conspiracy stuff? Do you really believe
that there is not a single judge somewhere in this Brave Land, elected
in a good strong Republican jurisdiction (so he doesn't have to worry
about next year), that would hear the case?

Do you really believe that not only the Republican National Committee,
to say nothing of the Democratic National Committee and those
political neophytes, the Clintons, are somehow partners in a cover up?

Or do you believe it just might be possible that the reason the courts
haven't disqualified the President is because there isn't any
evidence, that will stand the light of day, to support these fantastic
theories.

Regards,

J.B.


Time will tell eh. So when will Obama release his original Birth Cert
and his school records?

So far..they are locked securely away from the People.

Any idea why that is?

Hummmm?

Gunner

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I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
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