On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:38:55 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

My computer fried Thursday. The power supply went bonkers and fried the
mother board, or that's what my computer guy said.

Bear with me, and explain a couple of things if you know them.

Can I have the old hard drive taken out and put in my new computer (well, a
used one I had) and use the computer with the two hard drives? They both
have XP.

Yes. However....only the XP on one or the other may be used. Standard
computers can have up to 4 hard drives installed. With some special
cards..one can have up to 8 or 12 running on board..but Id be sure
there was a seperate powersupply running anything over 4.

I'm trying to configure my e mail. I have OE. I have been able to figure
out the newsgroups, but can't get the e mail going. My ISP provider has
been no help, and is about to be replaced. When we moved in to this rural
area, there was only one company that would put up a receiver. Now there
are more.

You will need to set up your SMTP server first, then your name and
password. Then you will need to set up the server they use to send
email, if different from the inbound SMTP



This link may help you.

Review it careful several times before changing anything. You can
change it again easily, but why not get it right the first time...

http://www.sfsu.edu/~helpdesk/faq/smtp.html



What is the flow chart of an ISP, a server, an e mail account, etc? How
about the outgoing sockets on the advanced tab? And POP3, SMTP, NNTP, etc?

Going to get on the phone now and get some answers, but just wanted to know
if anyone can give me the short ones.

Steve

You can pull the hard drive, install it as either the primary (boot)
drive or secondary. Getting it to boot from the old drive 'should' work
as long as the systems are fairly similar. Sometimes the Microworst anti
theft things cut in and lock you out but it usually works. Secondary
drive should work fine with no issues. Quite handy to have the extra
storage space.

Some quick definitions
An ISP is the one that provides a physical connection to the web.
An ISP MAY provide a server or just a port to the world.
Your e-mail is on a server (large dedicated fast processor somewhere).
Your ISP may give you one, there is gmail and the big guys, a private
mail server like my neighbor runs, or other options.
The POP, ports and all that are a function of the actual e-mail server
that you are trying to access. The settings used to be fairly simple but
now they are trying to cut down on the spammers and hackers. Only way to
go through that is to get the tech support settings they are requiring.
If you are using the ISP mail server, the ISP tech support MUST give you
that information if you are going to get anything done.

Steve B wrote:
My computer fried Thursday. The power supply went bonkers and fried the
mother board, or that's what my computer guy said.

Bear with me, and explain a couple of things if you know them.

Can I have the old hard drive taken out and put in my new computer (well, a
used one I had) and use the computer with the two hard drives? They both
have XP.

I'm trying to configure my e mail. I have OE. I have been able to figure
out the newsgroups, but can't get the e mail going. My ISP provider has
been no help, and is about to be replaced. When we moved in to this rural
area, there was only one company that would put up a receiver. Now there
are more.

What is the flow chart of an ISP, a server, an e mail account, etc? How
about the outgoing sockets on the advanced tab? And POP3, SMTP, NNTP, etc?

Going to get on the phone now and get some answers, but just wanted to know
if anyone can give me the short ones.

Steve

My computer fried Thursday. The power supply went bonkers and fried the
mother board, or that's what my computer guy said.

Bear with me, and explain a couple of things if you know them.

Can I have the old hard drive taken out and put in my new computer (well, a
used one I had) and use the computer with the two hard drives? They both
have XP.

I'm trying to configure my e mail. I have OE. I have been able to figure
out the newsgroups, but can't get the e mail going. My ISP provider has
been no help, and is about to be replaced. When we moved in to this rural
area, there was only one company that would put up a receiver. Now there
are more.

What is the flow chart of an ISP, a server, an e mail account, etc? How
about the outgoing sockets on the advanced tab? And POP3, SMTP, NNTP, etc?

Going to get on the phone now and get some answers, but just wanted to know
if anyone can give me the short ones.

Steve

On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:38:55 -0800, Steve B wrote:

My computer fried Thursday. The power supply went bonkers and fried the
mother board, or that's what my computer guy said.

Bear with me, and explain a couple of things if you know them.

Can I have the old hard drive taken out and put in my new computer
(well, a used one I had) and use the computer with the two hard drives?
They both have XP.

What Gunner and Roy said, but: if your power supply took out your mother
board it may well have taken out your hard drive, too -- you'll want to
check it. Chances are very low that a broken hard drive will take out a
power supply, but nothing is 100% sure with repair work. If you have an
old 'trash' computer lying around that you can shove the hard drive into
and give it a whirl, that'd be best.

I'm trying to configure my e mail. I have OE. I have been able to
figure out the newsgroups, but can't get the e mail going. My ISP
provider has been no help, and is about to be replaced. When we moved
in to this rural area, there was only one company that would put up a
receiver. Now there are more.

What is the flow chart of an ISP, a server, an e mail account, etc? How
about the outgoing sockets on the advanced tab? And POP3, SMTP, NNTP,
etc?

I can't rememmberrrrrrrrr!

From Thunderbird, for my setup, I have:
Server Type: POP (this is most common; I've never had an ISP that wanted
something different)
Server Name: mail.yourISP.com
User Name: usually your email address, but sometimes a special login name
Port: 110

Somewhere you'll have to put in a password as well.

Going to get on the phone now and get some answers, but just wanted to
know if anyone can give me the short ones.

Always be sensitive to the desires of your vendors, particularly when
they're sending out signals that they really don't want you as a
customer. If they aren't hopping on this problem for you, it means that
they're tired of making money, and they would rather have some peace and
quiet. If this is the case, and if those alternative providers look any
good, go ahead and change.

--
www.wescottdesign.com

On Nov 23, 10:38�am, "Steve B" wrote:
My computer fried Thursday. �The power supply went bonkers and fried the
mother board, or that's what my computer guy said.

Steve


Steve

Rarely have I found a "fried" computer component when one is presented
to me as fried. I do a lot of electronic repair. Perhaps a single
component. Do as another suggested by separately triyng each component
in another computer. I have been using a computer with nothing but
fried components for several years.

Replace your Computer Guy. He is probably trying to simply sell you
something(s) because he is too lazy or inept to diagnose the problem.
Most computer guys are. I am simply too cheap to do this.

A case in point. My SIL asked me too look at her computer that was
"fried". It was simply locked up after a bad hit on the power line. I
restarted and rebooted several times and all is well after 5 years.

Bob AZ

On Nov 23, 12:38*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
...

Can I have the old hard drive taken out and put in my new computer (well, a
used one I had) and use the computer with the two hard drives? *They both
have XP.

I'm trying to configure my e mail. *I have OE. *I have been able to figure
out the newsgroups, but can't get the e mail going.....

Steve

You could try moving the hard drive with XP but each installation
customizes itself to the hardware it finds and they don't take well to
changes afterwards. A similar motherboard from the same maker ought to
work. A different hard disk controller might not even allow booting
because Plug&Play won't identify it until the operating system has
loaded, Catch-22

And then XP checks for radical changes to hinder the cloning of one
validated installation onto multiple PCs and it may not activate, or
give you a month to obtain a legal license.

You can generally run up to 4 internal drives, one master and one
slave on both the primary and secondary IDE cables, assuming the case
is large enough and the motherboard has both slots. The BIOS tries to
boot from the first drive in its boot sequence. If it can't, it tries
the next one in the list, etc.

I don't know about SATA, my PCs are all too old.

My gaming and HDTV desktop has a swappable enclosure containing the
bootable hard drive(s) as Master and the DVD drive as Slave on the
primary IDE cable and a larger hard drive, IIRC set to Cable Select,
for programs and videos on the secondary IDE cable.

The Internet desktop has most programs installed on a larger external
USB drive that was originally internal and still contains a non-
functioning installation of the operating system.

Open up Administrative Tools Computer Management Disk Management
and you can examine the drives and partitions.

I can't help you with OE, I use several free web email services, which
are easy to access from client's computers without any setup. That's a
large part of why I post through Google Groups, too.

jsw

On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:11:36 -0800, Bob AZ wrote:

On Nov 23, 10:38�am, "Steve B" wrote:
My computer fried Thursday. �The power supply went bonkers and fried
the mother board, or that's what my computer guy said.

Steve


Steve

Rarely have I found a "fried" computer component when one is presented
to me as fried. I do a lot of electronic repair. Perhaps a single
component. Do as another suggested by separately triyng each component
in another computer. I have been using a computer with nothing but fried
components for several years.

Replace your Computer Guy. He is probably trying to simply sell you
something(s) because he is too lazy or inept to diagnose the problem.
Most computer guys are. I am simply too cheap to do this.

A case in point. My SIL asked me too look at her computer that was
"fried". It was simply locked up after a bad hit on the power line. I
restarted and rebooted several times and all is well after 5 years.

OMG. It took FIVE YEARS of rebooting before all was well?

Wow. Now _that's_ persistence.

:-)

--
www.wescottdesign.com

In article ,
"Steve B" wrote:

My computer fried Thursday. The power supply went bonkers and fried the
mother board, or that's what my computer guy said.

Bear with me, and explain a couple of things if you know them.

Can I have the old hard drive taken out and put in my new computer (well, a
used one I had) and use the computer with the two hard drives? They both
have XP.

I'm trying to configure my e mail. I have OE. I have been able to figure
out the newsgroups, but can't get the e mail going. My ISP provider has
been no help, and is about to be replaced. When we moved in to this rural
area, there was only one company that would put up a receiver. Now there
are more.

What is the flow chart of an ISP, a server, an e mail account, etc? How
about the outgoing sockets on the advanced tab? And POP3, SMTP, NNTP, etc?

Going to get on the phone now and get some answers, but just wanted to know
if anyone can give me the short ones.

Steve

First I'm a Mac user, and can't help you with 'OE' 'XP' and all the
Billyware stuff.

However, after having to change ISP's (and email addresses) 3 times one
year, I switched to a Gmail account, and IMAP it to my home machine mail
application (Apple's 'Mail'). It can also be POP'ed and SMPT'ed if you
like.

Works great! Been using it exclusively since August 05! In this whole
time, it's only been down once (that I know of)... and then only for
about a half hour.

Gives me the flexibility to easily do mail 'on the road' from any
machine connected the internet, the ability to dump ISP's at will
without having to change my email address, plus I'm still using a real
mail program on my home machine.

I also have any number of PDF manuals, charts, tables and and the like
stored up in Gmail that are accessible most anywhere anytime.

Just my .02¢ worth... If you do choose to use Gmail, use a good
password, and be sure to always use the sign out feature if accessing
from machines other than your own.

Erik

On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:38:55 -0800, Steve B wrote:

My computer fried Thursday. The power supply went bonkers and fried the
mother board, or that's what my computer guy said.
....
Can I have the old hard drive taken out and put in my new computer
(well, a used one I had) and use the computer with the two hard drives?
They both have XP.
....

If the old hard drive is ok (seems likely, but see other posts)
and if it's a SATA drive (or if the new computer has PATA as well
as SATA connectors, or you add on a PATA adapter), you should be
able to install the old drive in the new computer, alongside the
new drive. XP should recognize it and assign the next available
drive letter, perhaps D:, E:, F: ...

SATA drives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SATA) use a smaller
connector (7 pins and wires) and thinner cable than PATA drives
(40 pins, 40 or 80 wires). See pictures in above link and in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA.

--
jiw

On Nov 23, 12:38*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
My computer fried Thursday. *The power supply went bonkers and fried the
mother board, or that's what my computer guy said.

Bear with me, and explain a couple of things if you know them.

Can I have the old hard drive taken out and put in my new computer (well, a
used one I had) and use the computer with the two hard drives? *They both
have XP.

I'm trying to configure my e mail. *I have OE. *I have been able to figure
out the newsgroups, but can't get the e mail going. *My ISP provider has
been no help, and is about to be replaced. *When we moved in to this rural
area, there was only one company that would put up a receiver. *Now there
are more.

What is the flow chart of an ISP, a server, an e mail account, etc? *How
about the outgoing sockets on the advanced tab? *And POP3, SMTP, NNTP, etc?

Going to get on the phone now and get some answers, but just wanted to know
if anyone can give me the short ones.

Steve

Step-by-step instructions (from YOUR ISP) are he

http://wildblueworld.com/dishmail.ne...pressemail.php

You'll start at step 2 (which is actually configuring outlook express.

On Nov 23, 5:38*pm, "Steve B" wrote:

Can I have the old hard drive taken out and put in my new computer (well, a
used one I had) and use the computer with the two hard drives? *They both
have XP.
Steve

You can have your old hard drive in your new computer, but it may not
be worthwhile. Your new computer probably has a hard drive that is
much bigger than your old one and the new drive is also probably a lot
faster.

Tom's Hardware . com is a good place to get up to date info. In one
of the fairly recent articles they seem to like the Samsung Spinpoint
F3. Fast, low power. You can get a 500 gigabyte Samsung Spinpoint F3
at Newegg for $55. Or one twice is large for $85.

Dan

"Bob AZ" wrote in message
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On Nov 23, 10:38?am, "Steve B" wrote:
My computer fried Thursday. ?The power supply went bonkers and fried the
mother board, or that's what my computer guy said.

Steve


Steve

Rarely have I found a "fried" computer component when one is presented
to me as fried. I do a lot of electronic repair. Perhaps a single
component. Do as another suggested by separately triyng each component
in another computer. I have been using a computer with nothing but
fried components for several years.

Replace your Computer Guy. He is probably trying to simply sell you
something(s) because he is too lazy or inept to diagnose the problem.
Most computer guys are. I am simply too cheap to do this.

A case in point. My SIL asked me too look at her computer that was
"fried". It was simply locked up after a bad hit on the power line. I
restarted and rebooted several times and all is well after 5 years.

Bob AZ

reply: I didn't present this as "fried", just that I turned it on, it made
a ZAP! noise, a whiff of ozone/melted plastic, and then it wouldn't work.

My computer guy is competent. I've used him for years, and in other
situations, he's the kind of guy who says, "You CAN replace this, but it
doesn't need it." He has always fixed my stuff, and it has worked, and at
times, it was less money than I expected. He makes house calls. I have
taken A+ training, and I believe a computer business man knows how to
diagnose a power supply or motherboard in a few simple steps. I know most
any electricital geek could do it with just a multiprobe.

Steve

Just spent nearly an hour on the phone with my ISP. Got on Logmein.com, and
he watched my screen. Still had problems. Then he said I had 2,500 power
interruptions in the last 21 days, so he was sending a guy out to check the
antenna and connectors. So, I guess it is a combination of things.

Steve

Steve B wrote:
My computer fried Thursday. The power supply went bonkers and fried the
mother board, or that's what my computer guy said.

Bear with me, and explain a couple of things if you know them.

Can I have the old hard drive taken out and put in my new computer (well, a
used one I had) and use the computer with the two hard drives? They both
have XP.

If the power supply generated excessive voltage on the +5 or +12 V
lines, then the hard drive is probably fried, too. Possibly, the good
head-disk assembly could be combined with a good circuit board from the
same make/model drive and the data read off. This is getting into
serious geek territory.

Jon

Bob AZ wrote:

Rarely have I found a "fried" computer component when one is presented
to me as fried. I do a lot of electronic repair. Perhaps a single
component. Do as another suggested by separately triyng each component
in another computer. I have been using a computer with nothing but
fried components for several years.
I got one! One day I came in to work and a computer there was powered
off. I figured there'd been a power outage in the building and tried to
power it on, but it wouldn't go. The fans would turn one blade and then
back to off. I replaced the power supply, SAME thing! I then found
there was a jumper on the MB to turn power on permanently (I guess it
disabled the ATX remote power control.) It powered up, then I smelled
the "bad smell". The main motherboard system chip now had a burned spot
on it!

So, it CAN happen, this was not caused by the power supply, but a failed
chip. Now, I HAVE seen some computers "cooked" by a failed power supply
fan that let the entire system bake without ventilation for days.
Another thing "going around" is the bum capacitor deal. A couple year's
supply of electrolytic capacitors used on motherboards were made poorly
and failed after 1-3 years of operation. We've had some of those here
at work. I repaired one by replacing the caps with ones I got off eBay,
there are guys selling capacitor replacement kits for exactly this
problem. The first thing I heard about this one was on the NPR business
news radio show that Dell was taking something like a $50 million charge
against earnings to cover the warranty replacements on these MB's.

Jon

I live in a semi rural area. Power surges, and lightning strikes can be a
major problem. I have seen computers with exploded components from the power
supply to the hard drive. In one case only one dim survived, because a dim
with more memory took the hit! Path of least resistance I guess. The
capacitors in the power supply exploded, chips on the motherboard and drives
had pieces of plastic blown out, and there were signs of fire. That was from
a lightening strike on nearby power lines.

Steve R.

On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:31:07 -0800, "Steve R."
wrote:

I live in a semi rural area. Power surges, and lightning strikes can be a
major problem. I have seen computers with exploded components from the power
supply to the hard drive. In one case only one dim survived, because a dim
with more memory took the hit! Path of least resistance I guess. The
capacitors in the power supply exploded, chips on the motherboard and drives
had pieces of plastic blown out, and there were signs of fire. That was from
a lightening strike on nearby power lines.

The only solution for that is several layers of high-powered
lightning arrestors on the incoming power line to snub the pulses,
starting with getting your local power utility to beef up their
arrestor systems.

They get blown up transformers and nuisance-blown fuses too, so it's
in their best interest to clamp and dissipate the surges as far from
your house as possible. Atr the transmission and distribution
voltages, and on the pole at the output of the service transformer
feeding your house.

You need to add a beefy whole-house arrestor at the service
entrance, and seriously beef up your ground rod to a multiple rod
system - if the soil is real bad (low conductivity sand) even a ring
of 4/0 bare copper buried all the way around the house with a ground
rod every 20'. And start watering the lawn more, get the ground
resistance down.

Then you put arrestors on the major electronics devices in the
house, in case a pulse gets past the other defenses.

-- Bruce --

Sounds like you need a high quality UPS that you run on batteries all the time
and the AC keeps them charged. More protection that way and a high quality
surge and spike / RF protection.

If you tap off power lines at the end of the line - e.g. like to the house pole
that has a transformer for 'end users'.
This can be the capture point from the power line feeder lines.

I have 1500' of 2 phase high voltage lines - at the terminal end I have
two dummy transformers - they were old ones in the yard - power company deal.
My House transformer is 150' from the end and the shop is about in the middle.
The transient traverses down the line from the same lines down the highway.
It slams into the end and down into a transformer that has a primary only
connected. Without a load (can have a transient suppressor instead)
the pulses reflect off the high impedance end, doubling in amplitude and
return down towards the source. If the house is on the end (a foot is
better than not) the house is the sink for all evil on the line.
Switch gear (switching transformers adjusting the voltage) and trees....


Martin (I have two on this two computer cluster and wireless server.)


Steve R. wrote:
I live in a semi rural area. Power surges, and lightning strikes can be a
major problem. I have seen computers with exploded components from the power
supply to the hard drive. In one case only one dim survived, because a dim
with more memory took the hit! Path of least resistance I guess. The
capacitors in the power supply exploded, chips on the motherboard and drives
had pieces of plastic blown out, and there were signs of fire. That was from
a lightening strike on nearby power lines.

Steve R.

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:32:13 -0800, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:31:07 -0800, "Steve R."
wrote:

I live in a semi rural area. Power surges, and lightning strikes can be a
major problem. I have seen computers with exploded components from the power
supply to the hard drive. In one case only one dim survived, because a dim
with more memory took the hit! Path of least resistance I guess. The
capacitors in the power supply exploded, chips on the motherboard and drives
had pieces of plastic blown out, and there were signs of fire. That was from
a lightening strike on nearby power lines.

The only solution for that is several layers of high-powered
lightning arrestors on the incoming power line to snub the pulses,
starting with getting your local power utility to beef up their
arrestor systems.

They get blown up transformers and nuisance-blown fuses too, so it's
in their best interest to clamp and dissipate the surges as far from
your house as possible. Atr the transmission and distribution
voltages, and on the pole at the output of the service transformer
feeding your house.

You need to add a beefy whole-house arrestor at the service
entrance, and seriously beef up your ground rod to a multiple rod
system - if the soil is real bad (low conductivity sand) even a ring
of 4/0 bare copper buried all the way around the house with a ground
rod every 20'. And start watering the lawn more, get the ground
resistance down.

Then you put arrestors on the major electronics devices in the
house, in case a pulse gets past the other defenses.

-- Bruce --


Just get a good DUAL CONMVERSION UPS and put it on a good Surge
protector. Not much gets through a goodPowerware Prestige UPS.

"Bruce L. Bergman" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:31:07 -0800, "Steve R."
wrote:

I live in a semi rural area. Power surges, and lightning strikes can be a
major problem. I have seen computers with exploded components from the
power
supply to the hard drive. In one case only one dim survived, because a dim
with more memory took the hit! Path of least resistance I guess. The
capacitors in the power supply exploded, chips on the motherboard and
drives
had pieces of plastic blown out, and there were signs of fire. That was
from
a lightening strike on nearby power lines.

The only solution for that is several layers of high-powered
lightning arrestors on the incoming power line to snub the pulses,
starting with getting your local power utility to beef up their
arrestor systems.

They get blown up transformers and nuisance-blown fuses too, so it's
in their best interest to clamp and dissipate the surges as far from
your house as possible. Atr the transmission and distribution
voltages, and on the pole at the output of the service transformer
feeding your house.

You need to add a beefy whole-house arrestor at the service
entrance, and seriously beef up your ground rod to a multiple rod
system - if the soil is real bad (low conductivity sand) even a ring
of 4/0 bare copper buried all the way around the house with a ground
rod every 20'. And start watering the lawn more, get the ground
resistance down.

Then you put arrestors on the major electronics devices in the
house, in case a pulse gets past the other defenses.

-- Bruce --

Wasn't my house, or my computer.

Steve R.

"Steve R." wrote in message
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"Bruce L. Bergman" wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:31:07 -0800, "Steve R."
wrote:

I live in a semi rural area. Power surges, and lightning strikes can be a
major problem. I have seen computers with exploded components from the
power


you know, if you want real good isolation from these transients, use an
electric motor powering an AC generator - the efficiency is quite good (not
perfect, but in the 95% range) and there is complete isolation of your house
power from the external AC - particularly if you connect the two with a
non-conductive coupler that is a few inches long, and you ground the two
separately to separate ground rods, it would take a particularly pernicious
lightning strike to jump to the house.

On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:49:36 -0800, "Bill Noble"
wrote:



"Steve R." wrote in message
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"Bruce L. Bergman" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:31:07 -0800, "Steve R."
wrote:

I live in a semi rural area. Power surges, and lightning strikes can be a
major problem. I have seen computers with exploded components from the
power


you know, if you want real good isolation from these transients, use an
electric motor powering an AC generator - the efficiency is quite good (not
perfect, but in the 95% range) and there is complete isolation of your house
power from the external AC - particularly if you connect the two with a
non-conductive coupler that is a few inches long, and you ground the two
separately to separate ground rods, it would take a particularly pernicious
lightning strike to jump to the house.

You could also build your house inside a giant faraday cage - but
nobody would.

I repeat... If you are in a high-lightning area beef up the bonding
and grounding, and add a good whole house surge arrestor. Especially
if you have already been bitten once.

And get the local utility to beef up their surge arrestors on the
power line feding the house. (Because they REALLY don't want you
climbing the pole and messing with the 2400/4800/9600V feeder...)

-- Bruce --

"Bill Noble" wrote:


you know, if you want real good isolation from these transients, use an
electric motor powering an AC generator - the efficiency is quite good (not
perfect, but in the 95% range) and there is complete isolation of your house
power from the external AC - particularly if you connect the two with a
non-conductive coupler that is a few inches long,

This does work quite well for HV isolation. I have worked on some
100KV ion implanters, that used this method (with a 1 meter lexan
shaft) to provide power to the HV terminal equipment.

and you ground the two
separately to separate ground rods,

That is a meaningless effort, there is effectively no such thing as
an "isolated" ground rod, and it wouldn't do you any good if there
were. The whole POINT of the ground rod is to tie everything to a
common equipotential reference.

As well, the NEC (for an Installation in the US) would require you to
bond the two rods together anyway.

"All grounding electrodes as described in 250.52(A)(1) through (A)(6)
that are present at each building or structure served shall be bonded
together to form the grounding electrode system"

and the rod would not (IMO) be considered "supplementary", which would
exclude the allowance of Section 250.54

it would take a particularly pernicious
lightning strike to jump to the house.

True, BUT, the galvanic isolation is not the only concern.
I f the current takes a path through your "motor conductors" you can
couple significant amounts of current to parallel conductors via
transformer action, if those conductors run parallel to, and close to
your house conductors.

Also I have been told that your phone lines are another frequent
source of lightning current entry into your house, for locations where
lightning is a big problem. {and then from your phone
equipment/fax/computer (does anyone still use dialup???) to your power
line.

jk