My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The
bottle contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of
bottle, spray fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered,
and would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some
common air tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint
guns, as well as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is
something more suitable. The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way
too much fuel.

i

"Ignoramus24053" wrote in message
...
My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The
bottle contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of
bottle, spray fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered,
and would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some
common air tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint
guns, as well as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is
something more suitable. The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way
too much fuel.

i


No - but have you seen the mushroom clouds you can make with a flour /
sawdust cannon & an ignition source. Check out mythbusters.

On 2009-09-14, Polyp wrote:

"Ignoramus24053" wrote in message
...
My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The
bottle contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of
bottle, spray fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered,
and would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some
common air tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint
guns, as well as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is
something more suitable. The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way
too much fuel.

i


No - but have you seen the mushroom clouds you can make with a flour /
sawdust cannon & an ignition source. Check out mythbusters.


That's much scarier than I would like to do with the kids around.

The police is only a mile away from me.

But it is totally awesome. Check this one out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvPL7KC1DEA&NR=1

i

"Ignoramus24053" wrote in message
...
My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The
bottle contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of
bottle, spray fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered,
and would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some
common air tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint
guns, as well as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is
something more suitable. The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way
too much fuel.

i

How about:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=65297

Best Regards
Tom.

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:40:48 -0500, the infamous Ignoramus24053
scrawled the following:

My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The
bottle contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of
bottle, spray fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

Is this such a good idea, parentally, Ig? While a single session
might be fun and instructional, excesses can potentially breed
firebugs.


I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered,
and would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some
common air tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint
guns, as well as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is
something more suitable. The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way
too much fuel.

You could always meter the fuel supply with an orifice in the tube.

P.S: The old can of hairspray is always dangerous and fun. I've never
seen one blow, but the possibility exists. I sure wouldn't want to be
around it when it went.

P.P.S: Got good insurance?

--
"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of
ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."
-- Thomas Jefferson

Ignoramus24053 wrote:
My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The
bottle contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of
bottle, spray fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered,
and would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some
common air tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint
guns, as well as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is
something more suitable. The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way
too much fuel.

awesome. spray fuel all over the place (and kids) and get "little
fireballs".

"Larry Jaques" wrote
:
: P.S: The old can of hairspray is always dangerous and fun. I've never
: seen one blow, but the possibility exists. I sure wouldn't want to be
: around it when it went.

We used to do this with cans of Right Guard deodorant when I was
in a dorm back in college. We stopped when a chem major told us
that one of the combustion byproducts was phosgene(sp?) a very
potent nerve gas.
I'm not sure if hairspray also generates it.
Art

Larry Jaques wrote:
....
P.S: The old can of hairspray is always dangerous and fun. I've never
seen one blow, but the possibility exists. ...

I don't think so - there's no oxygen in the can. And the exit velocity
of the hairspray is much higher than that of the flame front. Bob

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:40:48 -0500, Ignoramus24053 wrote:

My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The bottle
contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of bottle, spray
fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered, and
would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some common air
tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint guns, as well
as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is something more suitable.
The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way too much fuel.

disclaimer
Don't do this. If you do, you take full responsibility for any injury
or death to your and/or your kids, and any fires that may burn down your
house.
/disclaimer

If you insist on doing it, you can just use a tube dipped into the liquid,
and blow the air gun over the top of it, sucking up the fuel by the
Venturi effect. You could probably slap together some kluge for this
in a few minutes in your shop.

disclaimer
Don't do this. If you do, you take full responsibility for any injury
or death to your and/or your kids, and any fires that may burn down your
house.
/disclaimer

Have Fun!
Rich

I am not too worried about the kids. They will be standing behind at a
fair distance etc. Of all things, diesel fuel is a relatively safe
substance.

i

On 2009-09-14, Rich Grise wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:40:48 -0500, Ignoramus24053 wrote:

My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The bottle
contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of bottle, spray
fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered, and
would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some common air
tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint guns, as well
as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is something more suitable.
The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way too much fuel.

disclaimer
Don't do this. If you do, you take full responsibility for any injury
or death to your and/or your kids, and any fires that may burn down your
house.
/disclaimer

If you insist on doing it, you can just use a tube dipped into the liquid,
and blow the air gun over the top of it, sucking up the fuel by the
Venturi effect. You could probably slap together some kluge for this
in a few minutes in your shop.

disclaimer
Don't do this. If you do, you take full responsibility for any injury
or death to your and/or your kids, and any fires that may burn down your
house.
/disclaimer

Have Fun!
Rich

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:39:43 -0500, Ignoramus24053
wrote:

I am not too worried about the kids. They will be standing behind at a
fair distance etc. Of all things, diesel fuel is a relatively safe
substance.

i

When I was a kid we had 3000 gal tanks of av gas and car gas. One of
my favorite tricks was to light a regular food can full of gas out in
the oyster shell apron where the crop dusters turned around, then
shoot it in the bottom with a .22. Similar results to the youtube bit
if you hit it in the center bottom.

It took my kids many years to figure out why I always was one step
ahead of their pranks.

Pete Keillor

On 2009-09-14, Rich Grise wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:40:48 -0500, Ignoramus24053 wrote:

My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The bottle
contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of bottle, spray
fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered, and
would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some common air
tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint guns, as well
as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is something more suitable.
The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way too much fuel.

disclaimer
Don't do this. If you do, you take full responsibility for any injury
or death to your and/or your kids, and any fires that may burn down your
house.
/disclaimer

If you insist on doing it, you can just use a tube dipped into the liquid,
and blow the air gun over the top of it, sucking up the fuel by the
Venturi effect. You could probably slap together some kluge for this
in a few minutes in your shop.

disclaimer
Don't do this. If you do, you take full responsibility for any injury
or death to your and/or your kids, and any fires that may burn down your
house.
/disclaimer

Have Fun!
Rich

On 2009-09-14, Pete Keillor wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:39:43 -0500, Ignoramus24053
wrote:

I am not too worried about the kids. They will be standing behind at a
fair distance etc. Of all things, diesel fuel is a relatively safe
substance.

i

When I was a kid we had 3000 gal tanks of av gas and car gas. One of
my favorite tricks was to light a regular food can full of gas out in
the oyster shell apron where the crop dusters turned around, then
shoot it in the bottom with a .22. Similar results to the youtube bit
if you hit it in the center bottom.

Now imagine the fun of hitting the 3000 gallon tank with a 122 mm mortar.

It took my kids many years to figure out why I always was one step
ahead of their pranks.

Ack

i

On 2009-09-14, azotic wrote:

"Ignoramus24053" wrote in message
...
My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The
bottle contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of
bottle, spray fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered,
and would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some
common air tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint
guns, as well as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is
something more suitable. The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way
too much fuel.

i

How about:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=65297

Best Regards
Tom.



these are complete junk.

i

Ignoramus24053 wrote:

My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The
bottle contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of
bottle, spray fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered,
and would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some
common air tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint
guns, as well as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is
something more suitable. The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way
too much fuel.

i

I expect you could get interesting results feeding diesel fuel through
your heated pressure washer...

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:19:37 -0400, the infamous Bob Engelhardt
scrawled the following:

Larry Jaques wrote:
...
P.S: The old can of hairspray is always dangerous and fun. I've never
seen one blow, but the possibility exists. ...

I don't think so - there's no oxygen in the can. And the exit velocity
of the hairspray is much higher than that of the flame front. Bob

I recall newspaper articles (maybe since I was 12?) regarding deaths
and burns, but I knew noone personally who died or was roasted as a
result. shrug Ask your local fire inspector, eh?

--
"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of
ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."
-- Thomas Jefferson

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:08:41 -0400, Gerald Miller
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:04:54 GMT, "Artemus"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote
:
: P.S: The old can of hairspray is always dangerous and fun. I've never
: seen one blow, but the possibility exists. I sure wouldn't want to be
: around it when it went.

We used to do this with cans of Right Guard deodorant when I was
in a dorm back in college. We stopped when a chem major told us
that one of the combustion byproducts was phosgene(sp?) a very
potent nerve gas.
I'm not sure if hairspray also generates it.
Art

Didja ever try spraying WD40 through an electric weed whacker while it
was trying to run?
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada


Sigh...once. I Had to put it out with a hose... looking outside and
seeing her waving a burning and melting weed eater around like a
****ing baton.

Then I had to buy a new weed wacker.

Wives are not very smart about some things.....



Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:46:20 +0800, Polyp wrote:
"Ignoramus24053" wrote in message
...
My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The
bottle contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of
bottle, spray fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered, and
would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some common air
tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint guns, as
well as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is something more
suitable. The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way too much fuel.

No - but have you seen the mushroom clouds you can make with a flour /
sawdust cannon & an ignition source. Check out mythbusters.

When I was about 7 YO, my brother (about 12 YO) did this with a 1-pound
coffee can, a birthday candle, and the hose from the "hot water bottle".
It blew off the coffee can lid. He did this in the dining room. ;-)

In Minnesota, there are farm co-ops with HUGE grain elevators, that look
like about a half-dozen silos side-by-side, like this:
http://static.flickr.com/94/267535868_2b756f1476_o.jpg
(the stairway shows the scale).

Every few years or so, there's a grain dust explosion in one of them, that
kills from a few to a half-dozen people.

Cheers!
Rich

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:29:14 -0500, Ignoramus24053 wrote:

But it is totally awesome. Check this one out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvPL7KC1DEA&NR=1

What's the thing that looks like a propane tank?

Thanks,
Rich

On 2009-09-15, Rich Grise wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:29:14 -0500, Ignoramus24053 wrote:

But it is totally awesome. Check this one out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvPL7KC1DEA&NR=1

What's the thing that looks like a propane tank?

It holds compressed air.

i

Ignoramus11401 wrote:
On 2009-09-15, RBnDFW wrote:
Ignoramus24053 wrote:
My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The
bottle contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of
bottle, spray fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered,
and would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some
common air tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint
guns, as well as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is
something more suitable. The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way
too much fuel.

i

I have one made by Milton that is a standard item at any auto parts store.
You would need to reduce the output with an orifice in the feed tube.

Are you talking about a engine washer?

It is often used for that. It's the one that looks like a brass blowgun
with a siphon hose under the nozzle.

S157 Milton

http://www.tooltopia.com/index.asp?P...googlebase_18u

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:27:12 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:08:41 -0400, Gerald Miller
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:04:54 GMT, "Artemus"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote
:
: P.S: The old can of hairspray is always dangerous and fun. I've never
: seen one blow, but the possibility exists. I sure wouldn't want to be
: around it when it went.

We used to do this with cans of Right Guard deodorant when I was
in a dorm back in college. We stopped when a chem major told us
that one of the combustion byproducts was phosgene(sp?) a very
potent nerve gas.
I'm not sure if hairspray also generates it.
Art

Didja ever try spraying WD40 through an electric weed whacker while it
was trying to run?
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada


Sigh...once. I Had to put it out with a hose... looking outside and
seeing her waving a burning and melting weed eater around like a
****ing baton.

Then I had to buy a new weed wacker.

Wives are not very smart about some things.....

Neither was I!
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

On 2009-09-15, RBnDFW wrote:
Ignoramus11401 wrote:
On 2009-09-15, RBnDFW wrote:
Ignoramus24053 wrote:
My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The
bottle contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of
bottle, spray fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered,
and would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some
common air tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint
guns, as well as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is
something more suitable. The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way
too much fuel.

i

I have one made by Milton that is a standard item at any auto parts store.
You would need to reduce the output with an orifice in the feed tube.

Are you talking about a engine washer?

It is often used for that. It's the one that looks like a brass blowgun
with a siphon hose under the nozzle.

S157 Milton

http://www.tooltopia.com/index.asp?P...googlebase_18u

I found a Harbor Freight engine cleaning gun and tried it. (first with
water to look at the shape of the stream). It sprayed water quite
vigorously. However, when I sprayed diesel fuel, a regular propane
torch would not ignite it. I am not willing to go with anything more
volatile than diesel fuel, so I will have to try to find something
that atomizes fuel better, like a paint gun.

i

In article ,
Ignoramus24053 wrote:

My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The
bottle contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of
bottle, spray fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered,
and would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some
common air tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint
guns, as well as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is
something more suitable. The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way
too much fuel.

I did something like this as a teenager. I had an old insecticide
sprayer, the kind that one pressurized by means of a built-in hand pump,
that I filled with gasoline. The tank was made of galvanized steel and
the wand and nozzle were made of brass. The hose was oil-resistant
rubber. Many insecticides are oil based.

I tied a bit of cotton rag to the nozzle with wire, dipped it in
gasoline, and lit it. Whenever I turned the spray on, I got an intense
fireball about 18" in diameter (if the nozzle was set for wide spray) or
a flamethrower effect (if set for a stream). The heat radiation from
the fireball was such that one had to dress as if for welding, although
goggles were not needed.

I used it as a weedburner. But only when the vegetation was a bit damp.

So, you are all wondering why didn't the sprayer explode or the nozzle
melt or something. Easy - the nozzle was cooled by the liquid gasoline
it was being fed by. I got the idea from articles on how the V2 rocket
engine worked. Nor could the flame propagate through liquid gasoline,
for lack of air, and because the liquid has considerable cooling
ability. The gas-air mix in the tank was thus inaccessible.

But the fireball sure worried the neighbors.

Joe Gwinn

Ignoramus11401 wrote:
I am not willing to go with anything more
volatile than diesel fuel, so I will have to try to find something
that atomizes fuel better, like a paint gun.

Why would you not use an atomizer nozzle from an oil burner with an
air-over-fuel pressurizer?

Kevin Gallimore

On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:54:40 -0400, axolotl wrote:
Ignoramus11401 wrote:
I am not willing to go with anything more
volatile than diesel fuel, so I will have to try to find something that
atomizes fuel better, like a paint gun.

Why would you not use an atomizer nozzle from an oil burner with an
air-over-fuel pressurizer?

He wants it bare-bones simple?

Cheers!
Rich

On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:12:25 -0700, Rich Grise
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:54:40 -0400, axolotl wrote:
Ignoramus11401 wrote:
I am not willing to go with anything more
volatile than diesel fuel, so I will have to try to find something that
atomizes fuel better, like a paint gun.

Why would you not use an atomizer nozzle from an oil burner with an
air-over-fuel pressurizer?

He wants it bare-bones simple?

Babbington Burner. Simple to make, burns darned near anything
liquid (though the really thick stuff should be pre-heated to thin it)
and almost impossible to clog.

-- Bruce --

"Ignoramus24053" wrote in message
...
My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The
bottle contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of
bottle, spray fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered,
and would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some
common air tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint
guns, as well as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is
something more suitable. The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way
too much fuel.

How about an REI multi-fuel camp stove or an old flame gun for heating up
paint? Other alternatives are rather dangerous. But if you want a big
impressive burst of fire, buy a propane roofing torch.

"Polyp" wrote in message
...

"Ignoramus24053" wrote in message
...
My kids and I had fun with a spray bottle and a propane torch. The
bottle contains diesel fuel, so I would hold the torch in front of
bottle, spray fuel and it would erupt in little fireballs.

I would like to find something that would be compressed air powered,
and would spray a jet of atomized fuel. Ideally it would be some
common air tool or a common component. I have for now considered paint
guns, as well as a engine cleaner air gun, but perhaps there is
something more suitable. The engine cleaning guns usually pick up way
too much fuel.

i


No - but have you seen the mushroom clouds you can make with a flour /
sawdust cannon & an ignition source. Check out mythbusters.
or the Special Forces Handbook...