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Ever wind yourself up in the electric drill when drilling a big (over
1/2") hole in metal? I sure did when I had to drill out some 5/8"
holes out to 3/4" in the underside of my broken tractor.


I wrote to HSM in 1996 and asked for ideas. I got a lot of feedback so
Here's a new page on my website that summarizes the responses I got:

http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/Bighole/Bighole.htm


Pete Stanaitis
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Ever wind yourself up in the electric drill when drilling a big (over
1/2") hole in metal? I sure did when I had to drill out some 5/8" holes
out to 3/4" in the underside of my broken tractor.


I wrote to HSM in 1996 and asked for ideas. I got a lot of feedback so
Here's a new page on my website that summarizes the responses I got:

http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/Bighole/Bighole.htm


Some decent ideas, but not too many that would be useful for your actual
problem of opening up an existing 5/8" to 3/4"... If your existing was 3/8"
or something similar, the job is actually easier IMHO.
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Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com
VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill

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"spaco" wrote in message
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Ever wind yourself up in the electric drill when drilling a big (over
1/2") hole in metal? I sure did when I had to drill out some 5/8" holes
out to 3/4" in the underside of my broken tractor.


I wrote to HSM in 1996 and asked for ideas. I got a lot of feedback so
Here's a new page on my website that summarizes the responses I got:

http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/Bighole/Bighole.htm


Some decent ideas, but not too many that would be useful for your actual
problem of opening up an existing 5/8" to 3/4"... If your existing was
3/8" or something similar, the job is actually easier IMHO.
--


Yeah, enlarging 5/8 to 3/4 in a thick piece of steel ought to spin you up in
the air like a maple wing, once the lips on the drill bit grab tight. g

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Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com
VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill

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Yeah, enlarging 5/8 to 3/4 in a thick piece of steel ought to spin you up
in the air like a maple wing, once the lips on the drill bit grab tight.
g


Unless of course you have feed control to make sure it doesn't dig in...

But that's not likely with a hand drill, mag drill, etc.

An AutoDrill has that option, but is slightly out of most people's league
when doing non-production work.
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Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com
VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill

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Yeah, enlarging 5/8 to 3/4 in a thick piece of steel ought to spin you up
in the air like a maple wing, once the lips on the drill bit grab tight.
g


Unless of course you have feed control to make sure it doesn't dig in...

But that's not likely with a hand drill, mag drill, etc.

An AutoDrill has that option, but is slightly out of most people's league
when doing non-production work.


(WARNING! Thinly disguised promotion above! ggg)

See, Joe, you can tell I once did PR for a living. I tossed you a softball,
right over the plate.

Wouldn't you like to have your own professional PR guy on retainer? d8-)

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Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com
VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill

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An AutoDrill has that option, but is slightly out of most people's league
when doing non-production work.


(WARNING! Thinly disguised promotion above! ggg)


Thinly disguised?!? That was blatant and purpose-driven.

See, Joe, you can tell I once did PR for a living. I tossed you a
softball, right over the plate.


Swing batter, batter!

Wouldn't you like to have your own professional PR guy on retainer? d8-)


Would love one. ...some day.

Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com
VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill

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Yeah, enlarging 5/8 to 3/4 in a thick piece of steel ought to spin you up
in the air like a maple wing, once the lips on the drill bit grab tight.
g

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Ed Huntress


A negative rake 3/4 drill from china solves that problem.G

A tool & die maker would use a stub length 3/4 counter bore with a 5/8
pilot installed to open the hole up to 3/4.

Best Regards
Tom.


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"Joe AutoDrill" wrote in message
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An AutoDrill has that option, but is slightly out of most people's
league when doing non-production work.


(WARNING! Thinly disguised promotion above! ggg)


Thinly disguised?!? That was blatant and purpose-driven.

See, Joe, you can tell I once did PR for a living. I tossed you a
softball, right over the plate.


Swing batter, batter!

Wouldn't you like to have your own professional PR guy on retainer? d8-)


Would love one. ...some day.


Inside tip: Don't go for the retainer. Do it project-by-project. Otherwise,
the PR person, if he/she is faithful about doing all they can for you and
what you're paying them, will wind up making a complete pest of
himself/herself (and of you) with the magazines. Then they'll stop answering
your calls. d8-)

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Hmmm. A method that I don't see listed--use a square drive chuck on an
impact wrench. Mine is
a Jacobs 64-J9. Grind the drill for zero rake on the face and have at it.
Used to use this method for
opening up egg shaped mounting holes on hydraulic and air cylinders, and for
taking out shear pin
holes on sprocket drives to the next larger size.


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I was just out the other day and watched a crew putting some new gusset
plates on the el train bridge.
They were running a bridge reamer through the holes with an impact wrench.
One handed operation, overhead.
Brrrrrrap, you got a neat 1" hole.

Paul K. Dickman

"spaco" wrote in message
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Ever wind yourself up in the electric drill when drilling a big (over
1/2") hole in metal? I sure did when I had to drill out some 5/8" holes
out to 3/4" in the underside of my broken tractor.


I wrote to HSM in 1996 and asked for ideas. I got a lot of feedback so
Here's a new page on my website that summarizes the responses I got:

http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/Bighole/Bighole.htm


Pete Stanaitis
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"spaco" wrote in message
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Ever wind yourself up in the electric drill when drilling a big (over
1/2") hole in metal? I sure did when I had to drill out some 5/8" holes
out to 3/4" in the underside of my broken tractor.


I wrote to HSM in 1996 and asked for ideas. I got a lot of feedback so
Here's a new page on my website that summarizes the responses I got:

http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/Bighole/Bighole.htm


Some decent ideas, but not too many that would be useful for your actual
problem of opening up an existing 5/8" to 3/4"... If your existing was 3/8"
or something similar, the job is actually easier IMHO.


Well my solution would probably not make it BUT.
I would make a simple step drill (or buy a large one and grind it down)
the first step would be 5/8" with a taper out to 3/4". Then set up my
Cole drill and drill the hole(s) Simple and easy with a lathe.

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Ever wind yourself up in the electric drill when drilling a big (over
1/2") hole in metal? I sure did when I had to drill out some 5/8" holes
out to 3/4" in the underside of my broken tractor.



Use a hole saw. Hole saw a 2 pieces of hardwood with a 3/4" hole saw and
save the 5/8" OD slugs. Stack the slugs on the pilot drill and use them as
a pilot in the 5/8" hole. Drill slowly with lube.


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NPS thread ( Not NPT ) a nipple and a coupling .

about 1.25 inch . machine this to fit on end of

your hand held electric drill motor .

Machine the coupler to accept loose 3/16" grade 25 balls

just like a BallBearing chucks does . these allow

the coupler to rotate on the nose of drill motor .

Now power the male threaded nipple . turn it with a

Harbor Freight 18VDC cordless ( cut the case off it ,

it gets real small and handy , its only about 1.5" Diam' )


Coupler has a chain sproket , 18VDC cordless has

a smaller #40 chain sprocket .




start drilling , pull trigger on 18VDC cordless to advance

the bit toward the work .

18VDC cordless is on the side of the big drill motor , 18VDC
drives

a tiny chain that drives the coupler , thru a large reduction of
sprockets

( Coupler upper end attached to

drill motor nose but on loose balls , in a race )


couplers bottom side is threaded to nipple


( nipples bottom is a FOOT against workpiece )



Like a MicroStop countersink , the nipple and coupler lower the

drill motor toward the workpiece


Nothing lighter , more compact .


If i were less busy , id sell these .

I will build airplanes . 400 H.P. takeoff power .

pusher props . twin 70" blades .



3 Yamaha or Honda motorcyle engines , with variable intake cam
timimg .

at cruise , they make less than 8 H.P. , but outstanding economy .

for the variable intake cam timimng . Atkinson Cycle !

RAM tuning works fine at 7500 RPM , but you must "tune"

the intakes for the reduced flow !

At high HP , you switch in a bigger diam' set of intake tubes .



On takeoff ( 5 minutes ) , they each produce over a

hundred real H.P. ** at good fuel econo , .

yet at cruise fuel economy is good , intake valves are retarded

closing to make much lower effective compression ratio

for the Atkison cycle ,

Some Engineers wrongly say , aircraft engines need to run

slow to produce HP , at good economy .

But Japaneese created a light weight motor , capable of

over 100 H.P. at much lower fuel consumption , than

any of the much larger competitors , and with

even better economy , at cruise !


You cant match it .. Not Continental , Not Lycoming ,

not Subaru , Not Bombadier . Not even

ZOCHE ! 8 cylinder diesel that has amazing power
to wt and costs more than a new 1 Ton Chevy P.U. !

Perfect Diesel ! Germany ! But costs too much .
www.Zoche.com







If you build airframes with 2024T3 and rivets , it would take

forever ..

But if you use old bicycle technology . Tubes brazed into lugs .

You can inexpensively build an airframe in 10% of the time

with NO precise measurements nor blueprints .

You can make the lugs as you go , cut the tubes , braze

tubes in progressively ..

But once a lug is ready to braze , you cant add anything

to the lug , except by more brazing ( which is strong , but

a kludge )

Airframe is "consistant' from motor mounts , to landing gear .

Its all the same construction . Unlike sheet aluminum

where you need to :


...bring the loads to a stress point : the
landing gear wheels and motor mounts .




If you put too much steel in the lugs , grind it off , fair it

with a 1/4" Die Grinder ! until it looks right .

DIY lugs are hammered from 1/8" steel plate and formed and

MIG'ed and hammered again , til they look right .

MIG tiny lugs and flanges on top , for attaching the cheap aluminum

fairing pieces .

sand down and polish the lugs , so they're

photo graphable , the lathe them in a tiny 7 by 10 lathe

with face plate , to bore out the holes , perfect fit

for the 1.5" steel tude you CRS ( cold rolled yourself to 100kips )


Wings fold forward . Motors can add traction to landing gear

so you can get in the 10 O'Clock news .

Landing gear has 4 main wheels ( free , for cross wind landing )

2 smaller , aft to keep props from digging up the runway .

Props blades are DIY alum , cold forged ( like the inexpensive

crank arms on your mountain bike )




I defy you to build a lighter , stronger , lower cost , in less
time ..
cargo plane that lifts 3000 lbs of payload ..


And you can kit it !

try kitting a alum' skinned airplane . Thats why they sell

Carbon-Fiber airframes !


Engines have allways been the big cost ...
engines are Nikasil plated ( not iron liners ),
never need over pistons/rings ...










BTW STOP using 10-30 wt oil w/ detergent !!

I dont want a plastic monomer to burn and fail in my engine ..
I want the acids and sludge to NOT circulate around my motor .
I dont want to emulsify anything ....
I want the NON-oil to separate and fall to the bottom .
I DONT want a clean shiny bottom surface on my oil pan !
















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