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OK, so we're all fans of Zenni Optical.

BUT

How do we justify buying glasses in China rather than supporting US
businesses? I, personally have had it with $600 glasses that I can buy
from Zenni for fifty bucks, but we're supporting a business in a
country that employs slave labor, has virtually no environmental
regulation, thumbs its nose at copyright and patent protection and
pretty much owns our debt.

Isn't there something wrong with that?

Just askin'
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rangerssuck wrote:
OK, so we're all fans of Zenni Optical.

BUT

How do we justify buying glasses in China rather than supporting US
businesses? I, personally have had it with $600 glasses that I can buy
from Zenni for fifty bucks, but we're supporting a business in a
country that employs slave labor, has virtually no environmental
regulation, thumbs its nose at copyright and patent protection and
pretty much owns our debt.

Isn't there something wrong with that?

Just askin'


Here's my experience.

I bought an examination and prescription from my local
ophthalmologist. Glasses arrive and I try them on.
They were hopeless. All objects in the right eye were universally
out of focus, independent of angle or distance. The left eye had
only one point that was marginally in focus and that was +Y 5° and
+X 5°. Every other point was out of focus. I didn't buy them.

Gave the same prescription to New York based 39Dollarglasses.com.
The glasses arrive and they are perfection. Everything in focus
in both eyes. Plenty of resolution at all angles. A few pairs
later, they drop the ball by failing to ship half my order.

The home team isn't looking too good here. (I do still have my
prescriptions written by the same ophthalmologist and they are
always dead-on accurate.)

Note that I would have been more than pleased to pay the $430. toll
from my opthalmologist and I had already paid the entire tab for
39Dollar, so money was not the issue.

As far as I can see, it's a happy inversion that the best
quality supplier also happens to charge much less (overall)
than folks who demonstrate that they don't want any more of my money.

Sorta like GM serving Toyota their marketplace on a silver
platter.

--Winston
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rangerssuck writes:

How do we justify buying glasses in China rather than supporting US
businesses?


How do you justify walking around in daylight rather than support the US
lighting industry?

http://bastiat.org/en/petition.html
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:53:46 -0500, Richard J Kinch
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rangerssuck writes:

How do we justify buying glasses in China rather than supporting US
businesses?


How do you justify walking around in daylight rather than support the US
lighting industry?

http://bastiat.org/en/petition.html



Im....impressed! The verbage, the passion, the oompapa!

Viva le France!!


Gunner, getting out his candle sticks and order form!!!


"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with
minimum food or water,in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing
clean on him is his weapon. He doesn't worry about what workout to do---
his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him.
The True Believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'; he knows he either wins or he dies.
He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the 'Cause.' Now, who wants to quit?"

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On Sep 2, 5:33*pm, rangerssuck wrote:
OK, so we're all fans of Zenni Optical.

BUT

How do we justify buying glasses in China rather than supporting US
businesses? I, personally have had it with $600 glasses that I can buy
from Zenni for fifty bucks, but we're supporting a business in a
country that employs slave labor, has virtually no environmental
regulation, thumbs its nose at copyright and patent protection and
pretty much owns our debt.

Isn't there something wrong with that?

Just askin'


Aren't the Zenni glasses made in Hong Kong which, while it's part of
China, is one of the most capitalist cities on earth.
Karl


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On Sep 2, 5:33*pm, rangerssuck wrote:
OK, so we're all fans of Zenni Optical.

BUT

How do we justify buying glasses in China rather than supporting US
businesses? I, personally have had it with $600 glasses that I can buy
from Zenni for fifty bucks, but we're supporting a business in a
country that employs slave labor, has virtually no environmental
regulation, thumbs its nose at copyright and patent protection and
pretty much owns our debt.

Isn't there something wrong with that?

Just askin'


Aren't the Zenni glasses made in Hong Kong which, while it's part of
China, is one of the most capitalist cities on earth.
Karl



Ayup. Every pair of glasses sold..a tiny amount of money is used to send
rice to starving North Koreans.

Do your part!


"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with
minimum food or water,in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing
clean on him is his weapon. He doesn't worry about what workout to do---
his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him.
The True Believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'; he knows he either wins or he dies.
He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the 'Cause.' Now, who wants to quit?"

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rangerssuck wrote:
OK, so we're all fans of Zenni Optical.

BUT

How do we justify buying glasses in China rather than supporting US
businesses? I, personally have had it with $600 glasses that I can buy
from Zenni for fifty bucks, but we're supporting a business in a
country that employs slave labor, has virtually no environmental
regulation, thumbs its nose at copyright and patent protection and
pretty much owns our debt.

Isn't there something wrong with that?


Sure is.

I'm willing to pay more for US-made as long as
the product is as good as the cheap import. I'm
not willing to waste my money on US-made crap.
Stuff like the 2 Ford Taurus whose paint job failed
in 4 years and transmissions grenaded at 75k.

I still buy Tektronix, HP/Agilent, Fluke and
other stuff that works, is repairable and keeps
working. I also buy Japanese cars assembled in
the US.

Over 30 percent of my company's production is sold
overseas. I'm running a pretty favorable balance
of trade when all is said and done. I feel no
guilt.


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On Sep 3, 12:41*pm, Jim Stewart wrote:
Over 30 percent of my company's production is sold
overseas. *I'm running a pretty favorable balance
of trade when all is said and done. *I feel no
guilt.


Export Or Die.
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How many of these US shops are just buying their glasses from China and
keeping the profit?
Except for those that are made right infront of you, where are they
produced? Also, please tell me why frames should cost hundreds of dollars?

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OK, so we're all fans of Zenni Optical.

BUT

How do we justify buying glasses in China rather than supporting US
businesses? I, personally have had it with $600 glasses that I can buy
from Zenni for fifty bucks, but we're supporting a business in a
country that employs slave labor, has virtually no environmental
regulation, thumbs its nose at copyright and patent protection and
pretty much owns our debt.

Isn't there something wrong with that?

Just askin'



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The Tagge's wrote:
How many of these US shops are just buying their glasses from China and
keeping the profit?
Except for those that are made right infront of you, where are they
produced?


I figured some of them (Sams?) come from the Orient

Also, please tell me why frames should cost hundreds of dollars?

Same reasons wooden caskets cost thousands



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I'd very much prefer to buy American. However, to do so
would likely bankrupt me in a hurry.

If it makes you feel better, blame the 545 politicians who
regulate trade, and make buying domestic so ## expensive.

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OK, so we're all fans of Zenni Optical.

BUT

How do we justify buying glasses in China rather than
supporting US
businesses? I, personally have had it with $600 glasses that
I can buy
from Zenni for fifty bucks, but we're supporting a business
in a
country that employs slave labor, has virtually no
environmental
regulation, thumbs its nose at copyright and patent
protection and
pretty much owns our debt.

Isn't there something wrong with that?

Just askin'


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