I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my family.
That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them so that
when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who) pops up
in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use) to
re-create this feature.

Ed Ahern

On May 21, 11:31*am, "Charley" wrote:
"Ed Ahern" wrote in message

. ..

I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
family.
That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them so
that
when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who) pops
up
in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use) to
re-create this feature.

Ed Ahern

You need to post on a photo newsgroup. We are woodworkers. We could tell you
how to build a cabinet to hold your CDs, but that's about it.


We could also assist in suggestions how to ground a dust collector.

On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:19:25 -0700, Robatoy wrote:

On May 21, 11:31Â*am, "Charley" wrote:
"Ed Ahern" wrote in message

. ..

I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
family.
That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them
so
that
when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who)
pops
up
in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use)
to re-create this feature.

Ed Ahern

You need to post on a photo newsgroup. We are woodworkers. We could
tell you how to build a cabinet to hold your CDs, but that's about it.


We could also assist in suggestions how to ground a dust collector.

Pointy sticks are well supported too.

What you need for the tooltip tags you describe is probably Javascript -
but it depends how into designing web pages you are.

There are also applications out there to write your web pages for you
which almost certianly will do this. Look at this free (but registration
required) one for instance: http://www.vicman.net/webalbum/

"Ed Ahern" wrote in message
. ..
I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
family.
That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them so
that
when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who) pops
up
in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use) to
re-create this feature.

Ed Ahern


Consult a book on HTML code. There is a way to do that; in fact my old long
gone website had that capability.
Jim

Ed Ahern wrote:
I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my family.
That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them so that
when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who) pops up
in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use) to
re-create this feature.

Ed Ahern


Google on "javascript onmouseover". The first link is:

http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_onmouseover.asp

"Ed Ahern" wrote in message
I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
family.
That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them so
that
when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who) pops
up
in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use) to
re-create this feature.

The easiest way would probably be to use the same HTML you'd use on a
website. One doesn't need to be online to use HTML, it can be run natively
on a computer. You need an HTML editor. Dreamweaver would certainly be
overkill, but there's a number of smaller shareware HTML editors that you
can use. Do a Google search for "html editor". If you're completely new to
hypertext markup language, then you need a friend to help you out.

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
On May 21, 11:31 am, "Charley" wrote:
"Ed Ahern" wrote in message

. ..

I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
family.
That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them
so
that
when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who)
pops
up
in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use)
to
re-create this feature.

Ed Ahern

You need to post on a photo newsgroup. We are woodworkers. We could
tell you
how to build a cabinet to hold your CDs, but that's about it.


We could also assist in suggestions how to ground a dust collector.

Or who you should vote for.

"Doug Winterburn" wrote in message
...
Ed Ahern wrote:
I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
family.
That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them
so that
when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who)
pops up
in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use)
to
re-create this feature.

Ed Ahern


Google on "javascript onmouseover". The first link is:

http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_onmouseover.asp

Well, hell, that clears it right up. How easy can it get?
Yeah, right.

Max (computer illiterate)

Ed Ahern coughed up some electrons that declared:

I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
family. That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?)
them so that when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description
(who's who) pops up in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What
can I do (use) to re-create this feature.

Ed Ahern

The XHTML code to do this on some browsers is:



html
body

img
title="Hover tooltip text here"
src="/vol/www/www.dionic.net/html/photos/images/1997-latvia-03-07-small.jpg"
/

/body
/html


'title' does the magic. Just fix src="..." with a valid path to an image
file...

It works with firefox 2, have not tried it with IE or Opera. If it fails for
you, you might be back to the javascript option Doug and PCPaul mentioned.

HTH

Tim

Max wrote:

"Doug Winterburn" wrote in message
...
Ed Ahern wrote:
I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
family.
That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them
so that
when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who)
pops up
in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use) to
re-create this feature.

Ed Ahern


Google on "javascript onmouseover". The first link is:

http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_onmouseover.asp

Well, hell, that clears it right up. How easy can it get?
Yeah, right.

Max (computer illiterate)

Well, I managed to teach myself this javascript mouse stuff using online
tutorials for a golf website I put together. I'm not computer
illiterate (having spent 38 years as a software developer), but I've
been retired for seven years and most of my knowledge fell out of my ear.

"Doug Winterburn" wrote
Max wrote:

"Doug Winterburn" wrote

http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_onmouseover.asp

Well, hell, that clears it right up. How easy can it get?
Yeah, right.

Max (computer illiterate)

Well, I managed to teach myself this javascript mouse stuff using
online tutorials for a golf website I put together. I'm not computer
illiterate (having spent 38 years as a software developer), but I've
been retired for seven years and most of my knowledge fell out of my
ear.

Computer knowledge has yet to make it *into* my ear.
My daughter had to show me how to turn one on.

Max :-(

I know this is a woodworking forum. I also know there are quite a few
computer literate folks who monitor this group.
Thank you for your advise, I'll let you know how it turns out

Ed Ahern

P.S. Who should I vote for?

"Tim S" wrote in message
...
Ed Ahern coughed up some electrons that declared:

I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
family. That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?)
them so that when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description
(who's who) pops up in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What
can I do (use) to re-create this feature.

Ed Ahern

The XHTML code to do this on some browsers is:



html
body

img
title="Hover tooltip text here"

src="/vol/www/www.dionic.net/html/photos/images/1997-latvia-03-07-small.jpg"
/

/body
/html


'title' does the magic. Just fix src="..." with a valid path to an image
file...

It works with firefox 2, have not tried it with IE or Opera. If it fails
for
you, you might be back to the javascript option Doug and PCPaul mentioned.

HTH

Tim

"Ed Ahern" wrote
I know this is a woodworking forum. I also know there are quite a few
computer literate folks who monitor this group.
Thank you for your advise, I'll let you know how it turns out

Ed Ahern

P.S. Who should I vote for?

It depends on who you ask.

Max

Max wrote:

[snip]

been retired for seven years and most of my knowledge fell out of my ear.

Computer knowledge has yet to make it *into* my ear.
My daughter had to show me how to turn one on.

Max :-(
Get real close to the monitor, purse your lips, and whisper "I love
you". Turns 'em on every time.

On 21 May 2008 17:46:58 -0400, Maxwell Lol wrote:

PCPaul writes:

Pointy sticks are well supported too.

What you need for the tooltip tags you describe is probably Javascript -
but it depends how into designing web pages you are.

Is a tooltip a pointy stick?

Actually - It's an ALT tag to a photo in a HTML file.
Example:

img src="yourphoto.jpg" alt="A picture of the wife and kids" /

No. alt tags used to do that back in the "4" versions (of Netscape,
anyway). They no longer do, however, as their purpose is to supplement
graphics in text only browsers. The correct tag is title as was
mentioned elsewhere. And it's not XHTML (as mentioned elsewhere), it's
just plain old HTML. And java is not required either (as suggested
elsewhere). And a special HTML editor is not needed (as mentioned
elsewhere). Any old text editor can be used, even Notepad (although
there are file size limitations with Notepad).

I put alts and titles (generally the same text in both) on every
single graphic image on every single website I do. I also put titles
on most (eventually all) of my hyperlinks. It's a very useful
technique.

The tag which causes an image to be displayed is img That by itself
won't do anything, so you have to identify the image to display (the
source, if you will) and that parameter is "src" with an argument of
the path/filename. the alt and title can be either before or after
the "src". Thus a sample HTML command might be

img src="images/big-boobs.jpg" title="wowza!" alt="em R biguns"

but it could just as easily be:

img title="wowza!" alt="em R biguns" src="images/big-boobs.jpg"

or:

img alt="wowza!" src="images/big-boobs.jpg" title="em R biguns"

The arguments for each parameter should be surrounded by quotes as
above. It'll work without them (in HTML, for now) but if XHTML becomes
the norm, it's required, so why not start good practices now.

There, more than you ever wanted to know about HTML.


--
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net
http://www.normstools.com

Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997

email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.

"jo4hn" wrote in message
m...
Max wrote:

[snip]

been retired for seven years and most of my knowledge fell out of my
ear.

Computer knowledge has yet to make it *into* my ear.
My daughter had to show me how to turn one on.

Max :-(
Get real close to the monitor, purse your lips, and whisper "I love
you". Turns 'em on every time.

LOL. I'll try it.

Max

On May 21, 10:28*pm, "Max" wrote:
"jo4hn" wrote in message

m...

Max wrote:

[snip]

been retired for seven years and most of my knowledge fell out of my
ear.

Computer knowledge has yet to make it *into* my ear.
My daughter had to show me how to turn one on.

Max *:-(
Get real close to the monitor, purse your lips, and whisper "I love
you". *Turns 'em on every time.

LOL. *I'll try it.

Max

I'm still trying to get the image out of my head....I'm going to need
some brain bleach.
Don't say anything, Max, but he's not well.
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ROTF

"Robatoy" wrote:

I'm still trying to get the image out of my head....I'm going to need
some brain bleach.

"Brain Bleach"?

Is that what you call the stuff the monks on the Isle of Skye produce?

Lew

On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:44:37 -0400, "Ed Ahern"
wrote:

I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my family.
That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them so that
when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who) pops up
in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use) to
re-create this feature.

Ed Ahern

In a Windows folder Right Click on the picture, properties and the
dialog box pops up.

Mark

If I understand you correctly, you want to label your photos so other
people can bring up any details you add to them. This is similar to
Id(x) (ID3v2, ID4, etc) tags used for audio files. The tag stays
with/inside of the file and gets passed along when you send it. The
contents of a tag is called Metadata. Metadata is a key / value pair
that describes an object like a picture, video, etc. While Id(x) tags
are strictly designed for audio, photos have equivalents such as EXIF,
IPTC IIM and XMP. I've added a couple of links to help you understand
the standards but I'll give you a quick overview.

EXIF is added to a photo by your camera. Not all cameras support it.
EXIF includes things like aperture, f-stop, shutter speed, date/time
and
so on. Things that your camera knows. EXIF doesn't know you're
taking
a photo of Uncle Joe.

IPTC IIM was created for the international press corps. Its purpose
is
to label photos so they can catalog / search them for news stories.
The
scope of IPTC IIM is limited because it was designed for the world of
publishing. Using IPTC IIM, you could add metadata such as: Location:
China Town, San Francisco.

XMP is a newer but well established standard that addresses the needs
of
everyone. That includes you. Adobe created XMP and made it an open
standard. They also created an SDK / library and offer that for free.
XMP allows you to add any metadata that you want to a photo or
technically any file. You could add metadata such as: People: Uncle
Joe, Granny Jones and Billy Bob or: Location: Uncle Joe's farm in
Wichita Kansas.

The downside with any of these standards is that not all software
supports them. Yet. XMP is catching on quickly and I'm fairly sure
that every competitive photo management product will support it in the
near future. Your best bet is to get a product that supports XMP and
use it to tag all of your photos. Then tell the family to use it.
Windows Vista supports XMP (or is supposed to according to MS) through
its various methods of working with photos. Linux either supports it
via Nautilus (file explorer) or will in the near future. Google's
Picasa product is in the same boat as are most manufacturers of photo
management software. I would recommend Picasa after they get XMP
support completed. It's a good product and it's free.

As far as viewing XMP metadata on a webpage, you'd have to DAGS for
some
JavaScript to pull out the metadata and display it on the page. I
don't
think your original question was about web sites anyway. I would
personally look for or make a python library to manage XMP metadata
and
make my own website with a framework like Django. Doing a tooltip
would
require a bit of JavaScript and possibly AJAX if you wanted to pull
back
all of the XMP data. It just depends on how many images per page, how
much metadata is in the file and so on...

This link has a good summary of photo tagging:
http://www.rideau-info.com/photos/labelling.html

This link pertains to open source support but has some good info about
XMP: http://www.linux.com/feature/61029