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Are there any favorites types of paint markers that write in white for
re-doing botched up knobs or bezels? I've got a plastic knob less than 1" in diameter where the markings have worn off. I'd like to redraw the numbers which are about 3/16" tall. |
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Someone makes "paint sticks" for doing what you need done. MSC sells
them in white and black. You sorta rub the stick onto the part to be "Painted", then wipe off the excess with a hard cloth. You don't want to use a soft cloth, because its fibers will sink into the indentations and pull the paint out. I don't remember how long the "paint" must dry before you wipe the surface. Pete Stanaitis --------------- Cydrome Leader wrote: Are there any favorites types of paint markers that write in white for re-doing botched up knobs or bezels? I've got a plastic knob less than 1" in diameter where the markings have worn off. I'd like to redraw the numbers which are about 3/16" tall. |
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I have used the sticks made for tire marking, because that's what i had
on hand. Worked fine. Yellow or white. spaco wrote: Someone makes "paint sticks" for doing what you need done. MSC sells them in white and black. You sorta rub the stick onto the part to be "Painted", then wipe off the excess with a hard cloth. You don't want to use a soft cloth, because its fibers will sink into the indentations and pull the paint out. I don't remember how long the "paint" must dry before you wipe the surface. Pete Stanaitis --------------- Cydrome Leader wrote: Are there any favorites types of paint markers that write in white for re-doing botched up knobs or bezels? I've got a plastic knob less than 1" in diameter where the markings have worn off. I'd like to redraw the numbers which are about 3/16" tall. |
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RBnDFW wrote:
I have used the sticks made for tire marking, because that's what i had on hand. Worked fine. Yellow or white. Oh, I forgot to mention, there is no recess, that's why the original silk screened printing wore off. spaco wrote: Someone makes "paint sticks" for doing what you need done. MSC sells them in white and black. You sorta rub the stick onto the part to be "Painted", then wipe off the excess with a hard cloth. You don't want to use a soft cloth, because its fibers will sink into the indentations and pull the paint out. I don't remember how long the "paint" must dry before you wipe the surface. Pete Stanaitis --------------- Cydrome Leader wrote: Are there any favorites types of paint markers that write in white for re-doing botched up knobs or bezels? I've got a plastic knob less than 1" in diameter where the markings have worn off. I'd like to redraw the numbers which are about 3/16" tall. |
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"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... RBnDFW wrote: I have used the sticks made for tire marking, because that's what i had on hand. Worked fine. Yellow or white. Oh, I forgot to mention, there is no recess, that's why the original silk screened printing wore off. spaco wrote: Someone makes "paint sticks" for doing what you need done. MSC sells them in white and black. You sorta rub the stick onto the part to be "Painted", then wipe off the excess with a hard cloth. You don't want to use a soft cloth, because its fibers will sink into the indentations and pull the paint out. I don't remember how long the "paint" must dry before you wipe the surface. Pete Stanaitis --------------- Cydrome Leader wrote: Are there any favorites types of paint markers that write in white for re-doing botched up knobs or bezels? I've got a plastic knob less than 1" in diameter where the markings have worn off. I'd like to redraw the numbers which are about 3/16" tall. Probably better to get a stick on tape with numbers. |
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:21:51 -0500, spaco wrote:
Someone makes "paint sticks" for doing what you need done. MSC sells them in white and black. You sorta rub the stick onto the part to be "Painted", then wipe off the excess with a hard cloth. You don't want to use a soft cloth, because its fibers will sink into the indentations and pull the paint out. I don't remember how long the "paint" must dry before you wipe the surface. Pete Stanaitis With the ones that I got from J&L (now MSC), wiping the surplus off immediately works. The important part is to rub all of the hardened paint off the end of the stick to get to fresh paint, before using it to mark anything. A piece of sawn 2x4 works very well for this :-) Mark Rand RTFM |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... RBnDFW wrote: I have used the sticks made for tire marking, because that's what i had on hand. Worked fine. Yellow or white. Oh, I forgot to mention, there is no recess, that's why the original silk screened printing wore off. spaco wrote: Someone makes "paint sticks" for doing what you need done. MSC sells them in white and black. You sorta rub the stick onto the part to be "Painted", then wipe off the excess with a hard cloth. You don't want to use a soft cloth, because its fibers will sink into the indentations and pull the paint out. I don't remember how long the "paint" must dry before you wipe the surface. Pete Stanaitis --------------- Cydrome Leader wrote: Are there any favorites types of paint markers that write in white for re-doing botched up knobs or bezels? I've got a plastic knob less than 1" in diameter where the markings have worn off. I'd like to redraw the numbers which are about 3/16" tall. Probably better to get a stick on tape with numbers. Hmm, I forgot about stuff like that (dry transfer letters). It would look the best too. I swear they used to comes with some types of video cassettes, but in black. Thanks. |
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On Jul 20, 12:34*pm, Cydrome Leader wrote:
Are there any favorites types of paint markers that write in white for re-doing botched up knobs or bezels? I've got a plastic knob less than 1" in diameter where the markings have worn off. I'd like to redraw the numbers which are about 3/16" tall. Another option -- dry transfer application (burnishing): http://www.minute-man.com/acatalog/N...Alphabets.html |
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On Jul 20, 4:25*pm, "Denis G." wrote:
On Jul 20, 12:34*pm, Cydrome Leader wrote: Are there any favorites types of paint markers that write in white for re-doing botched up knobs or bezels? I've got a plastic knob less than 1" in diameter where the markings have worn off. I'd like to redraw the numbers which are about 3/16" tall. Another option -- dry transfer application (burnishing):http://www.minute-man.com/acatalog/N...Alphabets.html I was just going to mention that, but you've got to be really careful with alignment and the small characters are a real challenge on curved surfaces. One reason the old timers used to have a pointer on the knob and the graduations on the panel face. Choice of colors used to be black or white and you needed a fixative spray after getting things applied. Some of the belt and suspenders guys put a plexiglas panel over the completed lettering job. Dry-transfers used to be a staple of the component catalog business, haven't seen any since the last of the ham stores went out of business around here. There ARE no paint markers with tips as fine as a Sharpie, most I've used have a ball-bearing tip about an 1/8" or so, hardly what you need for laying out fine markings. The alternative is white lacquer, a fine brush and a steady hand. Or turn new knobs, graduate same, stamp markings as desired and fill in with lacquer stick. Brownell's carries various colors of lacquer sticks, should you want to go that route. Basically smear the stuff over the engraving, wait a bit and buff off the excess with a cloth. It's solvent-based, so acetone or mineral spirits will clean things off if you need another go-around. Stan |
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On Jul 20, 5:41*pm, wrote:
On Jul 20, 4:25*pm, "Denis G." wrote: On Jul 20, 12:34*pm, Cydrome Leader wrote: Are there any favorites types of paint markers that write in white for re-doing botched up knobs or bezels? I've got a plastic knob less than 1" in diameter where the markings have worn off. I'd like to redraw the numbers which are about 3/16" tall. Another option -- dry transfer application (burnishing):http://www.minute-man.com/acatalog/N...Alphabets.html I was just going to mention that, but you've got to be really careful with alignment and the small characters are a real challenge on curved surfaces. *One reason the old timers used to have a pointer on the knob and the graduations on the panel face. *Choice of colors used to be black or white and you needed a fixative spray after getting things applied. *Some of the belt and suspenders guys put a plexiglas panel over the completed lettering job. *Dry-transfers used to be a staple of the component catalog business, haven't seen any since the last of the ham stores went out of business around here. There ARE no paint markers with tips as fine as a Sharpie, most I've used have a ball-bearing tip about an 1/8" or so, hardly what you need for laying out fine markings. *The alternative is white lacquer, a fine brush and a steady hand. *Or turn new knobs, graduate same, stamp markings as desired and fill in with lacquer stick. *Brownell's carries various colors of lacquer sticks, should you want to go that route. *Basically smear the stuff over the engraving, wait a bit and buff off the excess with a cloth. *It's solvent-based, so acetone or mineral spirits will clean things off if you need another go-around. Stan Yup, I agree about being careful with alignment and touch up with the white pens. It would be nice if they had computer generated dry- transfer sheets, but I don't think they do. There are computer printer decals too, but I haven't had the chance to use them. |
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"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Are there any favorites types of paint markers that write in white for re-doing botched up knobs or bezels? I've got a plastic knob less than 1" in diameter where the markings have worn off. I'd like to redraw the numbers which are about 3/16" tall. Doesn't someone offer a material that can be ink jet printed, then applied with a pressure sensitive backing? |
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:06:20 -0500, "Tim" wrote:
"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Are there any favorites types of paint markers that write in white for re-doing botched up knobs or bezels? I've got a plastic knob less than 1" in diameter where the markings have worn off. I'd like to redraw the numbers which are about 3/16" tall. Doesn't someone offer a material that can be ink jet printed, then applied with a pressure sensitive backing? Yup. http://www.decalpaper.com/default.asp is one example. IIRC, you print in reverse so the film is on the outside. If the knob is domed, the film might not conform well. Also, the printing will have to contrast with the knob. Easier if it isn't black. Pete Keillor |
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SNIP
Oh, I forgot to mention, there is no recess, that's why the original silk screened printing wore off. SNIP Why not "print" one and glue it on. Even simple CAD programs allow drafting it up and printing it to a scale that suits. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. |
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Brian Lawson wrote:
SNIP Oh, I forgot to mention, there is no recess, that's why the original silk screened printing wore off. SNIP Why not "print" one and glue it on. Even simple CAD programs allow drafting it up and printing it to a scale that suits. I don't have a way to print white letters. |
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On 2009-07-21, Cydrome Leader wrote:
Brian Lawson wrote: SNIP Oh, I forgot to mention, there is no recess, that's why the original silk screened printing wore off. SNIP Why not "print" one and glue it on. Even simple CAD programs allow drafting it up and printing it to a scale that suits. I don't have a way to print white letters. I recommend wire brushing your knobs. Maybe replace a knob with a swivel caster, could help also. i |
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But these knobs go all the way to 11
-- WB .......... metalworking projects www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html "Ignoramus19289" wrote in message ... I recommend wire brushing your knobs. Maybe replace a knob with a swivel caster, could help also. i |
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Ignoramus19289 wrote:
On 2009-07-21, Cydrome Leader wrote: Brian Lawson wrote: SNIP Oh, I forgot to mention, there is no recess, that's why the original silk screened printing wore off. SNIP Why not "print" one and glue it on. Even simple CAD programs allow drafting it up and printing it to a scale that suits. I don't have a way to print white letters. I recommend wire brushing your knobs. Wire brushing a black plastic knob is very clever! FWIW, white laser toner would be interesting to have. |
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On 2009-07-22, Cydrome Leader wrote:
Ignoramus19289 wrote: On 2009-07-21, Cydrome Leader wrote: Brian Lawson wrote: SNIP Oh, I forgot to mention, there is no recess, that's why the original silk screened printing wore off. SNIP Why not "print" one and glue it on. Even simple CAD programs allow drafting it up and printing it to a scale that suits. I don't have a way to print white letters. I recommend wire brushing your knobs. Wire brushing a black plastic knob is very clever! Your white paint will adhere better, for sure. FWIW, white laser toner would be interesting to have. |
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:34:06 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Are there any favorites types of paint markers that write in white for re-doing botched up knobs or bezels? I've got a plastic knob less than 1" in diameter where the markings have worn off. I'd like to redraw the numbers which are about 3/16" tall. -------- Use "dry transfer" lettering. Comes in white. http://www.pcbsupplies.com/servlet/t...Letters/Detail Your local graphic art supply store may have single sheets in stock, or do a google search. Unka' George [George McDuffee] ------------------------------------------- He that will not apply new remedies, must expect new evils: for Time is the greatest innovator: and if Time, of course, alter things to the worse, and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better, what shall be the end? Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman. Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625). |
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Cydrome Leader wrote:
Why not "print" one and glue it on. Even simple CAD programs allow drafting it up and printing it to a scale that suits. I don't have a way to print white letters. How about a decal? http://www.micromark.com/DECAL-PAPER...TERS,8257.html |
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