Moved to Oregon from Calif. six years ago.

The only thing I miss is being able to dial a seven digit phone number
WITHIN MY AREA CODE and get connected. In Oregon you have to dial all ten
digits even to call your neighbor. It is not simply my provider (Verizon),
everybody in Oregon has to do this.

Is switching technology that far behind??

Another rant. The major area code in Oregon is '503', however, you have to
dial a 'one' to reach some out of area '503' numbers. You never know
whether to dial the 'one' or not. If you don't dial the 'one' and automatic
message asks you to redo the call preceding with a 'one'. People, people,
if the computers are able to tell me that I have to dial a 'one' why don't
they simply push the button for me and put my call through.

Very frustrating!!

Anybody else in the U.S.A. have to do this?

Ivan Vegvary

On Jun 30, 4:55*pm, "Ivan Vegvary" wrote:

The only thing I miss is being able to dial a seven digit phone number
WITHIN MY AREA CODE and get connected. *In Oregon you have to dial all ten
digits even to call your neighbor. *It is not simply my provider (Verizon),
everybody in Oregon has to do this.

Is switching technology that far behind??

I suspect it's not the technology but an intentional decision to
disable that feature, perhaps to try to avoid having expansion area
codes seem less desirable.

Another rant. *The major area code in Oregon is '503', however, you have to
dial a 'one' to reach some out of area '503' numbers. *You never know
whether to dial the 'one' or not. *If you don't dial the 'one' and automatic
message asks you to redo the call preceding with a 'one'. *People, people,
if the computers are able to tell me that I have to dial a 'one' why don't
they simply push the button for me and put my call through.

If this correlates to a call being charged for a non-local call its
sensible. If it doesn't, it's just silly.

Of course cell phones with typical nationwide plans and number
directories mean that actually dialing numbers by hand or paying for a
call based on distance are less frequent than they used to be.

"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
...
Moved to Oregon from Calif. six years ago.

The only thing I miss is being able to dial a seven digit phone number
WITHIN MY AREA CODE and get connected. In Oregon you have to dial all ten
digits even to call your neighbor. It is not simply my provider
(Verizon), everybody in Oregon has to do this.

Is switching technology that far behind??

Another rant. The major area code in Oregon is '503', however, you have
to dial a 'one' to reach some out of area '503' numbers. You never know
whether to dial the 'one' or not. If you don't dial the 'one' and
automatic message asks you to redo the call preceding with a 'one'.
People, people, if the computers are able to tell me that I have to dial a
'one' why don't they simply push the button for me and put my call
through.

Very frustrating!!

Anybody else in the U.S.A. have to do this?

Anybody in Southern California does......

JC

On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:55:45 GMT, the infamous "Ivan Vegvary"
scrawled the following:

Moved to Oregon from Calif. six years ago.

Seven years here, Ivan.


The only thing I miss is being able to dial a seven digit phone number
WITHIN MY AREA CODE and get connected. In Oregon you have to dial all ten
digits even to call your neighbor. It is not simply my provider (Verizon),
everybody in Oregon has to do this.

Um, no we don't. For some cell phones, all 11 digits are required,
but not for landlines, or land to cell in most cases. At least in my
experience. I'm down in Grass Pants, AC 541, not 503. The good news
is that they're adding two more ACs soon, luckily -not- in our
southern Oregon area. I hate Qwest and miss Pac Bell, though I know
Pac Bell is no more. (SBC ate them and AT&FrackingT ate them.) AT&FT
"lost" (stole) my business line for a week when I switched back to
PacBell a few decades ago and I haven't had anything to do with them
since. Grrr...


Is switching technology that far behind??

Another rant. The major area code in Oregon is '503',

That's a matter of opinion. There are probably more phones in that
area, but it's _much_ smaller on the map.
http://www.whitepages.com/maps/OR


however, you have to
dial a 'one' to reach some out of area '503' numbers. You never know
whether to dial the 'one' or not. If you don't dial the 'one' and automatic
message asks you to redo the call preceding with a 'one'. People, people,
if the computers are able to tell me that I have to dial a 'one' why don't
they simply push the button for me and put my call through.

In all cases that I can remember since I started using the telepnone,
dialing the 1 is a necessity when dialing the area code. Local is 7,
long distance is 11 digits. shrug

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it's about learning how to dance in the rain.
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In article ,
"John R. Carroll" wrote:

"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
...
Moved to Oregon from Calif. six years ago.

The only thing I miss is being able to dial a seven digit phone number
WITHIN MY AREA CODE and get connected. In Oregon you have to dial all ten
digits even to call your neighbor. It is not simply my provider
(Verizon), everybody in Oregon has to do this.

Is switching technology that far behind??

Another rant. The major area code in Oregon is '503', however, you have
to dial a 'one' to reach some out of area '503' numbers. You never know
whether to dial the 'one' or not. If you don't dial the 'one' and
automatic message asks you to redo the call preceding with a 'one'.
People, people, if the computers are able to tell me that I have to dial a
'one' why don't they simply push the button for me and put my call
through.

Very frustrating!!

Anybody else in the U.S.A. have to do this?

Anybody in Southern California does......

JC

NE Ohio requires 10-digit for local, +1 for LD or local LD. ("Local LD:"
Now there's an expensive oxymoron.

Ivan Vegvary wrote:
...snip
People, people, if the computers are able to tell me that I have to dial
a 'one' why don't they simply push the button for me and put my call
through.



I'm in UK.
BT has a facility called "ring back"; if you call a number that's busy,
ring-back allows you to hang-up and calls you back when the number is free.
Sometimes it works as follows:
You call the number, its busy, you get a message that says "The number
you called is busy, to use ring-back press '5'". So, you press '5' and
get another message saying "Sorry, ring-back not available for this number".
Duh...

Regards, Gary Wooding
(To reply by email, change feet to foot in my address)

"Ivan Vegvary" wrote:

Moved to Oregon from Calif. six years ago.

The only thing I miss is being able to dial a seven digit phone number
WITHIN MY AREA CODE and get connected. In Oregon you have to dial all ten
digits even to call your neighbor. It is not simply my provider (Verizon),
everybody in Oregon has to do this.

Is switching technology that far behind??

Another rant. The major area code in Oregon is '503', however, you have to
dial a 'one' to reach some out of area '503' numbers. You never know
whether to dial the 'one' or not. If you don't dial the 'one' and automatic
message asks you to redo the call preceding with a 'one'. People, people,
if the computers are able to tell me that I have to dial a 'one' why don't
they simply push the button for me and put my call through.

Very frustrating!!

Anybody else in the U.S.A. have to do this?

Ivan Vegvary

I don't have to dial a one but I noticed when I switched from a regional plan to a nation
wide plan, numbers in my area code began to need the area code added to it. This is a
cellular connection. I have no idea how the land line works since I had long distance
disabled back when I used a phone modem just in case some nasty virus decided to call one
of those countries where you get raped hard. Besides, my cell phone is the least
expensive way to make a long distance call short of a toll free number.

Wes

On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:55:45 GMT, "Ivan Vegvary"
wrote:

Moved to Oregon from Calif. six years ago.

The only thing I miss is being able to dial a seven digit phone number
WITHIN MY AREA CODE and get connected. In Oregon you have to dial all ten
digits even to call your neighbor. It is not simply my provider (Verizon),
everybody in Oregon has to do this.

Is switching technology that far behind??

Another rant. The major area code in Oregon is '503', however, you have to
dial a 'one' to reach some out of area '503' numbers. You never know
whether to dial the 'one' or not. If you don't dial the 'one' and automatic
message asks you to redo the call preceding with a 'one'. People, people,
if the computers are able to tell me that I have to dial a 'one' why don't
they simply push the button for me and put my call through.

Very frustrating!!

Anybody else in the U.S.A. have to do this?

Ivan Vegvary

Not so in the Mnpls area. I can call anyone in the rather extensive
763 area code (same as mine) by punching only 7 digits. I don't have
to punch a 1 before calling a number in the two other metro area
codes.

"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
...
Moved to Oregon from Calif. six years ago.

The only thing I miss is being able to dial a seven digit phone number
WITHIN MY AREA CODE and get connected. In Oregon you have to dial all ten
digits even to call your neighbor. It is not simply my provider
(Verizon), everybody in Oregon has to do this.

Is switching technology that far behind??

Another rant. The major area code in Oregon is '503', however, you have
to dial a 'one' to reach some out of area '503' numbers. You never know
whether to dial the 'one' or not. If you don't dial the 'one' and
automatic message asks you to redo the call preceding with a 'one'.
People, people, if the computers are able to tell me that I have to dial a
'one' why don't they simply push the button for me and put my call
through.

Very frustrating!!

Anybody else in the U.S.A. have to do this?

Ivan Vegvary

Same here on Vancouver island, in Canada


Steve R.

Similar set-up here in NJ but to be honest, I haven't figured out when a "1"
is needed, when it's not, and whether the area code is necessary all the
time or not. Here at work, I can dial locally without the area code. At
home, a mere 35 minute NJ-commute away on a good day, the area code seems to
be needed 100% of the time.

To further complicate issues, our state is tiny and I sit on the border of
area codes whether I'm at home or work so I never know if a number I'm
dialing is a mile away or 2+ hours drive away...

Think about this... NJ is small (only about 9-10 times the size of
Jacksonville, Florida) yet has nine area codes... Two of which I hadn't
even heard of until I looked on Google just now to count them. Being an old
school, non-malicious phone phreak, I thought I was hip on the tele. grin

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(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
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Wes wrote:

I don't have to dial a one but I noticed when I switched from a regional plan to a nation
wide plan, numbers in my area code began to need the area code added to it. This is a
cellular connection. I have no idea how the land line works since I had long distance
disabled back when I used a phone modem just in case some nasty virus decided to call one
of those countries where you get raped hard. Besides, my cell phone is the least
expensive way to make a long distance call short of a toll free number.


Have you ever tried Skype for free computer to computer long
distance?


I recently signed up, and the audio quality is good.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

In article ,
"Ivan Vegvary" wrote:

Moved to Oregon from Calif. six years ago.

The only thing I miss is being able to dial a seven digit phone number
WITHIN MY AREA CODE and get connected. In Oregon you have to dial all ten
digits even to call your neighbor. It is not simply my provider (Verizon),
everybody in Oregon has to do this.

Is switching technology that far behind??

Another rant. The major area code in Oregon is '503', however, you have to
dial a 'one' to reach some out of area '503' numbers. You never know
whether to dial the 'one' or not. If you don't dial the 'one' and automatic
message asks you to redo the call preceding with a 'one'. People, people,
if the computers are able to tell me that I have to dial a 'one' why don't
they simply push the button for me and put my call through.

Very frustrating!!

Anybody else in the U.S.A. have to do this?

It's that way in Mass. The reason was that with the exhaustion of the
numbers in say the 617 area code (Boston area), the phone companies had
to split the area code into two or three.

There was a lot of resistance from businesses because they feared that
they would lose much of the business from nearby places that now had to
dial 11 digits versus 7 digits to call the business.

The solution was to make everybody dial 11 digits.

Joe Gwinn

THREE other area codes.
to punch a 1 before calling a number in the two other metro area
codes.

Ivan Vegvary wrote:

Moved to Oregon from Calif. six years ago.

The only thing I miss is being able to dial a seven digit phone number
WITHIN MY AREA CODE and get connected. In Oregon you have to dial all
ten digits even to call your neighbor. It is not simply my provider
(Verizon), everybody in Oregon has to do this.

Is switching technology that far behind??

Another rant. The major area code in Oregon is '503', however, you have
to dial a 'one' to reach some out of area '503' numbers. You never know
whether to dial the 'one' or not. If you don't dial the 'one' and
automatic message asks you to redo the call preceding with a 'one'.
People, people, if the computers are able to tell me that I have to dial
a 'one' why don't they simply push the button for me and put my call
through.

Very frustrating!!

Anybody else in the U.S.A. have to do this?

Ivan Vegvary


After reading the other replies, I have to chime in about the Oregon
situation.

Oregon has some 'overlaid' area codes, where the same geographic area
has two (or eventually more) area codes. The old 503 area now is also
971 territory, so phone customers in the same building may have
different area codes. That's why you have to dial all 10 digits now -
because 'area' no longer means 'geographically proximate'.

The need for this was supposedly due to the proliferation of faxes, cell
phones, etc. and the undesirability of requiring half the old 503 area
code customers to change their numbers if the area got split up.

Carla
Arguing on the internet like running in the special olympics. even if u
win, ur still retarded.

That's the story..

Basically the problem is driven by the proliferation of cellular telephony. We have extended the
use of a valuable technology to the common man; and as per usual, he is cramming it back up our
asses. Traffic deaths caused by cell phones are on the increase, "tweets" delivered via cell phone
have the capability to cause pancic, and don't even think about trying to use the telephone during
an actual panic such as 9-11.

Bob Swinney

lemel_man wrote:
I'm in UK.
BT has a facility called "ring back"; if you call a number that's
busy, ring-back allows you to hang-up and calls you back when the
number is free. Sometimes it works as follows:
You call the number, its busy, you get a message that says "The number
you called is busy, to use ring-back press '5'". So, you press '5' and
get another message saying "Sorry, ring-back not available for this
number". Duh...

I can get that here in the states with the Qwest company as the landline
provider, except they charge $0.75 for the priviledge.

Needless to say, they have never gotten that seventy five cents from me.

Jon

"Carla Fong" wrote in message
...


Ivan Vegvary wrote:

Moved to Oregon from Calif. six years ago.

The only thing I miss is being able to dial a seven digit phone number
WITHIN MY AREA CODE and get connected. In Oregon you have to dial all
ten digits even to call your neighbor. It is not simply my provider
(Verizon), everybody in Oregon has to do this.

Is switching technology that far behind??

Another rant. The major area code in Oregon is '503', however, you have
to dial a 'one' to reach some out of area '503' numbers. You never know
whether to dial the 'one' or not. If you don't dial the 'one' and
automatic message asks you to redo the call preceding with a 'one'.
People, people, if the computers are able to tell me that I have to dial
a 'one' why don't they simply push the button for me and put my call
through.

Very frustrating!!

Anybody else in the U.S.A. have to do this?

Ivan Vegvary


After reading the other replies, I have to chime in about the Oregon
situation.

Oregon has some 'overlaid' area codes, where the same geographic area has
two (or eventually more) area codes. The old 503 area now is also 971
territory, so phone customers in the same building may have different area
codes. That's why you have to dial all 10 digits now - because 'area' no
longer means 'geographically proximate'.

The need for this was supposedly due to the proliferation of faxes, cell
phones, etc. and the undesirability of requiring half the old 503 area
code customers to change their numbers if the area got split up.

Carla
Arguing on the internet like running in the special olympics. even if u
win, ur still retarded.

That's the story..

Thanks Carle, your explanation makes sense and gives me comfort.
Ivan Vegvary

"Joe AutoDrill" wrote:

Think about this... NJ is small (only about 9-10 times the size of
Jacksonville, Florida) yet has nine area codes... Two of which I hadn't
even heard of until I looked on Google just now to count them. Being an old
school, non-malicious phone phreak, I thought I was hip on the tele. grin

Don't worry, I doubt the Feds are still looking for you and your blue box.


Wes

"Wes" wrote in message
...
Don't worry, I doubt the Feds are still looking for you and your blue box.


LOL. I ws more of a red box kind of guy... But I did get into high volume
telephone sound broadcasting.. It's still useful for those pesky
telemarketers...
--


Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com
VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/autodrill

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