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pressure transducers needed
Anyone got a quick on-line source for some pressure transducers? I need
a ballpark number for a grant proposal ASAP. These would go on the high and low sides of a standard R134 refrigeration setup. low side would be soft vac to perhaps 25 or 50 psi, high side would be 0 to 250 psi. These are lab demos, would not need to be super accurate but would need to clearly distinguish 1/4 to 1/2 psi. Output would be something analog, open to suggestions. It would be used in conjunction with a thermocouple input box so I would need to do some signal translation somewhere. And no, I did not google, the stupid tractor is sick, trying to do two things at once. |
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On May 10, 2:25*pm, RoyJ wrote:
Anyone got a quick on-line source for some pressure transducers? I need a ballpark number for a grant proposal ASAP. These would go on the high and low sides of a standard R134 refrigeration setup. low side would be soft vac to perhaps 25 or 50 psi, high side would be 0 to 250 psi. These are lab demos, would not need to be super accurate but would need to clearly distinguish 1/4 to 1/2 psi. Output would be something analog, open to suggestions. It would be used in conjunction with a thermocouple input box so I would need to do some signal translation somewhere. And no, I did not google, the stupid tractor is sick, trying to do two things at once. Look here- http://www.omega.com/pressure/psc.html I buy pressure transducers from them often |
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pressure transducers needed
On Sun, 10 May 2009 14:25:23 -0500, RoyJ
wrote: Anyone got a quick on-line source for some pressure transducers? I need a ballpark number for a grant proposal ASAP. These would go on the high and low sides of a standard R134 refrigeration setup. low side would be soft vac to perhaps 25 or 50 psi, high side would be 0 to 250 psi. These are lab demos, would not need to be super accurate but would need to clearly distinguish 1/4 to 1/2 psi. Output would be something analog, open to suggestions. It would be used in conjunction with a thermocouple input box so I would need to do some signal translation somewhere. And no, I did not google, the stupid tractor is sick, trying to do two things at once. DigiKey has a wide selection. www.digikey.com You may need to cook up (or include cost of) some interface electronics for some of them, others may have standard 4-20ma or 0-5 volt interfaces. |
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pressure transducers needed
RoyJ wrote:
Anyone got a quick on-line source for some pressure transducers? I need a ballpark number for a grant proposal ASAP. These would go on the high and low sides of a standard R134 refrigeration setup. low side would be soft vac to perhaps 25 or 50 psi, high side would be 0 to 250 psi. These are lab demos, would not need to be super accurate but would need to clearly distinguish 1/4 to 1/2 psi. Output would be something analog, open to suggestions. It would be used in conjunction with a thermocouple input box so I would need to do some signal translation somewhere. And no, I did not google, the stupid tractor is sick, trying to do two things at once. http://web1.automationdirect.com/adc...e_Transmitters You will need to order an M12 size cable for them also , such as this one: http://web1.automationdirect.com/adc...D12M-0B-070-C1 They have vacuum transducers, and pressure transducers, but I don't see any of them that cover vacuum and pressure both. |
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pressure transducers needed
Those seem to be about what I was expecting (hoping??) to find. $125
each plus $10 to $15 for the cable, 0-10volt output. I need two per system, 5 systems to modify. Don mentioned Digikey. While they may have what I need, they have 758 pages (no lie, that's what the search engine said!!) that I would need to sort through. The cheap ones that run about $50 are not refrigeration grade connections. Gerry mentioned Omega. Nice stuff, pretty pricey. Thanks for the responses, now to put it together for the grant. PS. The new (old) engine is installed on the tractor, rebuilt the carb, cleaned the gas tank (I've NEVER seen one that gummy!!!), and got the PTO clutch working. The grass is growing, I was going to be pushing a hand mower pretty quick. JohnB wrote: RoyJ wrote: Anyone got a quick on-line source for some pressure transducers? I need a ballpark number for a grant proposal ASAP. These would go on the high and low sides of a standard R134 refrigeration setup. low side would be soft vac to perhaps 25 or 50 psi, high side would be 0 to 250 psi. These are lab demos, would not need to be super accurate but would need to clearly distinguish 1/4 to 1/2 psi. Output would be something analog, open to suggestions. It would be used in conjunction with a thermocouple input box so I would need to do some signal translation somewhere. And no, I did not google, the stupid tractor is sick, trying to do two things at once. http://web1.automationdirect.com/adc...e_Transmitters You will need to order an M12 size cable for them also , such as this one: http://web1.automationdirect.com/adc...D12M-0B-070-C1 They have vacuum transducers, and pressure transducers, but I don't see any of them that cover vacuum and pressure both. |
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pressure transducers needed
On Sun, 10 May 2009 18:33:39 -0500, JohnB wrote:
They have vacuum transducers, and pressure transducers, but I don't see any of them that cover vacuum and pressure both. Psst! PSIA (for Absolute) *is* vacuum - true 0 PSIA is a total vacuum. 14.7 PSIA is 0 PSIG (Gauge), AKA atmospheric pressure at sea level... These sensors might not be accurate enough at the bottom of their range to determine refrigeration system evacuation levels down in the micron range. You need a different sensor for that. -- Bruce -- |
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pressure transducers needed
The application is for a running system. On a freezer system, the low
side gets fairly low pressure but nothing close to hard vac. Bruce L. Bergman wrote: On Sun, 10 May 2009 18:33:39 -0500, JohnB wrote: They have vacuum transducers, and pressure transducers, but I don't see any of them that cover vacuum and pressure both. Psst! PSIA (for Absolute) *is* vacuum - true 0 PSIA is a total vacuum. 14.7 PSIA is 0 PSIG (Gauge), AKA atmospheric pressure at sea level... These sensors might not be accurate enough at the bottom of their range to determine refrigeration system evacuation levels down in the micron range. You need a different sensor for that. -- Bruce -- |
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pressure transducers needed
On Sun, 10 May 2009 14:25:23 -0500, RoyJ
wrote: Anyone got a quick on-line source for some pressure transducers? I need a ballpark number for a grant proposal ASAP. These would go on the high and low sides of a standard R134 refrigeration setup. low side would be soft vac to perhaps 25 or 50 psi, high side would be 0 to 250 psi. These are lab demos, would not need to be super accurate but would need to clearly distinguish 1/4 to 1/2 psi. Output would be something analog, open to suggestions. It would be used in conjunction with a thermocouple input box so I would need to do some signal translation somewhere. And no, I did not google, the stupid tractor is sick, trying to do two things at once. Check Setra. |
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