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Enco BS-0 dividing head question
Does anyone have one of these? It would be handy for making a few details in a project I'm working on. I know I'm looking at cheap, just wondering how cheap. http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...PMAKA=203-4000 Thanks, Wes |
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On Tue, 05 May 2009 17:55:18 -0400, Wes wrote:
Does anyone have one of these? It would be handy for making a few details in a project I'm working on. I know I'm looking at cheap, just wondering how cheap. http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...PMAKA=203-4000 Thanks, Wes Ive seen em used in a few shops. If you take care of them, dont bang em around and dont drop em on the floor too many times..they are pretty good from all reports. Gunner "Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimum food or water,in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon. He doesn't worry about what workout to do--- his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him. The True Believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'; he knows he either wins or he dies. He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the 'Cause.' Now, who wants to quit?" NCOIC of the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Course in a welcome speech to new SF candidates |
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On Tue, 05 May 2009 17:55:18 -0400, Wes wrote:
Does anyone have one of these? It would be handy for making a few details in a project I'm working on. I know I'm looking at cheap, just wondering how cheap. http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...PMAKA=203-4000 Thanks, Wes Oh..and you are likely gonna need to build or buy a tailstock as well. Gunner "Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimum food or water,in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon. He doesn't worry about what workout to do--- his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him. The True Believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'; he knows he either wins or he dies. He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the 'Cause.' Now, who wants to quit?" NCOIC of the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Course in a welcome speech to new SF candidates |
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"Wes" wrote in message ... Does anyone have one of these? It would be handy for making a few details in a project I'm working on. I know I'm looking at cheap, just wondering how cheap. http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...PMAKA=203-4000 Thanks, Wes I have used a couple of them and then bought one. When I moved I sold it and have been thinking about getting another one. They are really nice for the money. A 5" chuck is just about perfect for it. They come in a heavy wood box with everything except the chuck. Richard W. |
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On May 5, 4:14*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 05 May 2009 17:55:18 -0400, Wes wrote: Does anyone have one of these? *It would be handy for making a few details in a project I'm working on. *I know I'm looking at cheap, just wondering how cheap.. * http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...=953522&PMAKA=... Thanks, Wes Oh..and you are likely gonna need to build or buy a tailstock as well. Gunner Catalog says tailstock included, would be a hell of deal if it is. Stan |
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wrote in message ... On May 5, 4:14 pm, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 05 May 2009 17:55:18 -0400, Wes wrote: Does anyone have one of these? It would be handy for making a few details in a project I'm working on. I know I'm looking at cheap, just wondering how cheap. http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...=953522&PMAKA=... Thanks, Wes Oh..and you are likely gonna need to build or buy a tailstock as well. Gunner Catalog says tailstock included, would be a hell of deal if it is. Stan It's included. The only thing you will need to buy is a chuck and the chuck adapter plate is already in the set. Richard W. |
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"Richard W." wrote:
I have used a couple of them and then bought one. When I moved I sold it and have been thinking about getting another one. They are really nice for the money. A 5" chuck is just about perfect for it. They come in a heavy wood box with everything except the chuck. Thanks everyone for the review. Anyone know the free shipping code for May? Wes |
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"Wes" wrote in message ... "Richard W." wrote: I have used a couple of them and then bought one. When I moved I sold it and have been thinking about getting another one. They are really nice for the money. A 5" chuck is just about perfect for it. They come in a heavy wood box with everything except the chuck. Thanks everyone for the review. Anyone know the free shipping code for May? Wes I got this from another site, so you may need to test it before hitting the order button. "The current ENCO Code is PRSMAY. Good through June 30, 09." Richard W. |
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"Richard W." wrote:
"Wes" wrote in message ... "Richard W." wrote: I have used a couple of them and then bought one. When I moved I sold it and have been thinking about getting another one. They are really nice for the money. A 5" chuck is just about perfect for it. They come in a heavy wood box with everything except the chuck. Thanks everyone for the review. Anyone know the free shipping code for May? Wes I got this from another site, so you may need to test it before hitting the order button. "The current ENCO Code is PRSMAY. Good through June 30, 09." Richard W. You have Applied the following promotions: PRSMAY - Free UPS Shipping on your order of $25 or more! Thank you! Wes |
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On May 7, 1:41*am, Wes wrote:
"Richard W." wrote: "Wes" wrote in message ... "Richard W." wrote: I have used a couple of them and then bought one. When I moved I sold it and have been thinking about getting another one. They are really nice for the money. A 5" chuck is just about perfect for it. They come in a heavy wood box with everything except the chuck. Thanks everyone for the review. *Anyone know the free shipping code for May? Wes I got this from another site, so you may need to test it before hitting the order button. "The current ENCO Code is PRSMAY. Good through June 30, 09." Richard W. You have Applied the following promotions: * PRSMAY - Free UPS Shipping on your order of $25 or more! Thank you! Wes- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Let us know what you think of it when you get it. Stan |
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Enco BS-0 dividing head question
Thanks, everyone, I just ordered one by phone, with the PRSMAY code
the total was $269.99. She said they have about 5 left. jsw |
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Jim Wilkins wrote:
Thanks, everyone, I just ordered one by phone, with the PRSMAY code the total was $269.99. She said they have about 5 left. jsw I sure hope there was 6 left when they took my order Wes |
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I bought one of those on ebay for about $250 brand new. It's not Enco brand,
but it looks the same.It came with 3 plates, a dead center, a dog, and a chuck back plate. I had to turn a spud to machine the back plate. Mine has a 7 B&S taper in it but that works for me, I have a M-head with a & B&S spindle on my Hardinge TM-UM mill with a set of collets. It's a decent dividing head for the money. I think you'll be happy with it. Tom "Wes" wrote in message ... Jim Wilkins wrote: Thanks, everyone, I just ordered one by phone, with the PRSMAY code the total was $269.99. She said they have about 5 left. jsw I sure hope there was 6 left when they took my order Wes |
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On May 7, 11:56*pm, "Tom Wait"
wrote: I bought one of those on ebay for about $250 brand new. It's not Enco brand, but it looks the same.It came with 3 plates, a dead center, a dog, and a chuck back plate. I had to turn a spud to machine the back plate. Mine has a 7 B&S taper in it but that works for me, I have a M-head with a & B&S spindle on my Hardinge TM-UM mill with a set of collets. It's a decent dividing head for the money. I think you'll be happy with it. Tom"Wes" wrote in message Morse #2 and B&S #7 are almost identical. I padded the MT2 shank of this boring head with aluminum tape to fit my B&S #7 Clausing mill: http://picasaweb.google.com/KB1DAL/T...53481061578594 The tape isn't in the photo because I found a boring head with a B&S #7 arbor and cleaned up that MT2 arbor. Both collet series only go up to 1/2", not enough to hold large work for milling. Here is a work-around, the shaft and bushing centered the blank and the face plate holds it. The 40 tooth gear in that index is only 45mm in diameter, not quite concentric, and inadequate for milling steel. http://picasaweb.google.com/KB1DAL/H...10360947850418 jsw |
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"Richard W." wrote:
I have used a couple of them and then bought one. When I moved I sold it and have been thinking about getting another one. They are really nice for the money. A 5" chuck is just about perfect for it. They come in a heavy wood box with everything except the chuck. Thanks Richard. 5" sounds about right. Enco doesn't have a good selection of moderately priced 4 jaw independent chucks at this time. Wes "If I can not learn, I can not teach." Massad Ayoob |
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On Thu, 7 May 2009 15:14:32 -0700 (PDT), Jim Wilkins
wrote: Thanks, everyone, I just ordered one by phone, with the PRSMAY code the total was $269.99. She said they have about 5 left. jsw Did you get yours yet? Mine showed up today. Noticed tag saying taiwan instead of china. That was a pleasant thing. Looks like I'll be happy with it. Wes |
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On May 12, 5:27*pm, Wes wrote:
On Thu, 7 May 2009 15:14:32 -0700 (PDT), Jim Wilkins wrote: Thanks, everyone, I just ordered one by phone, with the PRSMAY code the total was $269.99. She said they have about 5 left. jsw Did you get yours yet? *Mine showed up today. *Noticed tag saying taiwan instead of china. *That was a pleasant thing. * Looks like I'll be happy with it. Wes Not yet. I'm too busy with rush jobs at work to play with it anyway. jsw |
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Jim Wilkins wrote:
Did you get yours yet? *Mine showed up today. *Noticed tag saying taiwan instead of china. *That was a pleasant thing. * Looks like I'll be happy with it. Wes Not yet. I'm too busy with rush jobs at work to play with it anyway. I know the feeling, I worked 10 hour days last week and saturday. Wes |
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I ordered one, and it came in this week. I am very happy with it, very
good fit and finish. It is a MT2, and also came with a face plate for a chuck. I found some errors in the table in the book, have a spreadsheet just about done that shows all the divisions with the various plates. Will have a PDF up on my site later this week if anyone wants a copy. wentztech.com/metalworking Dale |
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On May 29, 12:17*pm, " wrote:
I ordered one, and it came in this week. I am very happy with it, very good fit and finish. It is a MT2, and also came with a face plate for a chuck. I found some errors in the table in the book, have a spreadsheet just about done that shows all the divisions with the various plates. Will have a PDF up on my site later this week if anyone wants a copy. wentztech.com/metalworking Dale Repost from Jan 9: I just made up the index tables for 40 and 90 using OpenOffice Calc. Rather than posting it I'll describe how so you can make your own for whatever number of divisions you need, or a different type of indexer. I leave space at the top for headers, comments and the file name. Don't type the quotes, only what's between them. Enter headers "N" in cell A3, "40/N" in B3, "90/N" in C3. Enter "1" in cell A4, "=1+A4" in A5. It should show 2. Select and copy A5, then select a block from A6 downward. Paste. The pasted cells should read 2 3 4 5 6 etc Continue until you have all the sequential numbers you want in column A. I went to 100. Now type in the indexing formulas. Enter "=40/A4" in B4, "=90/A4" in C4. Select and copy B4 & C4, paste them in below as far as the end of the numbers in A. Select columns B and C and format their cells as Fraction. Change the format code to # ??/?? You should see: N 40/N 90/N 1 40 90 2 20 45 3 13 1/3 30 4 10 22 1/2 Columns B and C give the full and partial handle turns to divide by N in column A. For instance, 3 on a 40:1 indexer requites 13 full turns plus 1/3rd more, like 5 spaces on the 15 circle. The denominator of the fractions is always the number of divisions N or a factor of it. It may help to figure out and type in the factors of N in column D, such as 63 = 3 X 3 X 7. Then you can see that 3, 7, 9 and 21 are all factors of 63, and match them to the available hole circles. The sector gear I recently made used 20/34 for 68 teeth. You could create a short one-page table and then enter whatever value of N you need as text to see which index circle(s) will work for it. Jim Wilkins |
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