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When a slip roll such as this one:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36698 is spec'ed as 12" x 20ga, I assume that means it can roll a 12" piece of 20ga (doh). But I also assume that if the piece is less than 12" wide, it can be more than 20ga thick. The question is: how much thicker? Is there a rule of thumb for the relationship of thickness & width? I assume (again) that the limiting factor is the diameter of the roll. That is, for example, if a 12" piece thicker than 20ga were put through this roll, the rolls would deflect & cause uneven rolling of the stock. But narrower pieces would be rolled near one end, minimizing the deflection of the roll. ?? Thanks, Bob |
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On Apr 27, 4:35*pm, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
When a slip roll such as this one:http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36698 is spec'ed as 12" x 20ga, I assume that means it can roll a 12" piece of 20ga (doh). *But I also assume that if the piece is less than 12" wide, it can be more than 20ga thick. *The question is: how much thicker? *Is there a rule of thumb for the relationship of thickness & width? I assume (again) that the limiting factor is the diameter of the roll. That is, for example, if a 12" piece thicker than 20ga were put through this roll, the rolls would deflect & cause uneven rolling of the stock. * But narrower pieces would be rolled near one end, minimizing the deflection of the roll. *?? Thanks, Bob I believe the stiffness in proportional to the width and to the thickness cubed. So if the thickness was twice as thick as 20 gauge then the width would have to be 1/8 of 12 inches or 1.5 inches. Dan |
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On Apr 27, 10:35*am, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
When a slip roll such as this one:http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36698 is spec'ed as 12" x 20ga, I assume that means it can roll a 12" piece of 20ga (doh). *But I also assume that if the piece is less than 12" wide, it can be more than 20ga thick. *The question is: how much thicker? *Is there a rule of thumb for the relationship of thickness & width? I assume (again) that the limiting factor is the diameter of the roll. That is, for example, if a 12" piece thicker than 20ga were put through this roll, the rolls would deflect & cause uneven rolling of the stock. * But narrower pieces would be rolled near one end, minimizing the deflection of the roll. *?? Thanks, Bob This is how equipment gets broken. ;) Stay with the manufacturer's requirements...and with HF it is wise to stay below their spec. TMT |
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On Apr 27, 11:35*am, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
When a slip roll such as this one:http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=36698 is spec'ed as 12" x 20ga, I assume that means it can roll a 12" piece of 20ga (doh). *But I also assume that if the piece is less than 12" wide, it can be more than 20ga thick. *The question is: how much thicker? *Is there a rule of thumb for the relationship of thickness & width? ... Bob The shear, brake and rolls on my 30" 3-in-1 barely work to spec. I think the rule of thumb should be don't try to push them at all. The rolls deflect and the work piece is barrel shaped, rolled tighter at the ends. jsw |
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