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Any _relatively_ inexpensive TIGs?
On Apr 2, 2:10*pm, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: I had a tigging job done recently on a workpiece I have historically MIG welded (milled aluminum to cast aluminum). I can swing a reel gun OK, but the TIG work was purely elegant in both penetration and cosmetics. *So, now I'm interested. I have a small budget (no minimum G). *Anybody have experience with affordable TIG units that have enough features to make it work well on aluminum and stainless? LLoyd What thickness? That will set your budget. TMT |
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Any _relatively_ inexpensive TIGs?
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: What thickness? nothing over 1/4" in a single pass. LLoyd |
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Any _relatively_ inexpensive TIGs?
On Apr 3, 12:31*pm, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: What thickness? nothing over 1/4" in a single pass. LLoyd With TIG you need to consider the minumum thicknesls as well as the max. Generally the less expensive welders will not weld thin material. Also 1/4 inch aluminum takes a bunch of amps. If I recall correctly Ernie uses 1 amp per .001 of thickness as a starting point. So 1/4 needs a welder capable of 250 amps. I also do not understand all the posts that say they can not see the puddle when welding aluminum. You do have to use AC to get the cleaning power needed to keep the aluminum oxide from obscuring the puddle, and start with absolutely no oxide on the aluminum. And of course adequate inert gas. But you should be able to see the puddle. I suspect those people did not clean the aluminum well enough. The aluminum oxide is clear. Scrubbing with a stainless brush is not enough. Use some sandpaper first, followed by the stainless brush just before welding. Start with some 1/16 to 1/8 inch material and just get a puddle and move the puddle from one end to the other. When I first tried aluminum I had been welding steel. And I did not use enough heat to get a puddle. Dan |
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Any _relatively_ inexpensive TIGs?
wrote in message ... On Apr 3, 12:31 pm, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: What thickness? nothing over 1/4" in a single pass. LLoyd With TIG you need to consider the minumum thicknesls as well as the max. Generally the less expensive welders will not weld thin material. Also 1/4 inch aluminum takes a bunch of amps. If I recall correctly Ernie uses 1 amp per .001 of thickness as a starting point. So 1/4 needs a welder capable of 250 amps. I also do not understand all the posts that say they can not see the puddle when welding aluminum. You do have to use AC to get the cleaning power needed to keep the aluminum oxide from obscuring the puddle, and start with absolutely no oxide on the aluminum. And of course adequate inert gas. But you should be able to see the puddle. I suspect those people did not clean the aluminum well enough. The aluminum oxide is clear. Scrubbing with a stainless brush is not enough. Use some sandpaper first, followed by the stainless brush just before welding. Start with some 1/16 to 1/8 inch material and just get a puddle and move the puddle from one end to the other. When I first tried aluminum I had been welding steel. And I did not use enough heat to get a puddle. Dan I had to go to a 14 lens to finally see the puddle. Other than that, everything was white. Try a 14 gold. Steve |
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