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Price question, Atlas 6"
hi guys, what do you think of this price?
http://neworleans.craigslist.org/tls/1069626964.html Atlas Craftsman 6" Lathe (Pics) - $300 (Prairieville La.) Reply to: [Errors when replying to ads?] Date: 2009-03-10, 10:05PM CDT New belts, new motor. very little tooling. no extra gears. Good shape. Can be seen at http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/bsa050/ Keep Clicking on pics untill fullpage -- Jedd Haas - Artist - New Orleans, LA http://www.gallerytungsten.com |
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Price question, Atlas 6"
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:32:34 -0500, Jedd Haas wrote:
hi guys, what do you think of this price? http://neworleans.craigslist.org/tls/1069626964.html Atlas Craftsman 6" Lathe (Pics) - $300 (Prairieville La.) Reply to: [Errors when replying to ads?] Date: 2009-03-10, 10:05PM CDT New belts, new motor. very little tooling. no extra gears. Good shape. Can be seen at http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/bsa050/ Keep Clicking on pics untill fullpage Snag it! Has the center rest, the steady rest, no change gears , but decent looking for the $300. Might be clapped out, but looks well taken care of. Change gears can be found on ebay. Tooling is easy to scrounge. Gunner "Human nature is bad. Good is a human product* A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual and moral principles." —Sun Tzu * |
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Price question, Atlas 6"
"Jedd Haas" wrote in message ... hi guys, what do you think of this price? http://neworleans.craigslist.org/tls/1069626964.html Atlas Craftsman 6" Lathe (Pics) - $300 (Prairieville La.) Reply to: [Errors when replying to ads?] Date: 2009-03-10, 10:05PM CDT New belts, new motor. very little tooling. no extra gears. Good shape. Can be seen at http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/bsa050/ Keep Clicking on pics untill fullpage -- Jedd Haas - Artist - New Orleans, LA http://www.gallerytungsten.com Seems as if might be high these days. I have one, but rarely use it. Also not interested in selling same. Drive belt setup looks better than mine. |
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Price question, Atlas 6"
Price is not too bad but certainly no bargain.
"no extra gears" means no change gears, means no threading. You could replace them but they are spendy for the full set. "very little tooling" means a fair number of bucks to get to the point where you want to be. Example: I bought a nice little Logan 200 lathe for $300. By the time I got done with a new head stock bearing, replacing 1 missing change gear, adding a quick change tool post, replacing the trashed out 3 jaw, and some misc items I doubled the price. Jedd Haas wrote: hi guys, what do you think of this price? http://neworleans.craigslist.org/tls/1069626964.html Atlas Craftsman 6" Lathe (Pics) - $300 (Prairieville La.) Reply to: [Errors when replying to ads?] Date: 2009-03-10, 10:05PM CDT New belts, new motor. very little tooling. no extra gears. Good shape. Can be seen at http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/bsa050/ Keep Clicking on pics untill fullpage |
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Price question, Atlas 6"
On Mar 10, 9:32*pm, Jedd Haas wrote:
hi guys, what do you think of this price? http://neworleans.craigslist.org/tls/1069626964.html Atlas Craftsman 6" Lathe (Pics) - $300 (Prairieville La.) Reply to: [Errors when replying to ads?] Date: 2009-03-10, 10:05PM CDT New belts, new motor. very little tooling. no extra gears. Good shape. Can be seen athttp://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/bsa050/Keep Clicking on pics untill fullpage -- Jedd Haas - Artist - New Orleans, LAhttp://www.gallerytungsten.com For not much more than that(on sale), you can get a 7x with a full set of change gears, a #3 Morse headstock taper, a #2 Morse tailstock taper and current support(littlemachineshop.com). You can even get metric half-nuts and leadscrew for cheap. Those Atlas lathes were cute, but the spindle is wimpy. Last one I saw here for sale the guy wanted $700, had the gears and some tooling, though. Haven't seen one for 10 years or so since. Stan |
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Price question, Atlas 6"
On 2009-03-11, Jedd Haas wrote:
hi guys, what do you think of this price? http://neworleans.craigslist.org/tls/1069626964.html Atlas Craftsman 6" Lathe (Pics) - $300 (Prairieville La.) Reply to: [Errors when replying to ads?] Date: 2009-03-10, 10:05PM CDT New belts, new motor. very little tooling. no extra gears. Good shape. Can be seen at http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/bsa050/ Keep Clicking on pics untill fullpage - Old enough so it has bronze bearings instead of ball or roller bearings. ? Only a 3-jaw chuck -- and what looks like some square rod bent into an 'L' to act as the wrench for the chuck. - You can only cut a single thread pitch -- whatever the gears in the headstock are currently set for. You really *need* the other gears to make it a useful lathe. + A steady rest to fit the lathe -- and maybe two clamp blocks to choose from to hold it down. + A 1-2" micrometer (I think). + A spare belt. + A rather nice chip tray under it -- if that comes with it. - No four-jaw chuck. - No faceplate. ? Lantern style toolpost -- but no tool holders to go with it. + A tailstock center. - No tailstock drill chuck - No live center for the tailstock. + At least it has the tailstock, unlike the South Bend in the background of the third photo. ? No clue as to how worn the bed is. *If* the bed is unworn, and the same for the spindle bearings, then it *might* be worth that as a parts lathe to support another of the same design. Otherwise, there is too much missing. Those gears are Zamac castings, and many of them are failing by this age. I would personally be more interested in the South Bend in the background -- if the tailstock comes with it. Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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Price question, Atlas 6"
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"DoN. Nichols" wrote: On 2009-03-11, Jedd Haas wrote: hi guys, what do you think of this price? http://neworleans.craigslist.org/tls/1069626964.html Atlas Craftsman 6" Lathe (Pics) - $300 (Prairieville La.) Reply to: [Errors when replying to ads?] Date: 2009-03-10, 10:05PM CDT New belts, new motor. very little tooling. no extra gears. Good shape. Can be seen at http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/bsa050/ Keep Clicking on pics untill fullpage - Old enough so it has bronze bearings instead of ball or roller bearings. ? Only a 3-jaw chuck -- and what looks like some square rod bent into an 'L' to act as the wrench for the chuck. - You can only cut a single thread pitch -- whatever the gears in the headstock are currently set for. You really *need* the other gears to make it a useful lathe. + A steady rest to fit the lathe -- and maybe two clamp blocks to choose from to hold it down. + A 1-2" micrometer (I think). + A spare belt. + A rather nice chip tray under it -- if that comes with it. - No four-jaw chuck. - No faceplate. ? Lantern style toolpost -- but no tool holders to go with it. + A tailstock center. - No tailstock drill chuck - No live center for the tailstock. + At least it has the tailstock, unlike the South Bend in the background of the third photo. ? No clue as to how worn the bed is. *If* the bed is unworn, and the same for the spindle bearings, then it *might* be worth that as a parts lathe to support another of the same design. Otherwise, there is too much missing. Those gears are Zamac castings, and many of them are failing by this age. I would personally be more interested in the South Bend in the background -- if the tailstock comes with it. Enjoy, DoN. He does say at the end of the ad that "Every thing for sale"... (The chip tray does come with it.) -- Jedd Haas - Artist - New Orleans, LA http://www.gallerytungsten.com |
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Price question, Atlas 6"
"DoN. Nichols" wrote:
On 2009-03-11, Jedd Haas wrote: hi guys, what do you think of this price? http://neworleans.craigslist.org/tls/1069626964.html Atlas Craftsman 6" Lathe (Pics) - $300 (Prairieville La.) Reply to: [Errors when replying to ads?] Date: 2009-03-10, 10:05PM CDT New belts, new motor. very little tooling. no extra gears. Good shape. Can be seen at http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/bsa050/ Keep Clicking on pics untill fullpage - Old enough so it has bronze bearings instead of ball or roller bearings. ? Only a 3-jaw chuck -- and what looks like some square rod bent into an 'L' to act as the wrench for the chuck. - You can only cut a single thread pitch -- whatever the gears in the headstock are currently set for. You really *need* the other gears to make it a useful lathe. + A steady rest to fit the lathe -- and maybe two clamp blocks to choose from to hold it down. + A 1-2" micrometer (I think). + A spare belt. + A rather nice chip tray under it -- if that comes with it. - No four-jaw chuck. - No faceplate. ? Lantern style toolpost -- but no tool holders to go with it. + A tailstock center. - No tailstock drill chuck - No live center for the tailstock. + At least it has the tailstock, unlike the South Bend in the background of the third photo. ? No clue as to how worn the bed is. *If* the bed is unworn, and the same for the spindle bearings, then it *might* be worth that as a parts lathe to support another of the same design. Otherwise, there is too much missing. Those gears are Zamac castings, and many of them are failing by this age. I would personally be more interested in the South Bend in the background -- if the tailstock comes with it. Enjoy, DoN. The lathe I see in the pictures is the Timken bearing equipped model. There are no obvious signs of abuse (e.g. broken cranks). I think the price is not out of line, if the machine is in decent shape. The one thing that is curious is that the belt on the spindle looks new, implying the headstock was torn down recently. Why? Did he do a good job? -Bruno |
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Price question, Atlas 6"
Bruno wrote:
"DoN. Nichols" wrote: On 2009-03-11, Jedd Haas wrote: hi guys, what do you think of this price? http://neworleans.craigslist.org/tls/1069626964.html Atlas Craftsman 6" Lathe (Pics) - $300 (Prairieville La.) Reply to: [Errors when replying to ads?] Date: 2009-03-10, 10:05PM CDT New belts, new motor. very little tooling. no extra gears. Good shape. Can be seen at http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/bsa050/ Keep Clicking on pics untill fullpage - Old enough so it has bronze bearings instead of ball or roller bearings. ? Only a 3-jaw chuck -- and what looks like some square rod bent into an 'L' to act as the wrench for the chuck. - You can only cut a single thread pitch -- whatever the gears in the headstock are currently set for. You really *need* the other gears to make it a useful lathe. + A steady rest to fit the lathe -- and maybe two clamp blocks to choose from to hold it down. + A 1-2" micrometer (I think). + A spare belt. + A rather nice chip tray under it -- if that comes with it. - No four-jaw chuck. - No faceplate. ? Lantern style toolpost -- but no tool holders to go with it. + A tailstock center. - No tailstock drill chuck - No live center for the tailstock. + At least it has the tailstock, unlike the South Bend in the background of the third photo. ? No clue as to how worn the bed is. *If* the bed is unworn, and the same for the spindle bearings, then it *might* be worth that as a parts lathe to support another of the same design. Otherwise, there is too much missing. Those gears are Zamac castings, and many of them are failing by this age. I would personally be more interested in the South Bend in the background -- if the tailstock comes with it. Enjoy, DoN. The lathe I see in the pictures is the Timken bearing equipped model. There are no obvious signs of abuse (e.g. broken cranks). I think the price is not out of line, if the machine is in decent shape. I have bought and sold several of those. If that were local to me (DFW), it would be gone in 30 minutes, and his phone would ring for days. The one thing that is curious is that the belt on the spindle looks new, implying the headstock was torn down recently. Why? Did he do a good job? Having done that (on that exact lathe) and screwed up a spindle, that's a valid question. |
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Price question, Atlas 6"
I would not pay more than 100 USD for one of these, and that only if I
am drunk. i On 2009-03-13, RB wrote: Bruno wrote: "DoN. Nichols" wrote: On 2009-03-11, Jedd Haas wrote: hi guys, what do you think of this price? http://neworleans.craigslist.org/tls/1069626964.html Atlas Craftsman 6" Lathe (Pics) - $300 (Prairieville La.) Reply to: [Errors when replying to ads?] Date: 2009-03-10, 10:05PM CDT New belts, new motor. very little tooling. no extra gears. Good shape. Can be seen at http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/bsa050/ Keep Clicking on pics untill fullpage - Old enough so it has bronze bearings instead of ball or roller bearings. ? Only a 3-jaw chuck -- and what looks like some square rod bent into an 'L' to act as the wrench for the chuck. - You can only cut a single thread pitch -- whatever the gears in the headstock are currently set for. You really *need* the other gears to make it a useful lathe. + A steady rest to fit the lathe -- and maybe two clamp blocks to choose from to hold it down. + A 1-2" micrometer (I think). + A spare belt. + A rather nice chip tray under it -- if that comes with it. - No four-jaw chuck. - No faceplate. ? Lantern style toolpost -- but no tool holders to go with it. + A tailstock center. - No tailstock drill chuck - No live center for the tailstock. + At least it has the tailstock, unlike the South Bend in the background of the third photo. ? No clue as to how worn the bed is. *If* the bed is unworn, and the same for the spindle bearings, then it *might* be worth that as a parts lathe to support another of the same design. Otherwise, there is too much missing. Those gears are Zamac castings, and many of them are failing by this age. I would personally be more interested in the South Bend in the background -- if the tailstock comes with it. Enjoy, DoN. The lathe I see in the pictures is the Timken bearing equipped model. There are no obvious signs of abuse (e.g. broken cranks). I think the price is not out of line, if the machine is in decent shape. I have bought and sold several of those. If that were local to me (DFW), it would be gone in 30 minutes, and his phone would ring for days. The one thing that is curious is that the belt on the spindle looks new, implying the headstock was torn down recently. Why? Did he do a good job? Having done that (on that exact lathe) and screwed up a spindle, that's a valid question. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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Price question, Atlas 6"
On 2009-03-13, Bruno wrote:
"DoN. Nichols" wrote: On 2009-03-11, Jedd Haas wrote: hi guys, what do you think of this price? http://neworleans.craigslist.org/tls/1069626964.html Atlas Craftsman 6" Lathe (Pics) - $300 (Prairieville La.) Reply to: [Errors when replying to ads?] Date: 2009-03-10, 10:05PM CDT New belts, new motor. very little tooling. no extra gears. Good shape. Can be seen at http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/bsa050/ Keep Clicking on pics untill fullpage - Old enough so it has bronze bearings instead of ball or roller bearings. [ ... ] The lathe I see in the pictures is the Timken bearing equipped model. Hmm ... not sure there. It looks as though it has gits oilers placed where they would have difficulty feeding into the bearings themselves. But they do look a bit larger in diameter than I remember for my bronze bearing model, so how does the oil reach the bearings? There are no obvious signs of abuse (e.g. broken cranks). And given how much zamac was used in building those, that is a good sign. I think the price is not out of line, if the machine is in decent shape. Perhaps -- but I'm not sure. The one thing that is curious is that the belt on the spindle looks new, implying the headstock was torn down recently. Why? Did he do a good job? Another good question. Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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"DoN. Nichols" wrote:
On 2009-03-13, Bruno wrote: "DoN. Nichols" wrote: [ ... ] The lathe I see in the pictures is the Timken bearing equipped model. Hmm ... not sure there. It looks as though it has gits oilers placed where they would have difficulty feeding into the bearings themselves. But they do look a bit larger in diameter than I remember for my bronze bearing model, so how does the oil reach the bearings? DoN, the oilers were right above the center of the spindle. The Timkin model has a single headstock casting around the spindle, the broze bearing model is split with those prominent bolts on the top (not seen in the picture). But the real clincher was the Timken Bearing Equipped decal on the front of the headstock. I couldn't read it in the picture, but I know the shape of it. -Bruno |
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Price question, Atlas 6"
On 2009-03-15, Bruno wrote:
"DoN. Nichols" wrote: On 2009-03-13, Bruno wrote: "DoN. Nichols" wrote: [ ... ] The lathe I see in the pictures is the Timken bearing equipped model. Hmm ... not sure there. It looks as though it has gits oilers placed where they would have difficulty feeding into the bearings themselves. But they do look a bit larger in diameter than I remember for my bronze bearing model, so how does the oil reach the bearings? DoN, the oilers were right above the center of the spindle. The Timkin model has a single headstock casting around the spindle, the broze bearing model is split with those prominent bolts on the top (not seen in the picture). But the real clincher was the Timken Bearing Equipped decal on the front of the headstock. I couldn't read it in the picture, but I know the shape of it. O.K. The one which I have is an old Atlas/Craftsman one with the bronze bearings. And I haven't used it for quite a few years now, with better machines in several sizes. Thanks, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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