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I puled an oldey out of the shed at work today and checked it out. looks
like it will work with a little effort
A "Rice Pump and Machinery Company", "Milwaukee die filer". It's a table-top
machine a lot like jigsaw but has a 3/8 square file in the chuck. Anyone
familiar with this machine? It appears to be missing whatever connects the
top of the file to spring loaded traveller on the overarm. If I see a
picture of one I can copy it.
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It appears to be missing whatever connects the
top of the file to spring loaded traveller on the overarm


It's possible they don't connect. On my 1930's Doall die filer, the
overarm acts like that on a scroll saw, providing downpressure to keep
the part on the machine's table. The spring just keeps the "foot"
tight against the part.
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I puled an oldey out of the shed at work today and checked it out. looks
like it will work with a little effort
A "Rice Pump and Machinery Company", "Milwaukee die filer". It's a table-top
machine a lot like jigsaw but has a 3/8 square file in the chuck. Anyone
familiar with this machine? It appears to be missing whatever connects the
top of the file to spring loaded traveller on the overarm. If I see a
picture of one I can copy it.
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Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

I have a die filer I built from a kit of castings and other parts that
is based on a/the basic die filer pattern. The files it uses cut on
the DOWN stroke. There is no overarm as one is not needed to keep the
part against the table. The downward cutting action of the file holds
the part against the table. Your machine may be similar. If the thing
works, and the file cuts on the downstroke, you have a nice tool. I
use mine for all sorts of contour filing on one off parts.
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I puled an oldey out of the shed at work today and checked it out. looks
like it will work with a little effort
A "Rice Pump and Machinery Company", "Milwaukee die filer". It's a
table-top
machine a lot like jigsaw but has a 3/8 square file in the chuck. Anyone
familiar with this machine? It appears to be missing whatever connects the
top of the file to spring loaded traveller on the overarm. If I see a
picture of one I can copy it.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty


Mine was missing the same thing. I made a couple of parts that clamp blades
to the spring loaded bar with a piece of copper buss bar I had laying
around.

I wouldn't worry about it much, though. The only time I use that attachment
is when I clamp a hacksaw blade in it for roughing out a interior opening.

Paul K. Dickman


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It's possible they don't connect. On my 1930's Doall die filer, the
overarm acts like that on a scroll saw, providing downpressure to keep
the part on the machine's table. The spring just keeps the "foot"
tight against the part.


That may be how it works. The existing mechanism works that way, so all I
need to do is attach a roller to one of the holes. It does cut on the
downstroke. There is also a 1/2 inch rod bent with a foot, that would be a
hard-stop, probaly leaves marks. I only have one file, but will look for
more. I'll get a picture of it next week. This thing is pre-war and probably
hasn't been used in 30 years. Boss says it came in a lot, from an auction in
the early 70s

Thanks guys
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SNIP

I wouldn't worry about it much, though. The only time I use that attachment
is when I clamp a hacksaw blade in it for roughing out a interior opening.

Paul K. Dickman

Hey Paul,

Huh???????? Wuzzat mean?

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SNIP

I wouldn't worry about it much, though. The only time I use that
attachment
is when I clamp a hacksaw blade in it for roughing out a interior opening.

Paul K. Dickman

Hey Paul,

Huh???????? Wuzzat mean?

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.


For using the diefiler like a scroll saw.
Like cutting out a big square hole in the middle of a slab of steel when the
hole doesn't touch the edges.

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It's possible they don't connect. On my 1930's Doall die filer, the
overarm acts like that on a scroll saw, providing downpressure to keep
the part on the machine's table. The spring just keeps the "foot"
tight against the part.


That may be how it works. The existing mechanism works that way, so all I
need to do is attach a roller to one of the holes. It does cut on the
downstroke. There is also a 1/2 inch rod bent with a foot, that would be a
hard-stop, probaly leaves marks. I only have one file, but will look for
more. I'll get a picture of it next week. This thing is pre-war and probably
hasn't been used in 30 years. Boss says it came in a lot, from an auction in
the early 70s

Thanks guys
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Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

I believe the files are called type A files. What I do is use files
with parallel sides, i.e. files that don't taper, and cut them to the
desired length plus enough to grind down to .250 dia. to fit into file
holder. Obviously, I use the files so they cut on the down stroke.
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I puled an oldey out of the shed at work today and checked it out. looks
like it will work with a little effort
A "Rice Pump and Machinery Company", "Milwaukee die filer". It's a
table-top
machine a lot like jigsaw but has a 3/8 square file in the chuck. Anyone
familiar with this machine? It appears to be missing whatever connects
the
top of the file to spring loaded traveller on the overarm. If I see a
picture of one I can copy it.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty


Mine was missing the same thing. I made a couple of parts that clamp
blades to the spring loaded bar with a piece of copper buss bar I had
laying around.

I wouldn't worry about it much, though. The only time I use that
attachment is when I clamp a hacksaw blade in it for roughing out a
interior opening.

Paul K. Dickman


I googled around and could not even come up with a decent photo of a
Milwaukee diefiler, let alone the blade clamp.

I shot some pictures of the one I made and put them up here.
http://flickr.com/photos/18070751@N05/3279457610/

Good luck

Paul K. Dickman


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I puled an oldey out of the shed at work today and checked it out. looks
like it will work with a little effort
A "Rice Pump and Machinery Company", "Milwaukee die filer". It's a
table-top
machine a lot like jigsaw but has a 3/8 square file in the chuck. Anyone
familiar with this machine? It appears to be missing whatever connects
the
top of the file to spring loaded traveller on the overarm. If I see a
picture of one I can copy it.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty


Mine was missing the same thing. I made a couple of parts that clamp
blades to the spring loaded bar with a piece of copper buss bar I had
laying around.

I wouldn't worry about it much, though. The only time I use that
attachment is when I clamp a hacksaw blade in it for roughing out a
interior opening.

Paul K. Dickman


I googled around and could not even come up with a decent photo of a
Milwaukee diefiler, let alone the blade clamp.

I shot some pictures of the one I made and put them up here.
http://flickr.com/photos/18070751@N05/3279457610/

Good luck

Paul K. Dickman


There are some pictures of my Milwaukee/Manley die filer he

http://memweb.newsguy.com/~mphenry/m..._die_filer.htm

Near as I can tell it is pretty much the same as the Rice version.

Mike



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I puled an oldey out of the shed at work today and checked it out. looks
like it will work with a little effort
A "Rice Pump and Machinery Company", "Milwaukee die filer". It's a
table-top
machine a lot like jigsaw but has a 3/8 square file in the chuck.
Anyone
familiar with this machine? It appears to be missing whatever connects
the
top of the file to spring loaded traveller on the overarm. If I see a
picture of one I can copy it.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

Mine was missing the same thing. I made a couple of parts that clamp
blades to the spring loaded bar with a piece of copper buss bar I had
laying around.

I wouldn't worry about it much, though. The only time I use that
attachment is when I clamp a hacksaw blade in it for roughing out a
interior opening.

Paul K. Dickman


I googled around and could not even come up with a decent photo of a
Milwaukee diefiler, let alone the blade clamp.

I shot some pictures of the one I made and put them up here.
http://flickr.com/photos/18070751@N05/3279457610/

Good luck

Paul K. Dickman


There are some pictures of my Milwaukee/Manley die filer he

http://memweb.newsguy.com/~mphenry/m..._die_filer.htm

Near as I can tell it is pretty much the same as the Rice version.

Mike

Nice work.
The page 4 years old, so I assume that you worked out that the misc parts
you had, are for use with the saw blade.

The original poster should take a look. The three pieces on the lower left,
are the ones he was looking for.

I have never seen the blade guides before.
Paul K. Dickman


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Thats it. I assume Paul is camping a saw blade or file between the copper
block and the allen?
Mine has a "C" shaped overarm with no height adjustment, and an "L" shaped
arm that is below with a flat surface to stop the work from coming up.

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Thats it. I assume Paul is camping a saw blade or file between the copper
block and the allen?
Mine has a "C" shaped overarm with no height adjustment, and an "L" shaped
arm that is below with a flat surface to stop the work from coming up.

No the screw pushes the copper jaw and the blade is clamped between it and
the steel slide.
If I clamp a file in it, I put an extra piece of copper sheet between the
file and the steel bar.

But as I said before, I almost never use it. A bandsaw blade welder made the
saw aspect less attractive and it is easier to avoid pushing on the
unsupported side of the file than it is to set up the arm.

I have seen the C overarm on other filers but never on a Milwaukee. But I
have only seen about a half dozen Milwaukees and most of them were missing
their arms.

Paul K. Dickman


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