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Fire Danger from storing oily stuff?
I know I can't do this with linseed oil, but I want to make sure it's
ok to store (motor-) oily paper towels and cardboard flats in a plastic trash bag until I have enough to take up to the city for proper disposal (?). Thanks, Dar |
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Fire Danger from storing oily stuff?
Dar wrote:
I know I can't do this with linseed oil, but I want to make sure it's ok to store (motor-) oily paper towels and cardboard flats in a plastic trash bag until I have enough to take up to the city for proper disposal (?). Thanks, Dar In a metal trash can outdoors? |
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Fire Danger from storing oily stuff?
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:54:27 -0800 (PST), Dar
wrote: I know I can't do this with linseed oil, but I want to make sure it's ok to store (motor-) oily paper towels and cardboard flats in a plastic trash bag until I have enough to take up to the city for proper disposal (?) With Linseed Oil and cotton or paper towels, hell no! You know, but for those that haven't heard (or read the MSDS) it will auto oxidize enough to self combust... Add water. Or better yet, **** off the Smog Nazi's and make a little Burn Barrel to safely dispose of it in a controlled manner. (Which beats the hell out of an UNcontrolled manner...) Keep on hand: Garden hoses, dry chem extinguishers, additional help and a hot phone line to dial 911. For other oily wastes, I'd still put the plastic bag in a steel trash can or dedicated steel "Oily Waste" shop can or a loose-top steel drum, just in case. Inside or out, a steel container with a tight lid will contain a fire and snuff it from oxygen depletion. Just don't open the lid if it's still hot, or it's "Off to the races" again. -- Bruce -- |
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Fire Danger from storing oily stuff?
Dar wrote:
... I want to make sure it's ok to store (motor-) oily paper towels and cardboard flats in a plastic trash bag ... It is safe. Motor oil does not polymerize, which is the process that gives off heat by some oils (e.g., linseed). Or ... something like that. Also, I have often stored oily rags without any indication that they were about to go ablaze. Bob |
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Fire Danger from storing oily stuff?
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:58:59 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Dar wrote: I know I can't do this with linseed oil, but I want to make sure it's ok to store (motor-) oily paper towels and cardboard flats in a plastic trash bag until I have enough to take up to the city for proper disposal (?). Thanks, Dar In a metal trash can outdoors? With a tightly closed metal cover. "If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees." Bill Clinton 1993-08-12 |
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Fire Danger from storing oily stuff?
Bob Engelhardt wrote:
Dar wrote: ... I want to make sure it's ok to store (motor-) oily paper towels and cardboard flats in a plastic trash bag ... It is safe. Motor oil does not polymerize, which is the process that gives off heat by some oils (e.g., linseed). Or ... something like that. Also, I have often stored oily rags without any indication that they were about to go ablaze. Trying to put out a plastic bag full of oily scraps would be very hard to put out, if anything did catch it on fire. |
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Fire Danger from storing oily stuff?
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:59:55 -0500, Bob Engelhardt
wrote: Dar wrote: ... I want to make sure it's ok to store (motor-) oily paper towels and cardboard flats in a plastic trash bag ... It is safe. Motor oil does not polymerize, which is the process that gives off heat by some oils (e.g., linseed). Or ... something like that. Also, I have often stored oily rags without any indication that they were about to go ablaze. Bob Seconded. It's the oils that harden that are the problem. Motor and way oils etc don't undergo any significant reaction with air at room temperature, or they aren't useful for their job. Mark Rand RTFM |
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