Employee Free Choice Now . Org
Educating The World on The EFCA.

Myth vs. Reality: The REALITY is the Employee Free Choice Act Helps
American Workers and their Families.

Despite the need for reform, critics of EFCA continue to misinform the
public about the bill and hide the serious shortcomings of current
labor law. Democrats are committed to setting the record straight and
passing this important legislation on behalf of American workers and
their families.

MYTH: EFCA will prevent the use of secret-ballot elections.

REALITY: EFCA does not strip workers of their right to choose a
secret-ballot election to decide whether to select -- or not to select
-- a union representative. EFCA simply gives workers the additional
option of selecting a union representative by majority sign-up.

Organizing For America begins with the passing of the Employee Free
Choice Act.

The Employee Free Choice Act is nothing new it only reestablishes the
Joy Silk Doctrine of 1949

History

In 1949, the NLRB's Joy Silk Doctrine established that "an employer
could lawfully refuse to bargain with a union claiming representative
status through possession of authorization cards only if he had a
'good faith doubt' as to the union's majority status.This policy was
changed in 1966 with the ruling in Aaron Brothers, where "the Board
made it clear that it had shifted the burden to the General Counsel to
show bad faith and that an employer 'will not be held to have violated
his bargaining obligation... simply because he refuses to rely upon
cards. 'If passed, the proposed Employee Free Choice Act would return
the NLRB policy to the Joy Silk Doctrine and allow employer challenges
to card check elections only when illegal coercion or fraud is
charged.

In 1969, Chief Justice Earl Warren delivered the majority opinion for
the U.S. Supreme Court that upheld the use of card check. Warren
stated, "Almost from the inception of the Act, then, it was recognized
that a union did not have to be certified as the winner of a Board
election to invoke a bargaining obligation; it could establish
majority status by other means... by showing convincing support, for
instance, by a union-called strike or strike vote, or, as here, by
possession of cards signed by a majority of the employees authorizing
the union to represent them for collective bargaining purposes." The
Supreme Court has consistently ruled in favor of card check, and
Warren cited prior affirmations in NLRB v. Bradford Dyeing Assn.,
(1940); Franks Bros. Co. v. NLRB,[(1944); United Mine Workers v.
Arkansas Flooring Co., (1956).


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Employee Free Choice Now . Org
Educating The World on The EFCA.

Myth vs. Reality: The REALITY is the Employee Free Choice Act Helps
American Workers and their Families.

What a pile of crap! Yep, you'd better get rid of honest secret ballots,
unions have declined due to unions destroying the companies they invade like
parasites. Your unions have done nothing but hurt America for 50 years.
But, then you wouldn't have a job if you had to rely on skill and sobriety.

Buerste wrote:
wrote in message
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Employee Free Choice Now . Org
Educating The World on The EFCA.

Myth vs. Reality: The REALITY is the Employee Free Choice Act Helps
American Workers and their Families.

What a pile of crap! Yep, you'd better get rid of honest secret ballots,
unions have declined due to unions destroying the companies they invade like
parasites. Your unions have done nothing but hurt America for 50 years.
But, then you wouldn't have a job if you had to rely on skill and sobriety.




I love how one local union is getting handed their walking papers. One
of the local companies (Beech Nut) was just bought out by a company out
of Sweden. After the last flood they had the parent company (Hero)
decided they had to build a new plant. The one they are currently in is
over 100 years old and sits in a flood prone area (it's been flooded at
least 6 times according to the paperwork)
The town it is in was told about it and they proceeded to take the
company to court and the union stepped in doing the same thing.
The town and the union lost. The company is now building the new plant
about 30 miles away and told the current employees that they should
apply for jobs in the new NON-UNION plant. The union has been screaming
that they cannot do that because "they have a contract". The thing is
that the contract was declared non-enforceable because this is a NEW
company, with a NEW plant in a NEW town. So now the union is trying to
get other unions to stir up crap as well. One of the big ones was a
bunch of stories about how the steel used was going to be erected using
non-union labor.
GREAT, and it will likely get built for LESS money, faster and without
all of the "cost overruns" that always seem to be part of any union run
job.

--
Steve W.

"Buerste" wrote in message
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wrote in message
...
Employee Free Choice Now . Org
Educating The World on The EFCA.

Myth vs. Reality: The REALITY is the Employee Free Choice Act Helps
American Workers and their Families.

What a pile of crap! Yep, you'd better get rid of honest secret ballots,
unions have declined due to unions destroying the companies they invade
like
parasites. Your unions have done nothing but hurt America for 50 years.
But, then you wouldn't have a job if you had to rely on skill and
sobriety.


Look, you're a Bush supporter, a right winger, and a follower of
republicans. That alone means you don't know anything about what you are
talking about and therefore have not a shred of credibility. So why would
anyone listen to your ill-informed and ignorant opinion? The answer is they
wouldn't. It's like this, if Bush says something most everyone now thinks
it's automatically wrong because he's proven to be such a Bozo. It's the
same with you. If you say unions are bad then that automatically means they
are a good thing. Too bad we can't send you back to Texas with Bush so both
of you could never be heard from again. Then you could work at a low paying
non union job while you're there.

Hawke

"Steve W." wrote in message
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Buerste wrote:
wrote in message
...
Employee Free Choice Now . Org
Educating The World on The EFCA.

Myth vs. Reality: The REALITY is the Employee Free Choice Act Helps
American Workers and their Families.

What a pile of crap! Yep, you'd better get rid of honest secret ballots,
unions have declined due to unions destroying the companies they invade
like
parasites. Your unions have done nothing but hurt America for 50 years.
But, then you wouldn't have a job if you had to rely on skill and
sobriety.




I love how one local union is getting handed their walking papers. One
of the local companies (Beech Nut) was just bought out by a company out
of Sweden. After the last flood they had the parent company (Hero)
decided they had to build a new plant. The one they are currently in is
over 100 years old and sits in a flood prone area (it's been flooded at
least 6 times according to the paperwork)
The town it is in was told about it and they proceeded to take the
company to court and the union stepped in doing the same thing.
The town and the union lost. The company is now building the new plant
about 30 miles away and told the current employees that they should
apply for jobs in the new NON-UNION plant. The union has been screaming
that they cannot do that because "they have a contract". The thing is
that the contract was declared non-enforceable because this is a NEW
company, with a NEW plant in a NEW town. So now the union is trying to
get other unions to stir up crap as well. One of the big ones was a
bunch of stories about how the steel used was going to be erected using
non-union labor.
GREAT, and it will likely get built for LESS money, faster and without
all of the "cost overruns" that always seem to be part of any union run
job.

--
Steve W.

I can't understand how anyone with two firing synapses can defend unions.
Let's see who comes to Ron's call. Probably the same non-metalworking
trolls as usual.

On Jan 20, 2:06*am, "Buerste" wrote:
"Steve W." wrote in message

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Buerste wrote:
wrote in message
....
Employee Free Choice Now . Org
Educating The World on The EFCA.

Myth vs. Reality: The REALITY is the Employee Free Choice Act Helps
American Workers and their Families.

What a pile of crap! *Yep, you'd better get rid of honest secret ballots,
unions have declined due to unions destroying the companies they invade
like
parasites. *Your unions have done nothing but hurt America for 50 years.
But, then you wouldn't have a job if you had to rely on skill and
sobriety.

I love how one local union is getting handed their walking papers. One
of the local companies (Beech Nut) was just bought out by a company out
of Sweden. After the last flood they had the parent company (Hero)
decided they had to build a new plant. The one they are currently in is
over 100 years old and sits in a flood prone area (it's been flooded at
least 6 times according to the paperwork)
The town it is in was told about it and they proceeded to take the
company to court and the union stepped in doing the same thing.
The town and the union lost. The company is now building the new plant
about 30 miles away and told the current employees that they should
apply for jobs in the new NON-UNION plant. The union has been screaming
that they cannot do that because "they have a contract". The thing is
that the contract was declared non-enforceable because this is a NEW
company, with a NEW plant in a NEW town. So now the union is trying to
get other unions to stir up crap as well. One of the big ones was a
bunch of stories about how the steel used was going to be erected using
non-union labor.
GREAT, and it will likely get built for LESS money, faster and without
all of the "cost overruns" that always seem to be part of any union run
job.

--
Steve W.

I can't understand how anyone with two firing synapses can defend unions.
Let's see who comes to Ron's call. *Probably the same non-metalworking
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I for one agree unions (with a few exceptions) are bad news. It was
amazing how vocal the unions were during the auto bailout negotiations
in saying they felt they should have no givebacks. Why do you think
the American automakers are in such bad shape? Is it just a
coincidence that the non union automakers are doing much better than
their unionized counterparts?

Unions had their place back before the days of OSHA and other federal
laws governing employee pay, safety etc, but they dont anymore.

The EMployee Free Choice Act (AKA Employee No Choice Act) is just
another attempt to get more power for the unions, so they can more
easily organize more facilities, making more money for them so they
can take your money and fatten their wallets and contribute to
political parties and legislation you may or may not approve of. (Such
as gun control laws.)

And the person that said this law will not change anythign is
nonsense. The union can use home visits and other tatics to coherice
people to sign cards. Once you sign a card and if you change your
mind, good luck getting that card back you never will.

Secret ballet elections are a right workers have in deciding to have
or not to have a union. DOnt let the government (or anyone else) take
away this right!

Hawke wrote:

Look, you're a Bush supporter, a right winger, and a follower of
republicans. That alone means you don't know anything about what you are
talking about and therefore have not a shred of credibility. So why would
anyone listen to your ill-informed and ignorant opinion? The answer is they
wouldn't. It's like this, if Bush says something most everyone now thinks
it's automatically wrong because he's proven to be such a Bozo. It's the
same with you. If you say unions are bad then that automatically means they
are a good thing. Too bad we can't send you back to Texas with Bush so both
of you could never be heard from again. Then you could work at a low paying
non union job while you're there.

Hawke

Dunno about Bürste, but I'm not a Bush supporter, a right winger or a
follower of Republicans, or follower of anybody for that matter. I
have been a union member, though.

If a company has degraded to the point where it needs a union to
protect the workers, the best thing to do is to dissolve the company.
Better that than bring in a union. The union will destroy the company
anyway, but also the little remaining self respect of the workers.

David