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304 stainless, and brass, in shower
A friend of mine had a shower head fail. That head was made of two
parts -- top and bottom -- fastened together using a small copper strap. That strap failed and the head opened up and was spraying water all over the place from that opening. (in case if anyone remembers, I had the same exact problem with my own shower, which was actually identical because that friend and my wife decided to buy the same kind of shower). In any case, I fixed her shower head, by drilling and countersinking and tapping four holes around the perimeter, and screwing in flat head screws made of 304 stainless. The end result was relatively nice looking. The shower head is made of chrome plated brass and the screws are made from 304 stainless. After some thinking, I decided to double check and see whether there is any downside to having that stuff together, such as galvanic corrosion. I do not anticipate a need to take that head apart. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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Ignoramus8783 wrote:
A friend of mine had a shower head fail. That head was made of two parts -- top and bottom -- fastened together using a small copper strap. That strap failed and the head opened up and was spraying water all over the place from that opening. (in case if anyone remembers, I had the same exact problem with my own shower, which was actually identical because that friend and my wife decided to buy the same kind of shower). In any case, I fixed her shower head, by drilling and countersinking and tapping four holes around the perimeter, and screwing in flat head screws made of 304 stainless. The end result was relatively nice looking. The shower head is made of chrome plated brass and the screws are made from 304 stainless. After some thinking, I decided to double check and see whether there is any downside to having that stuff together, such as galvanic corrosion. I do not anticipate a need to take that head apart. This is an extremely dangerous setup. The stainless steel will react with the brass and chome and minerals in the water and make a high explosive that can be very sensitive when dry. |
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On 2009-01-02, Cydrome Leader wrote:
Ignoramus8783 wrote: A friend of mine had a shower head fail. That head was made of two parts -- top and bottom -- fastened together using a small copper strap. That strap failed and the head opened up and was spraying water all over the place from that opening. (in case if anyone remembers, I had the same exact problem with my own shower, which was actually identical because that friend and my wife decided to buy the same kind of shower). In any case, I fixed her shower head, by drilling and countersinking and tapping four holes around the perimeter, and screwing in flat head screws made of 304 stainless. The end result was relatively nice looking. The shower head is made of chrome plated brass and the screws are made from 304 stainless. After some thinking, I decided to double check and see whether there is any downside to having that stuff together, such as galvanic corrosion. I do not anticipate a need to take that head apart. This is an extremely dangerous setup. The stainless steel will react with the brass and chome and minerals in the water and make a high explosive that can be very sensitive when dry. Just for your information, most people shower daily, and for them, there is no risk of that high explosive compound to form in their dry showers. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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"Ignoramus8783" wrote in message ... On 2009-01-02, Cydrome Leader wrote: Ignoramus8783 wrote: A friend of mine had a shower head fail. That head was made of two parts -- top and bottom -- fastened together using a small copper strap. That strap failed and the head opened up and was spraying water all over the place from that opening. (in case if anyone remembers, I had the same exact problem with my own shower, which was actually identical because that friend and my wife decided to buy the same kind of shower). In any case, I fixed her shower head, by drilling and countersinking and tapping four holes around the perimeter, and screwing in flat head screws made of 304 stainless. The end result was relatively nice Snip This is an extremely dangerous setup. The stainless steel will react with the brass and chome and minerals in the water and make a high explosive that can be very sensitive when dry. Just for your information, most people shower daily, and for them, there is no risk of that high explosive compound to form in their dry showers. High explosive compound! I'ne spent 35 years in the food and beverage industry, and often used brass and stainless fittings on non-product pipelines.. I have no idea what explosive compound could be formed,but the chances of it causing an explosion are anout the same as winning Lotto first division thee weeks in a row! |
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On 2009-01-02, Grumpy wrote:
"Ignoramus8783" wrote in message ... On 2009-01-02, Cydrome Leader wrote: Ignoramus8783 wrote: A friend of mine had a shower head fail. That head was made of two parts -- top and bottom -- fastened together using a small copper strap. That strap failed and the head opened up and was spraying water all over the place from that opening. (in case if anyone remembers, I had the same exact problem with my own shower, which was actually identical because that friend and my wife decided to buy the same kind of shower). In any case, I fixed her shower head, by drilling and countersinking and tapping four holes around the perimeter, and screwing in flat head screws made of 304 stainless. The end result was relatively nice Snip This is an extremely dangerous setup. The stainless steel will react with the brass and chome and minerals in the water and make a high explosive that can be very sensitive when dry. Just for your information, most people shower daily, and for them, there is no risk of that high explosive compound to form in their dry showers. High explosive compound! I'ne spent 35 years in the food and beverage industry, and often used brass and stainless fittings on non-product pipelines.. I have no idea what explosive compound could be formed,but the chances of it causing an explosion are anout the same as winning Lotto first division thee weeks in a row! We were both joking. Nice to hear about your experience, this means I have nothing to worry about. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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Ignoramus8783 wrote:
On 2009-01-02, Cydrome Leader wrote: Ignoramus8783 wrote: A friend of mine had a shower head fail. That head was made of two parts -- top and bottom -- fastened together using a small copper strap. That strap failed and the head opened up and was spraying water all over the place from that opening. (in case if anyone remembers, I had the same exact problem with my own shower, which was actually identical because that friend and my wife decided to buy the same kind of shower). In any case, I fixed her shower head, by drilling and countersinking and tapping four holes around the perimeter, and screwing in flat head screws made of 304 stainless. The end result was relatively nice looking. The shower head is made of chrome plated brass and the screws are made from 304 stainless. After some thinking, I decided to double check and see whether there is any downside to having that stuff together, such as galvanic corrosion. I do not anticipate a need to take that head apart. This is an extremely dangerous setup. The stainless steel will react with the brass and chome and minerals in the water and make a high explosive that can be very sensitive when dry. Just for your information, most people shower daily, and for them, there is no risk of that high explosive compound to form in their dry showers. So you know all this, but can't figure out of you can use a stainless steel screw near brass and potable water? Since it's just a matter of time before you ask how to tie your shoes, here's a link now: http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/standardknot.htm |
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May seem funny, CL, but I never learned that way. Being a southpaw,
right-handed teachers had no clue how to teach left handers to tie laces like that. I think my mom got frustrated trying to figure it out, anyways, I just tie laces like tying a bunnie's ears together. I saw Larry commented on shoe bows a while ago, saying something negative (IIRC) about folks who's shoe bows go up 'n down, instead of across the foot. I never put too much importance on the method, it just never mattered enough to me whether my laces looked like others. If I were to try doing them the other way now, it might be difficult, maybe knot. -- WB .......... metalworking projects www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... So you know all this, but can't figure out of you can use a stainless steel screw near brass and potable water? Since it's just a matter of time before you ask how to tie your shoes, here's a link now: http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/standardknot.htm |
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304 stainless, and brass, in shower
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 18:45:55 -0500, the infamous "Wild_Bill"
scrawled the following: May seem funny, CL, but I never learned that way. Being a southpaw, right-handed teachers had no clue how to teach left handers to tie laces like that. I think my mom got frustrated trying to figure it out, anyways, I just tie laces like tying a bunnie's ears together. I saw Larry commented on shoe bows a while ago, saying something negative (IIRC) about folks who's shoe bows go up 'n down, instead of across the foot. I never put too much importance on the method, it just never mattered enough to me whether my laces looked like others. If I were to try doing them the other way now, it might be difficult, maybe knot. I commented that I had been tying my shoelaces wrong all those years and hadn't even realized it. --LJ, head of the Rogue Valley Granny Knotters. ------ We're born hungry, wet, 'n naked, and it gets worse from there. |
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Wild_Bill wrote:
May seem funny, CL, but I never learned that way. Being a southpaw, right-handed teachers had no clue how to teach left handers to tie laces like that. I think my mom got frustrated trying to figure it out, anyways, I just tie laces like tying a bunnie's ears together. I was taught that way- with two loops at first. It was supposed to be easier, not sure how though. Making two loops then tying that up seems way harder. Then of couse, I've tried using left hand scissors, and it didn't work. |
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On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 23:19:47 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Ignoramus8783 wrote: On 2009-01-02, Cydrome Leader wrote: Ignoramus8783 wrote: A friend of mine had a shower head fail. That head was made of two parts -- top and bottom -- fastened together using a small copper strap. That strap failed and the head opened up and was spraying water all over the place from that opening. (in case if anyone remembers, I had the same exact problem with my own shower, which was actually identical because that friend and my wife decided to buy the same kind of shower). In any case, I fixed her shower head, by drilling and countersinking and tapping four holes around the perimeter, and screwing in flat head screws made of 304 stainless. The end result was relatively nice looking. The shower head is made of chrome plated brass and the screws are made from 304 stainless. After some thinking, I decided to double check and see whether there is any downside to having that stuff together, such as galvanic corrosion. I do not anticipate a need to take that head apart. This is an extremely dangerous setup. The stainless steel will react with the brass and chome and minerals in the water and make a high explosive that can be very sensitive when dry. Just for your information, most people shower daily, and for them, there is no risk of that high explosive compound to form in their dry showers. So you know all this, but can't figure out of you can use a stainless steel screw near brass and potable water? Since it's just a matter of time before you ask how to tie your shoes, here's a link now: http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/standardknot.htm This is a reef knot with standing bights. OK for laces on dress oxfords and ballet slippers, doesn't hold with rawhide laces. However, The Ashley Book Of Knots may be illegal in Illinois. |
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:12:14 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus8783
scrawled the following: On 2009-01-02, Cydrome Leader wrote: Ignoramus8783 wrote: A friend of mine had a shower head fail. That head was made of two parts -- top and bottom -- fastened together using a small copper strap. That strap failed and the head opened up and was spraying water all over the place from that opening. (in case if anyone remembers, I had the same exact problem with my own shower, which was actually identical because that friend and my wife decided to buy the same kind of shower). In any case, I fixed her shower head, by drilling and countersinking and tapping four holes around the perimeter, and screwing in flat head screws made of 304 stainless. The end result was relatively nice looking. The shower head is made of chrome plated brass and the screws are made from 304 stainless. After some thinking, I decided to double check and see whether there is any downside to having that stuff together, such as galvanic corrosion. I do not anticipate a need to take that head apart. This is an extremely dangerous setup. The stainless steel will react with the brass and chome and minerals in the water and make a high explosive that can be very sensitive when dry. Just for your information, most people shower daily, and for them, there is no risk of that high explosive compound to form in their dry showers. The moral of the story is "Shower _daily_ or DIE, scumbag!" ------ We're born hungry, wet, 'n naked, and it gets worse from there. |
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On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:01:01 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Ignoramus8783 wrote: A friend of mine had a shower head fail. That head was made of two parts -- top and bottom -- fastened together using a small copper strap. That strap failed and the head opened up and was spraying water all over the place from that opening. (in case if anyone remembers, I had the same exact problem with my own shower, which was actually identical because that friend and my wife decided to buy the same kind of shower). In any case, I fixed her shower head, by drilling and countersinking and tapping four holes around the perimeter, and screwing in flat head screws made of 304 stainless. The end result was relatively nice looking. The shower head is made of chrome plated brass and the screws are made from 304 stainless. After some thinking, I decided to double check and see whether there is any downside to having that stuff together, such as galvanic corrosion. I do not anticipate a need to take that head apart. This is an extremely dangerous setup. The stainless steel will react with the brass and chome and minerals in the water and make a high explosive that can be very sensitive when dry. Indeed! Trichromium Hexadexaquafloride. But its only really sensitive to nutrinos. If it gets hit with more than 3*4th in a nanosecond...it goes into a sort of epileptic fit and tries to be in two places at the same time. And since two things cannot occuply the same space at the same time...it generates antimatter...and we all know what happens when THAT happens... Brrrrrrr!! Crater City! Gunner "Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every quality that morons esteem in their heroes."" |
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:01:01 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ignoramus8783 wrote: A friend of mine had a shower head fail. That head was made of two parts -- top and bottom -- fastened together using a small copper strap. That strap failed and the head opened up and was spraying water all over the place from that opening. (in case if anyone remembers, I had the same exact problem with my own shower, which was actually identical because that friend and my wife decided to buy the same kind of shower). In any case, I fixed her shower head, by drilling and countersinking and tapping four holes around the perimeter, and screwing in flat head screws made of 304 stainless. The end result was relatively nice looking. The shower head is made of chrome plated brass and the screws are made from 304 stainless. After some thinking, I decided to double check and see whether there is any downside to having that stuff together, such as galvanic corrosion. I do not anticipate a need to take that head apart. This is an extremely dangerous setup. The stainless steel will react with the brass and chome and minerals in the water and make a high explosive that can be very sensitive when dry. Indeed! Trichromium Hexadexaquafloride. But its only really sensitive to nutrinos. If it gets hit with more than 3*4th in a nanosecond...it goes into a sort of epileptic fit and tries to be in two places at the same time. And since two things cannot occuply the same space at the same time...it generates antimatter...and we all know what happens when THAT happens... Brrrrrrr!! Crater City! Gunner Ahh! The high nutrino fluxis the cause. That explains why I've never experienced it. All our plants were shielded with Nutroshield |
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On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:26:16 +1100, "Grumpy"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:01:01 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ignoramus8783 wrote: A friend of mine had a shower head fail. That head was made of two parts -- top and bottom -- fastened together using a small copper strap. That strap failed and the head opened up and was spraying water all over the place from that opening. (in case if anyone remembers, I had the same exact problem with my own shower, which was actually identical because that friend and my wife decided to buy the same kind of shower). In any case, I fixed her shower head, by drilling and countersinking and tapping four holes around the perimeter, and screwing in flat head screws made of 304 stainless. The end result was relatively nice looking. The shower head is made of chrome plated brass and the screws are made from 304 stainless. After some thinking, I decided to double check and see whether there is any downside to having that stuff together, such as galvanic corrosion. I do not anticipate a need to take that head apart. This is an extremely dangerous setup. The stainless steel will react with the brass and chome and minerals in the water and make a high explosive that can be very sensitive when dry. Indeed! Trichromium Hexadexaquafloride. But its only really sensitive to nutrinos. If it gets hit with more than 3*4th in a nanosecond...it goes into a sort of epileptic fit and tries to be in two places at the same time. And since two things cannot occuply the same space at the same time...it generates antimatter...and we all know what happens when THAT happens... Brrrrrrr!! Crater City! Gunner Ahh! The high nutrino fluxis the cause. That explains why I've never experienced it. All our plants were shielded with Nutroshield shower stall soap scum is a natural nutrino moderator. Which is why you seldom hear about such explosions, and the few are are usually atribbuted to gang land hits, propane explosions, and beer and cabbage farts gone awry. Gunner "Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every quality that morons esteem in their heroes."" |
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On Jan 2, 4:01*pm, Cydrome Leader wrote:
This is an extremely dangerous setup. The stainless steel will react with the brass and chome and minerals in the water and make a high explosive that can be very sensitive when dry. You should look into filters to remove the ammonia and acetylene contamination from your water. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper(I)_acetylide |
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Jim Wilkins wrote:
On Jan 2, 4:01?pm, Cydrome Leader wrote: This is an extremely dangerous setup. The stainless steel will react with the brass and chome and minerals in the water and make a high explosive that can be very sensitive when dry. You should look into filters to remove the ammonia and acetylene contamination from your water. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper(I)_acetylide So this is the reason copper + acetylene = bad, or is they yet another way copper reacts with acetylene? |
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:38:07 -0600, Ignoramus8783
wrote: The shower head is made of chrome plated brass and the screws are made from 304 stainless. After some thinking, I decided to double check and see whether there is any downside to having that stuff together, such as galvanic corrosion. Not unless it's a sal****er shower. -- Ned Simmons |
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This is maybe a little overkill for the shower head question at hand...
but you can download a free copy of this excellent pdf covering pretty much any and everything you ever wanted to know about corrosion, corrosion control & dissimilar metal contact: http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/a...dia/FAA-8083-3 0_Ch06.pdf Sorry for the long link, you may need to copy & paste a little. Erik PS, Free!...well not really, you've in fact already paid for it. This is a good one to save somewhere. The FAA has a bunch of other other manuals available on their site as well. |
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