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OT: Was: --- winter's boredom
We have a very good friend who had her husband put a gun port in the
kitchen window right over the sink. He put a plexiglas pane in place of the glass storm window, cut a 3" diameter hole in the center, then made a nice swivelling plexiglas cover for the port that easily pivots out of the way for the pellet gun. Squirrels beware! Pete Stanaitis -------------------- SteveB wrote: I have just about solved the gopher problem around here by learning to trap them. Not so with squirrels. We have a particularly annoying subspecies around here that lives in the rock outcroppings of the canyon next to my home. They raid the back yard, the bird feeders, the dog dishes, the garden, the almond trees, the apple trees, and whatever else they can get, and that includes electrical wiring and plastic products. Sooooooo, I found a steel 3/8" plate that is two feet by two feet. It stands vertical behind a nice squirrel nut dispenser with a T perch made out of wood. The plate is painted white for good visibility of the squirrel in my scope. We have lots of old pecan trees, and I just go on main street and collect nuts from public streets. When asked what I am going to do with them, I just say, "Feed the squirrels this winter." "Ahhhh, what a kind person," is the usual response. I surely know that this spring and summer will have a lot less squirrel problems. I forgot to mention the platform I put over the plate to offer up the squirrels to the local raptors. Now, what else can I get into during this snowy weather..................... Steve |
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Ahhhhhh, the metalworking answers to winter's boredom
"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote:
Sooooooo, I found a steel 3/8" plate that is two feet by two feet. It stands vertical behind a nice squirrel nut dispenser with a T perch made out of wood. The plate is painted white for good visibility of the squirrel in my scope. I'm jealous. |
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Sounds fun. The effect on squirrel population will be not much,
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I have just about solved the gopher problem around here by learning to trap
them. Not so with squirrels. We have a particularly annoying subspecies around here that lives in the rock outcroppings of the canyon next to my home. They raid the back yard, the bird feeders, the dog dishes, the garden, the almond trees, the apple trees, and whatever else they can get, and that includes electrical wiring and plastic products. Sooooooo, I found a steel 3/8" plate that is two feet by two feet. It stands vertical behind a nice squirrel nut dispenser with a T perch made out of wood. The plate is painted white for good visibility of the squirrel in my scope. We have lots of old pecan trees, and I just go on main street and collect nuts from public streets. When asked what I am going to do with them, I just say, "Feed the squirrels this winter." "Ahhhh, what a kind person," is the usual response. I surely know that this spring and summer will have a lot less squirrel problems. I forgot to mention the platform I put over the plate to offer up the squirrels to the local raptors. Now, what else can I get into during this snowy weather..................... Steve |
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"Wes" wrote in message ... "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote: Sooooooo, I found a steel 3/8" plate that is two feet by two feet. It stands vertical behind a nice squirrel nut dispenser with a T perch made out of wood. The plate is painted white for good visibility of the squirrel in my scope. I'm jealous. Well, pard', wrap your gums around this and satisfy your jealousy. This is for an entire neighborhood: BRUNSWICK STEW About 70 squirrels, cut up 2 large stewing chickens, cut up 6 gals. water 2 1/2 lbs. salt pork, chopped 2 1/2 gals. butter beans(lima beans) 3 1/2 gals. cubed peeled potatoes 4 gals. chopped peeled tomatoes 1 gal. cubed peeled carrots 2 1/2 gals. freshly cut corn 1 gal. shredded cabbage(optional) 1 pod red pepper, chopped 3/4 c. black pepper 1 3/4 c. salt 2 1/4 c. sugar Directions: Clean, dress and cut up squirrels and chickens. If your folks are not ardent squirrel hunters, increase the number of chickens. If you use all chickens, this recipe will take 24 stewing chickens. Bring 4 gals. water to boil in 30-gal. iron kettle. Add squirrel and chicken pieces. Cook, stirring often, until meat comes off the bone. (Take out pieces of bone before serving to small children.) Add remainder of water, as needed. Chop salt pork, fry out and add pork and drippings to boiling mixture. Add beans, potatoes, tomatoes, carrots and corn in order as each is prepared. Continue cooking and stirring until vegetables are tender. Add cabbage and seasonings, and cook, stirring, 1 hour, until stew is thick and flavors well blended. Remove kettle from coals to serving area by hooking handle over a heavy pole, several helpers carrying each end. Makes 15 gallons. Enjoy! Tomorrow, we'll make stewed black bear with dumplings for a small town... -- Ed Huntress |
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On 2008-12-15, Ed Huntress wrote:
Well, pard', wrap your gums around this and satisfy your jealousy. This is for an entire neighborhood: BRUNSWICK STEW About 70 squirrels, cut up 2 large stewing chickens, cut up Have you ever tried to eat squirrels? I tried once to do what Steve B is trying. Killed squirrels from air rifle. Decided to eat them by cooking with vegetables. I was right after losing 45 lbs then and was very hungry all the time. (could explain the decision to cook squirrels) I am now 20 lbs heavier. Despite me being hungry, the squirrels were the vilest and most disgusting food that I recall in recent years (perhaps besides old MREs that I also tried to eat). What a ****ing puke that squirrel meat is. STAY AWAY i |
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Ignoramus23050 wrote: On 2008-12-15, Ed Huntress wrote: Well, pard', wrap your gums around this and satisfy your jealousy. This is for an entire neighborhood: BRUNSWICK STEW About 70 squirrels, cut up 2 large stewing chickens, cut up Have you ever tried to eat squirrels? I tried once to do what Steve B is trying. Killed squirrels from air rifle. Decided to eat them by cooking with vegetables. I was right after losing 45 lbs then and was very hungry all the time. (could explain the decision to cook squirrels) I am now 20 lbs heavier. Despite me being hungry, the squirrels were the vilest and most disgusting food that I recall in recent years (perhaps besides old MREs that I also tried to eat). What a ****ing puke that squirrel meat is. STAY AWAY i Having tried squirrels personally, I'd have to say you did a poor job preparing / cooking them. The ones I had were stewed with tomatoes and peppers and were rather like a bit darker meat chicken wings. Not a lot of meat on those critters, but what there is is perfectly tasty. |
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"Ignoramus23050" wrote in message ... On 2008-12-15, Ed Huntress wrote: Well, pard', wrap your gums around this and satisfy your jealousy. This is for an entire neighborhood: BRUNSWICK STEW About 70 squirrels, cut up 2 large stewing chickens, cut up Have you ever tried to eat squirrels? Ha-ha! Yes, probably more than a hundred of them. I tried once to do what Steve B is trying. Killed squirrels from air rifle. Decided to eat them by cooking with vegetables. I was right after losing 45 lbs then and was very hungry all the time. (could explain the decision to cook squirrels) I am now 20 lbs heavier. Despite me being hungry, the squirrels were the vilest and most disgusting food that I recall in recent years (perhaps besides old MREs that I also tried to eat). What a ****ing puke that squirrel meat is. STAY AWAY Eeewww! You ate ILLINOIS squirrels? What were you trying to do, poison yourself? d8-) Seriously, Iggy, you must have done something really bad. Squirrels are good. I fry the young ones, and either braise the older ones, or cook them in stew. It's pretty hard to wreck a squirrel unless you overcook them and dry them out. They have no fat on them to speak of. The old ones can be a bit tough if you fry them, but braising takes away some of their unique flavor. However, it's a surer thing, unless you're good at guessing their age. g Braised squirrel tastes a lot like turkey dark meat. You DID take the guts out first, didn't you? Did you skin them before you cooked them? ggg -- Ed Huntress |
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:54:03 -0600, Ignoramus23050
wrote: On 2008-12-15, Ed Huntress wrote: Well, pard', wrap your gums around this and satisfy your jealousy. This is for an entire neighborhood: BRUNSWICK STEW About 70 squirrels, cut up 2 large stewing chickens, cut up Have you ever tried to eat squirrels? I tried once to do what Steve B is trying. Killed squirrels from air rifle. Decided to eat them by cooking with vegetables. I was right after losing 45 lbs then and was very hungry all the time. (could explain the decision to cook squirrels) I am now 20 lbs heavier. Despite me being hungry, the squirrels were the vilest and most disgusting food that I recall in recent years (perhaps besides old MREs that I also tried to eat). What a ****ing puke that squirrel meat is. STAY AWAY i It must be what the squirrel ate that made it so bad. I used to eat squirrels that I shot in the Santa Cruz Mountains. These mountains lie between the San Francisco Bay Area and Santa Cruz. The squirrels tasted good and the meat was dark. ERS |
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"Ignoramus23050" wrote in message ... On 2008-12-15, Ed Huntress wrote: Well, pard', wrap your gums around this and satisfy your jealousy. This is for an entire neighborhood: BRUNSWICK STEW About 70 squirrels, cut up 2 large stewing chickens, cut up Have you ever tried to eat squirrels? I tried once to do what Steve B is trying. Killed squirrels from air rifle. Decided to eat them by cooking with vegetables. I was right after losing 45 lbs then and was very hungry all the time. (could explain the decision to cook squirrels) I am now 20 lbs heavier. Despite me being hungry, the squirrels were the vilest and most disgusting food that I recall in recent years (perhaps besides old MREs that I also tried to eat). What a ****ing puke that squirrel meat is. STAY AWAY i Iggy, The key is to clean and skin them promptly, and let them soak *overnight only* in salt-water. Then marinate in milk for 3 or 4 hrs, dredge in seasoned flour, fry in a good iron skillet, make a thick pan-gravy, bisquits, side dishes of tomatoes and okra, some pepper-slaw, and a big glass of cold milk. Doesn't get any better than that. One meal like this, your attitude would do a one-eighty, and you would be a squirrel hunter for sure. Flash |
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Ed Huntress wrote:
Snip: You DID take the guts out first, didn't you? Did you skin them before you cooked them? ggg -- Ed Huntress That is a good question. I've eaten squirel but after the first couple I decided it just wasent worth the effort to skin and gut the beasts for the mouthfull of good meat. Same thing for rabbit. So I kept to deer which gives a good "return on investment" for the labor. :-) ...lew... |
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Lew Hartswick fired this volley in
m: Ed Huntress wrote: Snip: You DID take the guts out first, didn't you? Did you skin them before you cooked them? ggg -- Ed Huntress That is a good question. I've eaten squirel but after the first couple I decided it just wasent worth the effort to skin and gut the beasts for the mouthfull of good meat. But LEW! There ain't NOTHIN' better'n a pan full of Southern-Fried squirrel with gravy. Nothin'! LLoyd |
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"Lew Hartswick" wrote in message m... Ed Huntress wrote: Snip: You DID take the guts out first, didn't you? Did you skin them before you cooked them? ggg -- Ed Huntress That is a good question. I've eaten squirel but after the first couple I decided it just wasent worth the effort to skin and gut the beasts for the mouthfull of good meat. Same thing for rabbit. So I kept to deer which gives a good "return on investment" for the labor. :-) ...lew... That's true, at least regarding squirrels. You have to be into squirrel hunting and the eat-what-you-kill approach to enjoy the whole thing with squirrels. I hunted squirrels a lot as a kid in Pennsylvania, when they were the handiest thing to hunt, and then later in Michigan, when I started hunting with a handgun and it got interesting again. Dressing squirrels is not very efficient. But if it takes you more than two minutes to dress and skin a *rabbit*, you need to improve your technique. You don't "take" the guts out. You fling them out, holding the rabbit by the legs and whipping it over your head. This takes some practice to keep the guts off your coat. g And you can case-skin a rabbit in no more than 20 seconds, unless it's winter season and the rabbit has lost all its fat. -- Ed Huntress |
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"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message ... "Lew Hartswick" wrote in message m... Ed Huntress wrote: Snip: You DID take the guts out first, didn't you? Did you skin them before you cooked them? ggg -- Ed Huntress My mom wasn't a good cook. I remember one Thanksgiving when we went to carve the turkey, she pulled out the pack of giblets that she had not taken out before cooking. One time, I was having dinner at a friend's house. His wife was about as good a cook as Mom. She brought some incinerated potatoes to the table. My friend was obviously embarrassed and uneasy. I looked at the potatoes, then at him. He was looking at me with a panicked expression. I said, "Awwwwwwwwww. Will you LOOK at those potatoes? That's just the same way Ma used to cook them." He was relieved and amused. His wife was not amused. Steve Ha-ha! Oh, boy, profiles of culinary embarrassment. Anyway, it reminds me of the one thing about dressing squirrels that you have to be careful about. The bladder is pretty thin and easily punctured. If you break it and urine gets on the meat, throw that squirrel out. Gee, I'm wondering now if someone told Iggy that you're supposed to skin a squirrel, not pluck it... -- Ed Huntress |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Lew Hartswick" wrote in message m... Ed Huntress wrote: Snip: You DID take the guts out first, didn't you? Did you skin them before you cooked them? ggg -- Ed Huntress That is a good question. I've eaten squirel but after the first couple I decided it just wasent worth the effort to skin and gut the beasts for the mouthfull of good meat. Same thing for rabbit. So I kept to deer which gives a good "return on investment" for the labor. :-) ...lew... That's true, at least regarding squirrels. You have to be into squirrel hunting and the eat-what-you-kill approach to enjoy the whole thing with squirrels. I hunted squirrels a lot as a kid in Pennsylvania, when they were the handiest thing to hunt, and then later in Michigan, when I started hunting with a handgun and it got interesting again. Dressing squirrels is not very efficient. But if it takes you more than two minutes to dress and skin a *rabbit*, you need to improve your technique. You don't "take" the guts out. You fling them out, holding the rabbit by the legs and whipping it over your head. This takes some practice to keep the guts off your coat. g And you can case-skin a rabbit in no more than 20 seconds, unless it's winter season and the rabbit has lost all its fat. -- Ed Huntress It's been thirty years since I've been squirrel hunting (I lived on them a couple of semesters in college and I don't think I need to eat them any more), but Old Man Mullins showed me a technique for squirrels that made it quick. If I had a dead squirrel in front of me, muscle memory would take over, but as it is I have to rely on the little gray cells. Step on the hind feet with your right foot and grab the tail in your left hand. Nick through hide under the tail with a knife and pull the tail up hard. The hide will peel up the back. Then you grab the body around the middle under the skin and turn the hide inside out and over the feet. Cut off the head with your knife and the feet with a pair of dikes. Flick out the innards and toss in the salt water. Done. Rabbits were easier, you didn't even need a knife. Paul K. Dickman |
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"Lew Hartswick" wrote in message m... Ed Huntress wrote: Snip: You DID take the guts out first, didn't you? Did you skin them before you cooked them? ggg -- Ed Huntress My mom wasn't a good cook. I remember one Thanksgiving when we went to carve the turkey, she pulled out the pack of giblets that she had not taken out before cooking. One time, I was having dinner at a friend's house. His wife was about as good a cook as Mom. She brought some incinerated potatoes to the table. My friend was obviously embarrassed and uneasy. I looked at the potatoes, then at him. He was looking at me with a panicked expression. I said, "Awwwwwwwwww. Will you LOOK at those potatoes? That's just the same way Ma used to cook them." He was relieved and amused. His wife was not amused. Steve |
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"Paul K. Dickman" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Lew Hartswick" wrote in message m... Ed Huntress wrote: Snip: You DID take the guts out first, didn't you? Did you skin them before you cooked them? ggg -- Ed Huntress That is a good question. I've eaten squirel but after the first couple I decided it just wasent worth the effort to skin and gut the beasts for the mouthfull of good meat. Same thing for rabbit. So I kept to deer which gives a good "return on investment" for the labor. :-) ...lew... That's true, at least regarding squirrels. You have to be into squirrel hunting and the eat-what-you-kill approach to enjoy the whole thing with squirrels. I hunted squirrels a lot as a kid in Pennsylvania, when they were the handiest thing to hunt, and then later in Michigan, when I started hunting with a handgun and it got interesting again. Dressing squirrels is not very efficient. But if it takes you more than two minutes to dress and skin a *rabbit*, you need to improve your technique. You don't "take" the guts out. You fling them out, holding the rabbit by the legs and whipping it over your head. This takes some practice to keep the guts off your coat. g And you can case-skin a rabbit in no more than 20 seconds, unless it's winter season and the rabbit has lost all its fat. -- Ed Huntress It's been thirty years since I've been squirrel hunting (I lived on them a couple of semesters in college and I don't think I need to eat them any more), but Old Man Mullins showed me a technique for squirrels that made it quick. If I had a dead squirrel in front of me, muscle memory would take over, but as it is I have to rely on the little gray cells. Step on the hind feet with your right foot and grab the tail in your left hand. Nick through hide under the tail with a knife and pull the tail up hard. The hide will peel up the back. Then you grab the body around the middle under the skin and turn the hide inside out and over the feet. Cut off the head with your knife and the feet with a pair of dikes. Flick out the innards and toss in the salt water. Done. Rabbits were easier, you didn't even need a knife. Paul K. Dickman That sounds slick. I think I've heard of that, or something close to it, before, but I've never tried it. Unless I start hunting in PA again, I think I'm done squirrel hunting. We have to use a shotgun in NJ. The shame, the shame... -- Ed Huntress |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Paul K. Dickman" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Lew Hartswick" wrote in message m... Ed Huntress wrote: Snip: You DID take the guts out first, didn't you? Did you skin them before you cooked them? ggg -- Ed Huntress That is a good question. I've eaten squirel but after the first couple I decided it just wasent worth the effort to skin and gut the beasts for the mouthfull of good meat. Same thing for rabbit. So I kept to deer which gives a good "return on investment" for the labor. :-) ...lew... That's true, at least regarding squirrels. You have to be into squirrel hunting and the eat-what-you-kill approach to enjoy the whole thing with squirrels. I hunted squirrels a lot as a kid in Pennsylvania, when they were the handiest thing to hunt, and then later in Michigan, when I started hunting with a handgun and it got interesting again. Dressing squirrels is not very efficient. But if it takes you more than two minutes to dress and skin a *rabbit*, you need to improve your technique. You don't "take" the guts out. You fling them out, holding the rabbit by the legs and whipping it over your head. This takes some practice to keep the guts off your coat. g And you can case-skin a rabbit in no more than 20 seconds, unless it's winter season and the rabbit has lost all its fat. -- Ed Huntress It's been thirty years since I've been squirrel hunting (I lived on them a couple of semesters in college and I don't think I need to eat them any more), but Old Man Mullins showed me a technique for squirrels that made it quick. If I had a dead squirrel in front of me, muscle memory would take over, but as it is I have to rely on the little gray cells. Step on the hind feet with your right foot and grab the tail in your left hand. Nick through hide under the tail with a knife and pull the tail up hard. The hide will peel up the back. Then you grab the body around the middle under the skin and turn the hide inside out and over the feet. Cut off the head with your knife and the feet with a pair of dikes. Flick out the innards and toss in the salt water. Done. Rabbits were easier, you didn't even need a knife. Paul K. Dickman That sounds slick. I think I've heard of that, or something close to it, before, but I've never tried it. Unless I start hunting in PA again, I think I'm done squirrel hunting. We have to use a shotgun in NJ. The shame, the shame... -- Ed Huntress Ya, it is always a pain to pick pellets out of your squirrel gravy. Paul K. Dickman |
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:54:03 -0600, Ignoramus23050
wrote: On 2008-12-15, Ed Huntress wrote: Well, pard', wrap your gums around this and satisfy your jealousy. This is for an entire neighborhood: BRUNSWICK STEW About 70 squirrels, cut up 2 large stewing chickens, cut up Have you ever tried to eat squirrels? I tried once to do what Steve B is trying. Killed squirrels from air rifle. Decided to eat them by cooking with vegetables. I was right after losing 45 lbs then and was very hungry all the time. (could explain the decision to cook squirrels) I am now 20 lbs heavier. Despite me being hungry, the squirrels were the vilest and most disgusting food that I recall in recent years (perhaps besides old MREs that I also tried to eat). What a ****ing puke that squirrel meat is. STAY AWAY i Either you shot the wrong squirrels or they weren't prepared right. My dad hunted squirrels and fed us with them. They were delicious! Some of this was done in Illinois, around Macomb. |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote:
Well, pard', wrap your gums around this and satisfy your jealousy. This is for an entire neighborhood: After my elderly mom drove her Jimmy across an intersection because she could not stop it and Uncle and I later found 14 walnuts jamming the throttle, I don't care if they taste good. I'm going on a squirrel jihad. That was todays drama. Wes |
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On 2008-12-18, Wes wrote:
"Ed Huntress" wrote: Well, pard', wrap your gums around this and satisfy your jealousy. This is for an entire neighborhood: After my elderly mom drove her Jimmy across an intersection because she could not stop it and Uncle and I later found 14 walnuts jamming the throttle, I don't care if they taste good. I'm going on a squirrel jihad. These may not be squirrels. I think that those were likely a different kind of animal. These tend to make messes in my garage. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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"Wes" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote: Well, pard', wrap your gums around this and satisfy your jealousy. This is for an entire neighborhood: After my elderly mom drove her Jimmy across an intersection because she could not stop it and Uncle and I later found 14 walnuts jamming the throttle, I don't care if they taste good. I'm going on a squirrel jihad. That was todays drama. Wes Jeez, my wife hides chocolate like that, but what's your mom doing hiding walnuts? -- Ed Huntress |
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:13:06 -0600, Paul K. Dickman wrote
(in message ): Unless I start hunting in PA again, I think I'm done squirrel hunting. We have to use a shotgun in NJ. The shame, the shame... -- Ed Huntress Ya, it is always a pain to pick pellets out of your squirrel gravy. Paul K. Dickman spendy, but... steel shot -- magnet tom koehler -- I will find a way or make one. |
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