Said McCain wrote John Hinckley, who is supposed to get out soon. Told him
that Obama was boinking Jodie.

Just what I heard.

Steve

--
Keep an eye on them or lose them:

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,
or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,
the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:15:53 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas
wrote:

Said McCain wrote John Hinckley, who is supposed to get out soon. Told him
that Obama was boinking Jodie.

Just what I heard.

Steve


I heard it was Hillary that was writing Hincley....

Gunner

"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..."
Maj. Gen. John Sedgewick, killed by a sniper in 1864 at the battle of Spotsylvania

On Nov 11, 12:03*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:15:53 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas
wrote:

Said McCain wrote John Hinckley, who is supposed to get out soon. *Told him
that Obama was boinking Jodie.

Just what I heard.

Steve

I heard it was Hillary that was writing Hincley....

Gunner

"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..."
Maj. Gen. John Sedgewick, killed by a sniper in 1864 at the battle of Spotsylvania

Good humor is still good humor.


Dave

"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote:

Said McCain wrote John Hinckley, who is supposed to get out soon. Told him
that Obama was boinking Jodie.

Outside of being impeached if he crosses ethical lines, I do not want any harm to come to
him. Assuming he doesn't go full left (doubtfull), a term as CIC could heal a lot of
racial tensions.

I hope he doesn't go left like I expect him to go. Maybe he is smart enough to avoid his
gut feelings.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

Said McCain wrote John Hinckley, who is supposed to get out soon. Told
him
that Obama was boinking Jodie.

Outside of being impeached if he crosses ethical lines, I do not want any
harm to come to
him. Assuming he doesn't go full left (doubtfull), a term as CIC could
heal a lot of
racial tensions.

I hope he doesn't go left like I expect him to go. Maybe he is smart
enough to avoid his
gut feelings.

Wes


Well, Bush went right when he was elected, which I didn't want. So I just
had to put up with the fallout from it. Now I would like to see Obama go
left. We need it. If Bush going right got us in this mess doesn't it follow
that Obama going left will fix it? The country needs to go left. We just saw
what going right does and only the insane liked it.

Hawke

Wes wrote:
"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote:

Said McCain wrote John Hinckley, who is supposed to get out soon.
Told him that Obama was boinking Jodie.

Outside of being impeached if he crosses ethical lines, I do not want
any harm to come to him. Assuming he doesn't go full left
(doubtfull), a term as CIC could heal a lot of racial tensions.

I hope he doesn't go left like I expect him to go. Maybe he is smart
enough to avoid his gut feelings.

How much further left could a guy go than giving three trillion taxpayer
dollars to private industry in exchange for bad debt and worthless shares?
We have all but nationalized the financial services industry Wes and may
well do the same to the domestic automakers.

Are you familiar with the term cognitive dissidence?


--

Dick

Dick 'Tater wrote:

(...)

Are you familiar with the term cognitive dissidence?

Yes I am.
No I'm not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

--Winston

"Winston" wrote in message
...
Dick 'Tater wrote:

(...)

Are you familiar with the term cognitive dissidence?

Yes I am.
No I'm not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

LMAO,
The spell checker on my other box "fixed" my sentence for me without my
noticing.
Pretty funny.

JC

John R. Carroll wrote:
"Winston" wrote in message
...
Dick 'Tater wrote:

(...)

Are you familiar with the term cognitive dissidence?
Yes I am.
No I'm not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

LMAO,
The spell checker on my other box "fixed" my sentence for me without my
noticing.
Pretty funny.

All dissidence is cognitive!



--Winston

"Dick 'Tater" wrote:

I hope he doesn't go left like I expect him to go. Maybe he is smart
enough to avoid his gut feelings.

How much further left could a guy go than giving three trillion taxpayer
dollars to private industry in exchange for bad debt and worthless shares?
We have all but nationalized the financial services industry Wes and may
well do the same to the domestic automakers.

Are you familiar with the term cognitive dissidence?

And can you read well enough figure I was speaking about Obama?

Bush is not bailing out UAW so far. We are not buying the toxic mortgages if the current
news is correct.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:02:50 -0800, Winston
wrote:
Dick 'Tater wrote:
(...)
Are you familiar with the term cognitive dissidence?

Yes I am.
No I'm not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

--Winston
----------------
Good reference and overview.

Given the fanatical devotion to deregulation and obsession with
the "free market," by the current administration and one of the
major political parties, it should be obvious that "cognitive
dissonance" and "incongruence" are at very high levels.

FWIW -- high levels of "cognitive dissonance" and "incongruence"
result in high general stress levels, and high stress levels of
general stress promote rash actions and bad decisions by
individuals. This is frequently catastrophic when these
individuals are in positions of power and influence. Let's hope
that poobahs taking their lithium and/or v allium.

for more info on incongruence click on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Rogers
---------
snip
He suggests that the incongruent individual who is always on the
defensive and cannot be open to all experiences is not
functioning ideally and may even be malfunctioning. They work
hard at maintaining/protecting their self concept. Because their
lives are not authentic this is a difficult task and they are
under constant threat. They deploy defense mechanisms to achieve
this. He describes two mechanisms: distortion and denial.
Distortion occurs when the individual perceives a threat to their
self concept. They distort the perception until it fits their
self concept. Denial follows the same process except instead of
distorting they deny the threat exists.

This defensive behavior reduces the consciousness of the threat
but not the threat itself. And so, as the threats mount, the work
of protecting the self concept becomes more difficult and the
individual more defensive and rigid in their self structure. If
the incongruence is immoderate this process may lead the
individual to a state that would typically be described as
neurotic (although Rogers himself preferred to avoid
labels)(Hjelle & Jiegler 1981[3]). Their functioning becomes
precarious and psychologically vulnerable. If the situation
worsens it is possible that the defenses cease to function
altogether and the individual becomes aware of the incongruence
of their situation. Their personality becomes disorganized and
bizarre, irrational behaviour, associated with earlier denied
aspects of self, may erupt uncontrollably.
snip
---------------

Thus it appears that many of the current US/global socio-economic
problems are at least equally the result of individual and
organizational psychological problems as overt fiscal problems,
even more so in that the fiscal problems, in many cases, are the
result of psychological problems, such as compulsive-competative
shopping/consumption.


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
-------------------------------------------
He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:33:32 -0500, Wes wrote:
snip
We are not buying the toxic mortgages if the current
news is correct.
snip
---------
T.A.R.P. was the old "bait and switch."

******
Paulson Shifts Focus of TARP to Bolster Consumer-Lending Market
By John Brinsley and Robert Schmidt
Nov. 12 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson
plans to use the second half of the $700 billion financial rescue
program to help relieve pressures on consumer credit, scrapping
an effort to buy devalued mortgage assets.

snip
-----
for complete article click on
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...J8k&refer=home


American Express is now a bank, and is using their credit card
receivables to get loans at 1_1/2 % interest from the the FRB to
keep the credit card scam going a while longer. If you have a
balance with a credit card company, don't look for the interest
rate to drop.

------------------
Ahead of the Bell: American Express seeks $3.5B
Wednesday November 12, 7:31 am ET

Report: American Express seeking $3.5 billion as part of
government bailout program
NEW YORK (AP) -- American Express Co. is seeking $3.5 billion in
funds under the government's plan to directly invest in financial
firms, according to a Wednesday report in The Wall Street Journal
citing unnamed sources.
Earlier this week, American Express received approval from the
Federal Reserve to become a bank holding company, which is a
similar structure to traditional commercial banks. The credit
card company now has access to financing from the Fed and the
ability to grow a large deposit base.
The increased funding opportunities through government programs,
including the potential $3.5 billion investment, could be a huge
boost to American Express as one of its primary sources of
funding has nearly disappeared amid the ongoing credit crisis.
snip
-----
for the complete article click on
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081112/ameri...bell.html?.v=1



Unka' George [George McDuffee]
-------------------------------------------
He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).

F. George McDuffee wrote:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:33:32 -0500, Wes wrote:
snip
We are not buying the toxic mortgages if the current
news is correct.
snip
---------
T.A.R.P. was the old "bait and switch."

******
Paulson Shifts Focus of TARP to Bolster Consumer-Lending Market
By John Brinsley and Robert Schmidt
Nov. 12 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson
plans to use the second half of the $700 billion financial rescue
program to help relieve pressures on consumer credit, scrapping
an effort to buy devalued mortgage assets.

snip
-----


It is late, I am not giving this proper consideration since I was on my way to bed but I'm
think he, Paulsen, trusts Joe the wage slave to churn the money back though the system
more than his Goldman Sachs ringknockers.

Night George,

Wes

Wes wrote:
"Dick 'Tater" wrote:

I hope he doesn't go left like I expect him to go. Maybe he is
smart enough to avoid his gut feelings.

How much further left could a guy go than giving three trillion
taxpayer dollars to private industry in exchange for bad debt and
worthless shares? We have all but nationalized the financial
services industry Wes and may well do the same to the domestic
automakers.

Are you familiar with the term cognitive dissidence?

And can you read well enough figure I was speaking about Obama?


Yes I could.

"I hope he doesn't go left like I expect him to go."

Do you understand that I don't think anyone could go much farther "left"
than Bush has taken us without getting advice from Hugo Chavez?


Bush is not bailing out UAW so far. We are not buying the toxic
mortgages if the current news is correct.


Yeah, Paulson couldn't figure out how to do it.
I mentioned a while back that I'd had a conversation with one of the auction
designers and that they couldn't come up with anything that was prudent or
equitable. The entire thing would have been a crap shoot.


JC
--

Dick