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HF HVLP turbine-gun kit
I just got the $80 HF turbine/gun kit (not conversion gun):
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44677 (That link shows it as $90, but catalog #44677-2bpa is $80.) I took some 35 year old paint (from back when they made the good stuff) and started playing with the sprayer. Thinned the paint twice & it was still too thick (paint drops too big). The 3rd time worked very nicely. It measured 9 seconds with the supplied viscosity cup. Desperate to paint *something*, I took a sanding-belt holder that I had made & gave it a shot. Very satisfying! The holder is 6 or 7 compartments, each 3" wide & 4" deep. I.e., not just big flat surfaces. The sprayer did a very nice job. With negligible spraying experience on my part & my first use of the sprayer. Cleanup was easy - they recommend that you do not disassemble the gun. Just spray solvent through it. 'Course the Operating Instructions left a lot out. Like: - there are 3 tip & needle sets (1.0, 1.5, & 1.8 mm diam). I assume that their use depends upon the viscosity of the paint to be used. But paint can be thinned to any viscosity, so there is some uncertainty here. - there is only one operational adjustment: paint volume. I used it barely open & it was fine for me, but what are the criteria for setting it? - the HF listing says that it can spray a circular pattern, but the manual doesn't say how. I suspect that it doesn't do circular. Anybody else own this "kit"? Any help with my questions? Thanks, Bob -- Nota for President |
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HF HVLP turbine-gun kit
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:12:28 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote: I just got the $80 HF turbine/gun kit (not conversion gun): http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44677 (That link shows it as $90, but catalog #44677-2bpa is $80.) big snip Anybody else own this "kit"? Any help with my questions? Can't help with your questions, but what I usually do is go looking for a similar item from a better company. Maybe Campbell Hausfeld has some better instructions? Here is a link to one of their lesser model manual pages: http://www.chpower.com/webapp/wcs/st...ndModel=hv2500 -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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"Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message
. .. I just got the $80 HF turbine/gun kit (not conversion gun): http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44677 ( link shows it as $90, but catalog #44677-2bpa is $80.) I took some 35 year old paint (from back when they made the good stuff) and started playing with the sprayer. Thinned the paint twice & it was still too thick (paint drops too big). The 3rd time worked very nicely. It measured 9 seconds with the supplied viscosity cup. Desperate to paint *something*, I took a sanding-belt holder that I had made & gave it a shot. Very satisfying! The holder is 6 or 7 compartments, each 3" wide & 4" deep. I.e., not just big flat surfaces. The sprayer did a very nice job. With negligible spraying experience on my part & my first use of the sprayer. Cleanup was easy - they recommend that you do not disassemble the gun. Just spray solvent through it. 'Course the Operating Instructions left a lot out. Like: - there are 3 tip & needle sets (1.0, 1.5, & 1.8 mm diam). I assume that their use depends upon the viscosity of the paint to be used. But paint can be thinned to any viscosity, so there is some uncertainty here. - there is only one operational adjustment: paint volume. I used it barely open & it was fine for me, but what are the criteria for setting it? - the HF listing says that it can spray a circular pattern, but the manual doesn't say how. I suspect that it doesn't do circular. Anybody else own this "kit"? Any help with my questions? Thanks, Bob -- Nota for President My HVLP conversion gun will shoot a circular pattern by turning the air nozzle to 45 degrees. Air nozzles horizontal for a vertical fan, nozzles vertical for a horizontal fan and at 45 degrees the air is shut off for a circular pattern. Mine is an Apollo brand and cost way more than the HF unit. It has an air adjustment and paint volume adjustment. Different paints require different needle/tip sets. The high solids paints like hi-build primer need the larger ones. Tom |
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HF HVLP turbine-gun kit
Bob Engelhardt wrote:
I just got the $80 HF turbine/gun kit (not conversion gun): http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44677 (That link shows it as $90, but catalog #44677-2bpa is $80.) I took some 35 year old paint (from back when they made the good stuff) and started playing with the sprayer. Thinned the paint twice & it was still too thick (paint drops too big). The 3rd time worked very nicely. It measured 9 seconds with the supplied viscosity cup. Desperate to paint *something*, I took a sanding-belt holder that I had made & gave it a shot. Very satisfying! The holder is 6 or 7 compartments, each 3" wide & 4" deep. I.e., not just big flat surfaces. The sprayer did a very nice job. With negligible spraying experience on my part & my first use of the sprayer. Cleanup was easy - they recommend that you do not disassemble the gun. Just spray solvent through it. 'Course the Operating Instructions left a lot out. Like: - there are 3 tip & needle sets (1.0, 1.5, & 1.8 mm diam). I assume that their use depends upon the viscosity of the paint to be used. But paint can be thinned to any viscosity, so there is some uncertainty here. - there is only one operational adjustment: paint volume. I used it barely open & it was fine for me, but what are the criteria for setting it? - the HF listing says that it can spray a circular pattern, but the manual doesn't say how. I suspect that it doesn't do circular. Anybody else own this "kit"? Any help with my questions? Thanks, Bob The spray guns USUALLY have two knobs on the back, one for trigger pull control (amount of paint that comes out when you pull the trigger) and the other for air control. The air control is usually the top one. Get a piece of trash cardboard or some other flat surface and start with short busts of the gun. After each burst turn the air control in about 1/8th of a turn. After a few tests you should start to see the pattern go from oval to circular. Good luck. I've used the HVLP for years and like it for small jobs where the 2.5 gallon paint pot is just a bit too big. Jim |
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HF HVLP turbine-gun kit
Leon Fisk wrote:
... what I usually do is go looking for a similar item from a better company. Maybe Campbell Hausfeld has some better instructions? Here is a link to one of their lesser model manual pages: http://www.chpower.com/webapp/wcs/st...ndModel=hv2500 Good tip, thanks! The link is to a sprayer that's very similar (can you say "reverse engineering"?). It has directions on tip selection & a troubleshooting guide that were useful (& copied). Thanks, Bob |
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HF HVLP turbine-gun kit
Jim Chandler wrote:
The spray guns USUALLY have two knobs on the back, one for trigger pull control (amount of paint that comes out when you pull the trigger) and the other for air control. ... Ah, I only have the amount-of-paint control. At this point I'm glad of that - it's a parameter that I don't have to learn about. Maybe someday I'll "need" a gun with that control. Thanks, Bob -- Nota for President |
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HF HVLP turbine-gun kit
Tom Wait wrote:
My HVLP conversion gun will shoot a circular pattern by turning the air nozzle to 45 degrees. ... Ah HA! Thanks. How hard would it have been for them to put that in the "manual"? \rhetorical Different paints require different needle/tip sets. The high solids paints like hi-build primer need the larger ones. The C-H manual that Leon pointed me to ranks "paint" by increasing solids as: acrylics (whatever they are), stains & sealers, oil base, latex. Thanks, Bob -- Nota for President |
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