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I've seen bigger, but that's certainly a big 'un. With that much air,
now you need to build an entry for that pumpkin chuckin' contest...

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:15:52 -0500, Ignoramus6286
wrote:

Rescued from Illinois Train Museum today.

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Have we told you "You suck!" today yet?

Okay, now one very important question: How do you plan on powering
up either one of those beasties at a private residence?

The Quincy compressor, maybe - if it's a 5 HP and not a 10 HP. A
VFD will get you 3-Ph if you need it, but you still have to feed
enough watts to the input before they come out the output.

And that big hunk of Blue Iron will dump the grid for the whole
neighborhood if you turn it up all the way and get the rod stuck
instead of struck...

Start making friends at the local power utility, and see if you can
talk them into a 200A 480V service for the Toy Box. Umm, garage.

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Wow. Nice one. However, I would suggest having that tank
hydrostatically tested if it has no record of a recent test. That tank
is big enough to blow your entire garage sky high if it ruptures.
Dave

Looks like we need to train Iggy to LOOK and not Take from the museum!

We might have to rename you close to Gunner if this is kept up -

What a big kill. The welder is one of those switcher types in mega amps!

Martin

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On 2008-07-21, Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
Looks like we need to train Iggy to LOOK and not Take from the museum!

We might have to rename you close to Gunner if this is kept up -

What a big kill. The welder is one of those switcher types in mega amps!

Well, I bought it from the museum, etc. Rescue referred to the fact
that they sat there outdoors destined for scrap pile. Both seem to
work though.

i

Martin

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What sort of air tools are you possibly running that would require
something that big??? Are you running a hard rock mining operation
under your house?

Nice find. How do you plan on moving it around? I'd assume it weighs
several thousand pounds. Not to mention that you must be running out
of room in your shop by now...

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And you were just asking if that trailer would carry much. HA!

Steve

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And you were just asking if that trailer would carry much. HA!

Steve


That trailer did not even squeak when we took my Bridgeport mill off of it
with a Bobcat. That is good military hardware there... Then it did not
complain a bit when we dropped a Miller Big Blue on it.... Now I gotta beg
and barter him to move it again soon!

Rob


Fraser Competition Engines
Chicago, IL.

Rob

On 2008-07-21, Rob Fraser FraserRacing wrote:

"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
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And you were just asking if that trailer would carry much. HA!

Steve


That trailer did not even squeak when we took my Bridgeport mill off of it
with a Bobcat. That is good military hardware there... Then it did not
complain a bit when we dropped a Miller Big Blue on it.... Now I gotta beg
and barter him to move it again soon!

Twice, I moved something that was 2 times as heavy as that Bridgeport.
In addition, one of those times me and the scrap man went on a wild
goose chase to find someone with a forklift, at which point I
discovered that there are too many potholes in Addison that were too
deep, and that some are sometimes covered with snow. But the trailer
seems to have held up.

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On 2008-07-21, Rob Fraser FraserRacing wrote:

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Rescued from Illinois Train Museum today.

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And you were just asking if that trailer would carry much. HA!

Steve


That trailer did not even squeak when we took my Bridgeport mill off of
it
with a Bobcat. That is good military hardware there... Then it did not
complain a bit when we dropped a Miller Big Blue on it.... Now I gotta
beg
and barter him to move it again soon!

Twice, I moved something that was 2 times as heavy as that Bridgeport.
In addition, one of those times me and the scrap man went on a wild
goose chase to find someone with a forklift, at which point I
discovered that there are too many potholes in Addison that were too
deep, and that some are sometimes covered with snow. But the trailer
seems to have held up.


That's how you learn stuff, Ig. You try to think it through ......... weld
it as good as you can ..... ask others.

Then overload it.

Steve ;-)

Yep. When building this trailer, I asked a lot of what some sneering
people may call dumb questions. If I ask myself now, would the trailer
be better built if I did not ask those questions, the answer is
obviously no. Your own advice to use 7018, for example was
particularly good, as I would otherwise stick to something that was
not as good.

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Rescued from Illinois Train Museum today.

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And you were just asking if that trailer would carry much. HA!

Steve


That trailer did not even squeak when we took my Bridgeport mill off of
it
with a Bobcat. That is good military hardware there... Then it did not
complain a bit when we dropped a Miller Big Blue on it.... Now I gotta
beg
and barter him to move it again soon!

Twice, I moved something that was 2 times as heavy as that Bridgeport.
In addition, one of those times me and the scrap man went on a wild
goose chase to find someone with a forklift, at which point I
discovered that there are too many potholes in Addison that were too
deep, and that some are sometimes covered with snow. But the trailer
seems to have held up.

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That's how you learn stuff, Ig. You try to think it through ......... weld
it as good as you can ..... ask others.

Then overload it.

Steve ;-)

woodworker88 wrote:
What sort of air tools are you possibly running that would require
something that big??? Are you running a hard rock mining operation
under your house?

Nice find. How do you plan on moving it around? I'd assume it weighs
several thousand pounds. Not to mention that you must be running out
of room in your shop by now...

That's easy. He'll attach very clever casters to it.

Ignoramus6286 wrote:
Rescued from Illinois Train Museum today.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/MuseumPurchases/


Humpf! Now, I did see a big compressor, once. It was an
Ingersoll-Rand, single cylinder, horizontal, run by a 300 Hp
salient-pole synchronous motor. They used the synchronous motor
to adjust power factor for the whole plant. (aside: Putting a
synchronous motor on line and overexciting the rotor winding
causes it to draw a leading power factor from the mains, just
like a huge capacitor bank. They hook a phase angle meter to a
field current controller and it keeps the plant at near-perfect
power factor. This was called a synchronous condenser back in
the old days.)

There were actually two of these in a room in the Emerson
Electric defense plant built in 1951 or so.

Jon

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:57:41 -0500, Jon Elson
wrote:

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Humpf! Now, I did see a big compressor, once. It was an
Ingersoll-Rand, single cylinder, horizontal, run by a 300 Hp
salient-pole synchronous motor. They used the synchronous motor
to adjust power factor for the whole plant. (aside: Putting a
synchronous motor on line and overexciting the rotor winding
causes it to draw a leading power factor from the mains, just
like a huge capacitor bank. They hook a phase angle meter to a
field current controller and it keeps the plant at near-perfect
power factor. This was called a synchronous condenser back in
the old days.)

There were actually two of these in a room in the Emerson
Electric defense plant built in 1951 or so.

The biggest one I've come across had a rated output of 5000
Hp. Water cooled output and virtually no moving parts.

I've seen part of what's left of it, but sadly this one
isn't working anymore

Google up "Taylor air compressor" in Victoria Michigan if
you are curious. They were highly dependent on the proper
location to be workable

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Leon Fisk wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:57:41 -0500, Jon Elson
wrote:

snip

Humpf! Now, I did see a big compressor, once. It was an
Ingersoll-Rand, single cylinder, horizontal, run by a 300 Hp
salient-pole synchronous motor. They used the synchronous motor
to adjust power factor for the whole plant. (aside: Putting a
synchronous motor on line and overexciting the rotor winding
causes it to draw a leading power factor from the mains, just
like a huge capacitor bank. They hook a phase angle meter to a
field current controller and it keeps the plant at near-perfect
power factor. This was called a synchronous condenser back in
the old days.)

There were actually two of these in a room in the Emerson
Electric defense plant built in 1951 or so.


The biggest one I've come across had a rated output of 5000
Hp. Water cooled output and virtually no moving parts.

I've seen part of what's left of it, but sadly this one
isn't working anymore

Google up "Taylor air compressor" in Victoria Michigan if
you are curious. They were highly dependent on the proper
location to be workable


IIRC I saw that air compression process mentioned in the likes of Mother
Earth News years ago but on a much smaller scale. It's possible to do it
anywhere you have a flow of water and sufficient head.

On Jul 23, 8:05*am, Leon Fisk wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:57:41 -0500, Jon Elson

wrote:

snip

Humpf! *Now, I did see a big compressor, once. *It was an
Ingersoll-Rand, single cylinder, horizontal, run by a 300 Hp
salient-pole synchronous motor. *They used the synchronous motor
to adjust power factor for the whole plant. *(aside: *Putting a
synchronous motor on line and overexciting the rotor winding
causes it to draw a leading power factor from the mains, just
like a huge capacitor bank. *They hook a phase angle meter to a
field current controller and it keeps the plant at near-perfect
power factor. *This was called a synchronous condenser back in
the old days.)

There were actually two of these in a room in the Emerson
Electric defense plant built in 1951 or so.

The biggest one I've come across had a rated output of 5000
Hp. Water cooled output and virtually no moving parts.

I've seen part of what's left of it, but sadly this one
isn't working anymore

Google up "Taylor air compressor" in Victoria Michigan if
you are curious. They were highly dependent on the proper
location to be workable

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Here's one.
http://www.cobalt.ca/ragged_chutes.htm
Karl

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:24:40 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote:

On Jul 23, 8:05*am, Leon Fisk wrote:

snip
The biggest one I've come across had a rated output of 5000
Hp. Water cooled output and virtually no moving parts.

I've seen part of what's left of it, but sadly this one
isn't working anymore

Google up "Taylor air compressor" in Victoria Michigan if
you are curious. They were highly dependent on the proper
location to be workable

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Here's one.
http://www.cobalt.ca/ragged_chutes.htm
Karl

Ah yes! that is the beasty. I couldn't remember the name of
that one and wondered if it was still around. Too lazy to
dig around in my books and find the name...

The one in Victoria iced up a couple times at the
intake/bulkhead. No one was paying attention and the
resulting overpressure condition blew the floating bulkhead
through the roof and on into the surrounding area. Ugh!
Quite a mass of metal to fling into the air.

There are still two heads left at Victoria (originally
three, one was lost when the hydro-dam flume burst years
ago) rusting away in the weeds/brush. The buildings housing
it are long gone. Underground it is most likely still there
but all plugged up with sediment/debris. If you don't know
what you are looking for you will completely miss seeing
what is left of it

There were several of these built back then.

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:24:34 -0400, Leon Fisk
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:24:40 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote:

On Jul 23, 8:05*am, Leon Fisk wrote:

snip
The biggest one I've come across had a rated output of 5000
Hp. Water cooled output and virtually no moving parts.

I've seen part of what's left of it, but sadly this one
isn't working anymore

Google up "Taylor air compressor" in Victoria Michigan if
you are curious. They were highly dependent on the proper
location to be workable

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Here's one.
http://www.cobalt.ca/ragged_chutes.htm
Karl

Ah yes! that is the beasty. I couldn't remember the name of
that one and wondered if it was still around. Too lazy to
dig around in my books and find the name...

The one in Victoria iced up a couple times at the
intake/bulkhead. No one was paying attention and the
resulting overpressure condition blew the floating bulkhead
through the roof and on into the surrounding area. Ugh!
Quite a mass of metal to fling into the air.

There are still two heads left at Victoria (originally
three, one was lost when the hydro-dam flume burst years
ago) rusting away in the weeds/brush. The buildings housing
it are long gone. Underground it is most likely still there
but all plugged up with sediment/debris. If you don't know
what you are looking for you will completely miss seeing
what is left of it

There were several of these built back then.
Much like the old time water ram, I remember one from my youth - the
house was long gone but the old pipe still gave a squirt of water
every few seconds.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:35:14 -0400, Gerald Miller
wrote:

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Much like the old time water ram, I remember one from my youth - the
house was long gone but the old pipe still gave a squirt of water
every few seconds.

Dad had one on their farm when he was a kid. It made quite
the impression on him, he was still pretty young.

You can still get/buy them. The last I knew Lehman's
Hardware still sold them (among others). See:

http://www.lehmans.com/shopping/prod...iProductID=274

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On Jul 25, 8:29*am, Leon Fisk wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:35:14 -0400, Gerald Miller

wrote:

snip

Much like the old time water ram, I remember one from my youth - the
house was long gone but the old pipe still gave a squirt of water
every few seconds.

Dad had one on their farm when he was a kid. It made quite
the impression on him, he was still pretty young.

You can still get/buy them. The last I knew Lehman's
Hardware still sold them (among others). See:

http://www.lehmans.com/shopping/prod...iProductID=274

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I saw plans in Mother Earth News about 25 years ago.
Karl