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Lathe bed regrinding
Has anyone tried to take a lathe bed for regrinding? What was the
procedure , what did you have to take off and how much does it cost. Just checxking things out in case if the lathe turns out to be worn. I think that it would be easier to do if it still was on trailer. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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Ignoramus11230 wrote:
Has anyone tried to take a lathe bed for regrinding? What was the procedure , what did you have to take off and how much does it cost. Just checxking things out in case if the lathe turns out to be worn. I think that it would be easier to do if it still was on trailer. Don't waste your time. You can't get the money back out of it, and you won't notice the difference in accuracy unless the bed is truly at the edge of being beyond use. If you can find someone in your area that is competent and equipped to do a decent job of it, it will cost you several times what the lathe did. Cheers Trevor Jones |
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:24:32 GMT, Trevor Jones
wrote: Ignoramus11230 wrote: Has anyone tried to take a lathe bed for regrinding? What was the procedure , what did you have to take off and how much does it cost. Just checxking things out in case if the lathe turns out to be worn. I think that it would be easier to do if it still was on trailer. Don't waste your time. You can't get the money back out of it, and you won't notice the difference in accuracy unless the bed is truly at the edge of being beyond use. If you can find someone in your area that is competent and equipped to do a decent job of it, it will cost you several times what the lathe did. Cheers Trevor Jones About $500-900 for a 13x36 here in California Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:24:32 GMT, Trevor Jones wrote: Ignoramus11230 wrote: Has anyone tried to take a lathe bed for regrinding? What was the procedure , what did you have to take off and how much does it cost. Just checxking things out in case if the lathe turns out to be worn. I think that it would be easier to do if it still was on trailer. Don't waste your time. You can't get the money back out of it, and you won't notice the difference in accuracy unless the bed is truly at the edge of being beyond use. If you can find someone in your area that is competent and equipped to do a decent job of it, it will cost you several times what the lathe did. Cheers Trevor Jones About $500-900 for a 13x36 here in California How much more, to put it back together with all the parts in alignment? The guys in Edmonton AB, that I spoke to that were worth talking to (skills-wise) were quoting nearly the price of a new machine. The guys that quoted reasonable prices, I would not let work on my lawnmower. That price is not bad. I still think it a waste of money and time, on that machine, though. Cheers Trevor Jones |
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On 2008-07-06, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:24:32 GMT, Trevor Jones wrote: Ignoramus11230 wrote: Has anyone tried to take a lathe bed for regrinding? What was the procedure , what did you have to take off and how much does it cost. Just checxking things out in case if the lathe turns out to be worn. I think that it would be easier to do if it still was on trailer. Don't waste your time. You can't get the money back out of it, and you won't notice the difference in accuracy unless the bed is truly at the edge of being beyond use. If you can find someone in your area that is competent and equipped to do a decent job of it, it will cost you several times what the lathe did. Cheers Trevor Jones About $500-900 for a 13x36 here in California Would be cool, to spend extra $500 and make a lathe that would be as accurate as new. The only issue is other wear points. i -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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A guy wrote an article in HSM a year or two ago about sending a used
South Bend heavy 10 (I think) back to South Bend for a complete rebuild. Apparently South Bend develops an estimate. In this guy's case, the estimate was about $10,000 for the complete job. I bought a used Atlas 10F lathe 25 years ago that was all in pieces, having just had the ways reground. They had done a great job on it. I assembled and adjusted it and have been using it ever since. I paid $125 for the whole lathe with a lot of accessories. Just having the lathe on the trailer won't help much as far as grinding the lathe bed goes, since you'll have tear the machine completely down to get it ready for the grinder. Pete Stanaitis ----------------- Ignoramus11230 wrote: Has anyone tried to take a lathe bed for regrinding? What was the procedure , what did you have to take off and how much does it cost. Just checxking things out in case if the lathe turns out to be worn. I think that it would be easier to do if it still was on trailer. |
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On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:16:29 GMT, Trevor Jones
wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:24:32 GMT, Trevor Jones wrote: Ignoramus11230 wrote: Has anyone tried to take a lathe bed for regrinding? What was the procedure , what did you have to take off and how much does it cost. Just checxking things out in case if the lathe turns out to be worn. I think that it would be easier to do if it still was on trailer. Don't waste your time. You can't get the money back out of it, and you won't notice the difference in accuracy unless the bed is truly at the edge of being beyond use. If you can find someone in your area that is competent and equipped to do a decent job of it, it will cost you several times what the lathe did. Cheers Trevor Jones About $500-900 for a 13x36 here in California How much more, to put it back together with all the parts in alignment? The guys in Edmonton AB, that I spoke to that were worth talking to (skills-wise) were quoting nearly the price of a new machine. The guys that quoted reasonable prices, I would not let work on my lawnmower. That price is not bad. I still think it a waste of money and time, on that machine, though. Cheers Trevor Jones That price is if you bring the ways to the grinder, and pick them up. Disassembly reassembly is on your dime Gunner Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Ignoramus11230 wrote:
Would be cool, to spend extra $500 and make a lathe that would be as accurate as new. The only issue is other wear points. i No. $500 gets the bed ground. Then you have to get all the rest of the lathe back into line and accurate. The biggie is getting the carriage to run so that it does not bind on the lead screw. Most rebuilders now are using Moglice or similar to build the carriage back up so it rides in the same plane. Then you have to retrue the cross slide, so it is running accurately and within spec. Then the compound dovetail need to be rebuilt. DAGS for "in modest praise of klunkers" by Meridian Machine Best advice. Don't **** with it, until you can quantify the issues. Set it up. Use it. Make test pieces. See how much wear there actually is, before you do anything to it. To do otherwise, you might just as well be using an angle grinder to clean the ways. Or a cutting torch. Cheers Trevor Jones |
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Good point Trevor. I will cut a test bar and try to accurately measure
how the diameter changes from one end to another. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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9x20 yahoo group has an excellent article on spindle testing and
aligning, BTW. It is in the files section . Misaligned spindles can lead to taper too - before you take an Oxy torch to your recent acquisition On Jul 7, 9:54*am, Ignoramus27232 ignoramus27...@NOSPAM. 27232.invalid wrote: Good point Trevor. I will cut a test bar and try to accurately measure how the diameter changes from one end to another. -- * *Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention * * * to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating * * * *from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by * * * * *more readers you will need to find a different means of * * * * * * * * * * * *posting on Usenet. * * * * * * * * * *http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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I was just quoted $600-900 for a bed 42" in length.
"Ignoramus11230" wrote in message ... Has anyone tried to take a lathe bed for regrinding? What was the procedure , what did you have to take off and how much does it cost. Just checxking things out in case if the lathe turns out to be worn. I think that it would be easier to do if it still was on trailer. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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Trevor Jones wrote:
How much more, to put it back together with all the parts in alignment? That is the problem. Seems like something moglice is made for. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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Ignoramus27232 wrote:
Good point Trevor. I will cut a test bar and try to accurately measure how the diameter changes from one end to another. A fair amount of bed wear does not have the same amount of inaccuracy in turning diameters. Look at a circle, tool at 270 degrees assuming 0 is at north and plot vertical vs horizontal displacement. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:28:09 -0500, Ignoramus11230
wrote: On 2008-07-06, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:24:32 GMT, Trevor Jones wrote: Ignoramus11230 wrote: Has anyone tried to take a lathe bed for regrinding? What was the procedure , what did you have to take off and how much does it cost. Just checxking things out in case if the lathe turns out to be worn. I think that it would be easier to do if it still was on trailer. Don't waste your time. You can't get the money back out of it, and you won't notice the difference in accuracy unless the bed is truly at the edge of being beyond use. If you can find someone in your area that is competent and equipped to do a decent job of it, it will cost you several times what the lathe did. Cheers Trevor Jones About $500-900 for a 13x36 here in California Would be cool, to spend extra $500 and make a lathe that would be as accurate as new. The only issue is other wear points. Not to bitch at you but weren't you talking about mounting the lathe on casters so you could move it? If the lathe is not accurately "leveled" before it is used it won't be accurate anyway... so why bother to have the bed ground? Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) |
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On 2008-07-08, Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:28:09 -0500, Ignoramus11230 wrote: On 2008-07-06, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:24:32 GMT, Trevor Jones wrote: Ignoramus11230 wrote: Has anyone tried to take a lathe bed for regrinding? What was the procedure , what did you have to take off and how much does it cost. Just checxking things out in case if the lathe turns out to be worn. I think that it would be easier to do if it still was on trailer. Don't waste your time. You can't get the money back out of it, and you won't notice the difference in accuracy unless the bed is truly at the edge of being beyond use. If you can find someone in your area that is competent and equipped to do a decent job of it, it will cost you several times what the lathe did. Cheers Trevor Jones About $500-900 for a 13x36 here in California Would be cool, to spend extra $500 and make a lathe that would be as accurate as new. The only issue is other wear points. Not to bitch at you but weren't you talking about mounting the lathe on casters so you could move it? If the lathe is not accurately "leveled" before it is used it won't be accurate anyway... so why bother to have the bed ground? I want to have it on casters for the duration of time that I service it. I do not think that having it on casters is suitable for long term mounting or accurate turning. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:28:09 -0500, Ignoramus11230 wrote: On 2008-07-06, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:24:32 GMT, Trevor Jones wrote: Ignoramus11230 wrote: Has anyone tried to take a lathe bed for regrinding? What was the procedure , what did you have to take off and how much does it cost. Just checxking things out in case if the lathe turns out to be worn. I think that it would be easier to do if it still was on trailer. Don't waste your time. You can't get the money back out of it, and you won't notice the difference in accuracy unless the bed is truly at the edge of being beyond use. If you can find someone in your area that is competent and equipped to do a decent job of it, it will cost you several times what the lathe did. Cheers Trevor Jones About $500-900 for a 13x36 here in California Would be cool, to spend extra $500 and make a lathe that would be as accurate as new. The only issue is other wear points. Not to bitch at you but weren't you talking about mounting the lathe on casters so you could move it? If the lathe is not accurately "leveled" before it is used it won't be accurate anyway... so why bother to have the bed ground? Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) Leveling is a method of measuring and correcting for twist (essentially) in the lathe bed. There are other methods. Lathes on subs and other ships are hardly "level" in terms of the bed being oriented to the earth, but can be made to cut properly. On casters, so long as the structure to which the lathe bed is attached is stable, who gives a hoot about it being "level"? See "Rollie's Dad's Method" /mark |
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