See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.


http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html


Best Regards
Tom.

"azotic" wrote in message
...
See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.


http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html


Best Regards
Tom.

Clever guy. I saw the video on the news here.

Maybe he should quit smoking. It seems to have addled his brain.

--
Ed Huntress

On Jul 3, 2:12*pm, "azotic" wrote:
See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.

http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html

Best Regards
Tom.

Here's the vid
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/....explodes.wplg
Karl

"azotic" wrote in message
...
See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.


http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html


Best Regards
Tom.


It seems like the welding tanks DID NOT explode. The VAN exploded because
it was full of combustible gases.

Ivan Vegvary

On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:01:40 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ivan
Vegvary" quickly quoth:


"azotic" wrote in message
...
See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.


http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html


Best Regards
Tom.


It seems like the welding tanks DID NOT explode. The VAN exploded because
it was full of combustible gases.

It was probably a set of tanks which hadn't been shut off and the
hoses purged. That little bit of acetylene blew the shell clear off
the van. Unreal! Leave it to a Floridian NOT to notice that the
vehicle stunk of flammable gas before lighting up. There's an Obama
voter for ya. (Hi, Ed.)

--
Such is the irresistible nature of truth that all it asks, and all it wants,
is the liberty of appearing. -- Thomas Paine

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:01:40 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ivan
Vegvary" quickly quoth:

"azotic" wrote in message
...
See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.


http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html


Best Regards
Tom.


It seems like the welding tanks DID NOT explode. The VAN exploded because
it was full of combustible gases.

It was probably a set of tanks which hadn't been shut off and the
hoses purged. That little bit of acetylene blew the shell clear off
the van. Unreal! Leave it to a Floridian NOT to notice that the
vehicle stunk of flammable gas before lighting up. There's an Obama
voter for ya. (Hi, Ed.)

*It also points out the power of a cigarette addiction*

I once knew a long term smoker to be on oxygen for his breathing problems. He was sitting
in a smoke-free clinic to see the doctor about his problem. He told me, "I'm going
outside and have a cigarette - if it kills me." Well, it didn't kill him right then but
he's dead now.

Don't worry about going to see Marlboro Country, just keep smoking your cigarettes and
you'll get to "Marlboro County" sooner than you'd like - SIX FEET UNDER.

My father died at the ripe old age of about 61. I *think* about 60 camels a day "helped"
him die. Yep, he was a chain smoker - light the next one with the current one.

Al Patrick wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:01:40 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ivan
Vegvary" quickly quoth:

"azotic" wrote in message
...
See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.


http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html


Best Regards
Tom.


It seems like the welding tanks DID NOT explode. The VAN exploded because
it was full of combustible gases.

It was probably a set of tanks which hadn't been shut off and the
hoses purged. That little bit of acetylene blew the shell clear off
the van. Unreal! Leave it to a Floridian NOT to notice that the
vehicle stunk of flammable gas before lighting up. There's an Obama
voter for ya. (Hi, Ed.)

*It also points out the power of a cigarette addiction*

I once knew a long term smoker to be on oxygen for his breathing problems. He was sitting
in a smoke-free clinic to see the doctor about his problem. He told me, "I'm going
outside and have a cigarette - if it kills me." Well, it didn't kill him right then but
he's dead now.

Don't worry about going to see Marlboro Country, just keep smoking your cigarettes and
you'll get to "Marlboro County" sooner than you'd like - SIX FEET UNDER.

My father died at the ripe old age of about 61. I *think* about 60 camels a day "helped"
him die. Yep, he was a chain smoker - light the next one with the current one.

Some people prefer to make rational decisions for themselves. To many
smokers that bit of daily relaxation for decades has a lot more value
than a few extra years in a nursing home waiting to die.

On Jul 3, 8:12*pm, "azotic" wrote:
See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.

http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html

Best Regards
Tom.

Stupid should hurt, nice that he didn't take anyone with him.

Pete C. wrote:
...
a few extra years in a nursing home waiting to die.

My dad died from smoking. He *slowly* suffocated from emphysema over a
10 year period. "Waiting to die" sounds much more peaceful than it
really is. "I just want it to be over" was a constant theme for him in
the last stage.

Smoking also increases the risk of heart failure. The REALLY lucky
smoker will just keel over. If it happens at 61, maybe that's no so lucky.

Bob

"azotic" wrote in message
...
See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.


http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html


Best Regards
Tom.



A couple times I have jumped into my work van in the morning, shoved the key
in the ignition, and said to myself, "wait a second, what is that odor?
Acetylene!" Jump out, leave the doors open for a few minutes! I will
probably be on one of those videos some day!
Greg

Bob Engelhardt wrote:
Pete C. wrote:
...
a few extra years in a nursing home waiting to die.

My dad died from smoking. He *slowly* suffocated from emphysema over a
10 year period. "Waiting to die" sounds much more peaceful than it
really is. "I just want it to be over" was a constant theme for him in
the last stage.

Smoking also increases the risk of heart failure. The REALLY lucky
smoker will just keel over. If it happens at 61, maybe that's no so lucky.

Bob


I know another gentleman probably just under 70 now. He's worked hard all his life and now
is only able to work a few hours a day at the most. He's been on oxygen at night and
occasionally has to use it during the day. He's still smoking, though he - and his wife -
now go outside to smoke on the porch after "someone" suggested his house stunk like
cigarettes. ;-) She has other medical problems but isn't yet bothered with emphysema.
That will come in time if something else doesn't get her.

On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:39:05 GMT, "Greg O"
wrote:

"azotic" wrote in message
...
See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.


http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html


Best Regards
Tom.



A couple times I have jumped into my work van in the morning, shoved the key
in the ignition, and said to myself, "wait a second, what is that odor?
Acetylene!" Jump out, leave the doors open for a few minutes! I will
probably be on one of those videos some day!
Greg



1) Acetylene is close enough to the most easily ignited gas:
http://www.crohmiq.com/TechRD/Minimu...ion_Energy.pdf

2) There's a switch in the doors to turn the lights on. I doubt
it's an "intrinsically safe" type.

Take care..
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

On Fri, 04 Jul 2008, "Greg O" wrote:
"azotic" wrote...

See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.

http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html

Smoking kills the sense of smell. A non-smoker easily identifies
the garlicky aroma of acetylene, or the distinct musk of methyl
mercaptan in leaking natural gas or propane, and can get out before
it's too late.

Some smokers can get Skunk sprayed and think nothing of it.

A couple times I have jumped into my work van in the morning, shoved the key
in the ignition, and said to myself, "wait a second, what is that odor?
Acetylene!" Jump out, leave the doors open for a few minutes! I will
probably be on one of those videos some day!
Greg

If you keep carrying and storing Acetylene bottles inside an
enclosed van on a regular basis, you COULD BE. Because the dome light
switch makes a pretty good sized little spark every time you open the
door, long before your nose could have a chance to warn you.

Take the bottles out at night and over the weekend, whenever you
don't need to carry them. Build a sealed box to store the cylinders
in, and/or install motorhome style roof vents and operable side/rear
windows (the tip-out type) so any vapors can't build up.

And remember that acetylene bottles have fusible plugs that will
dump the entire contents if they overheat, including the acetone
filler. Oxygen cylinders have rupture disks. You do NOT park in the
sun with gas bottles inside and no ventilation.

GTE had special heavy sheetmetal steel boxes built that vented to
the underside of the van and sealed to the inside, and that was only
for carrying one or two MC bottles. Anything bigger, and it went in
an open truck bed only.

And we still didn't carry it around unless we thought we would need
it that day.

-- Bruce --

Al Patrick writes:

I once knew a long term smoker to be on oxygen for his breathing
problems. He was sitting in a smoke-free clinic to see the doctor
about his problem. He told me, "I'm going outside and have a
cigarette - if it kills me." Well, it didn't kill him right then but
he's dead now.

My mom didn't quit smoking until she was too weak from emphysema to
get out of bed, and nobody would bring her a cigaret.

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:12:11 -0700, "azotic"
wrote:

See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.


http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html


Best Regards
Tom.
===================
funny true story

I lived in a small town in Connecticut for several years, and the
barbershop where I got my hair cut was run by an individual that
ran a sports book on the side [or possibly the barbershop with
the sideline...]. He was very good about taking bets but was
sometimes a little slow about paying, and was known to have
memory problems about how much was bet, the odds, or even the
wager when the event went against him [although his memory seemed
fine when he won].

One day he closed the shop at 5:00 on the eve of a long weekend,
went out and got in his car parked behind the shop, and when he
started it and tapped the brakes pulling out, the car blew up.
The damage was extensive, with windows broken on the second and
third stories of buildings in the alley, and the entire back half
of the car was blown off. He was not seriously hurt, although
singed by and deaf from the blast, although it took some time to
remove him from the vehicle as he had the back seat packed with
camping/fishing gear and this had been blown forward jamming him
against the steering wheel.

He immediately paid off all his outstanding "business" debts [in
some cases with interest], and it was only later the BATF
investigators determined that the explosion was due to a propane
leak on his camp stove that he had in the trunk, and when he
tapped the brakes it made a spark at the brake light.

On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:40:40 -0400, Al Patrick wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:01:40 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ivan
Vegvary" quickly quoth:

"azotic" wrote in message
...
See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.


http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html


Best Regards
Tom.


It seems like the welding tanks DID NOT explode. The VAN exploded because
it was full of combustible gases.

It was probably a set of tanks which hadn't been shut off and the
hoses purged. That little bit of acetylene blew the shell clear off
the van. Unreal! Leave it to a Floridian NOT to notice that the
vehicle stunk of flammable gas before lighting up. There's an Obama
voter for ya. (Hi, Ed.)

*It also points out the power of a cigarette addiction*

I once knew a long term smoker to be on oxygen for his breathing problems. He was sitting
in a smoke-free clinic to see the doctor about his problem. He told me, "I'm going
outside and have a cigarette - if it kills me." Well, it didn't kill him right then but
he's dead now.

Don't worry about going to see Marlboro Country, just keep smoking your cigarettes and
you'll get to "Marlboro County" sooner than you'd like - SIX FEET UNDER.

My father died at the ripe old age of about 61. I *think* about 60 camels a day "helped"
him die. Yep, he was a chain smoker - light the next one with the current one.


My non smoking, triathalon, raquetball champ, fruit munching uncle who
lead an exemplarly healthy lifestyle fell over dead at the age of 53,
while his 6 hard drinking, chain smoking siblings all lived to be in
their 80s.


shrug...


Gunner


"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the
name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program
until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it
happened." -- Norman Thomas, American socialist

F. George McDuffee wrote:

funny true story

I lived in a small town in Connecticut for several years, and the
barbershop where I got my hair cut was run by an individual that
ran a sports book on the side [or possibly the barbershop with
the sideline...]. He was very good about taking bets but was
sometimes a little slow about paying, and was known to have
memory problems about how much was bet, the odds, or even the
wager when the event went against him [although his memory seemed
fine when he won].

One day he closed the shop at 5:00 on the eve of a long weekend,
went out and got in his car parked behind the shop, and when he
started it and tapped the brakes pulling out, the car blew up.
The damage was extensive, with windows broken on the second and
third stories of buildings in the alley, and the entire back half
of the car was blown off. He was not seriously hurt, although
singed by and deaf from the blast, although it took some time to
remove him from the vehicle as he had the back seat packed with
camping/fishing gear and this had been blown forward jamming him
against the steering wheel.

He immediately paid off all his outstanding "business" debts [in
some cases with interest], and it was only later the BATF
investigators determined that the explosion was due to a propane
leak on his camp stove that he had in the trunk, and when he
tapped the brakes it made a spark at the brake light.


------

I worked on a job site where someone started cutting the gang box locks with a cutting
torch. You couldn't get to the locks with a bolt cutter.

Someone else decided a way to stop it was to "surprise" them. A slightly leaky acetylene
tank was left in one and when the torch got close enough it really got their attention.
Of course, it was an "accident" that the the leaky tank was left in there, but they found
out who was cutting open the boxes at night. We had all kinds of policies and procedures
come down from the safety department -- but we had no more gang boxes cut open! :-)

I missed the Staff meeting, but the Memos showed that Gunner Asch
wrote on Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:39:23 -0700
in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:40:40 -0400, Al Patrick wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:01:40 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ivan
Vegvary" quickly quoth:

"azotic" wrote in message
...
See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.


http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html


Best Regards
Tom.


It seems like the welding tanks DID NOT explode. The VAN exploded because
it was full of combustible gases.

It was probably a set of tanks which hadn't been shut off and the
hoses purged. That little bit of acetylene blew the shell clear off
the van. Unreal! Leave it to a Floridian NOT to notice that the
vehicle stunk of flammable gas before lighting up. There's an Obama
voter for ya. (Hi, Ed.)

*It also points out the power of a cigarette addiction*

I once knew a long term smoker to be on oxygen for his breathing problems. He was sitting
in a smoke-free clinic to see the doctor about his problem. He told me, "I'm going
outside and have a cigarette - if it kills me." Well, it didn't kill him right then but
he's dead now.

Don't worry about going to see Marlboro Country, just keep smoking your cigarettes and
you'll get to "Marlboro County" sooner than you'd like - SIX FEET UNDER.

My father died at the ripe old age of about 61. I *think* about 60 camels a day "helped"
him die. Yep, he was a chain smoker - light the next one with the current one.


My non smoking, triathalon, raquetball champ, fruit munching uncle who
lead an exemplarly healthy lifestyle fell over dead at the age of 53,
while his 6 hard drinking, chain smoking siblings all lived to be in
their 80s.

Yeesh, their breath probably scared off the Angel of Death. Or
he thought they were already dead. :-)


tschus


The 2000 Year Old Man attributed his longevity to eating a pound of
garlic right before bed. In the night, the Angle of Death would wake
him, and he'd say "Whoooo hiiis hiiit?" and the fumes would drive him
away.
--
pyotr filipivich
"I had just been through hell and must have looked like death warmed
over walking into the saloon, because when I asked the bartender
whether they served zombies he said, ‘Sure, what'll you have?'"
from I Hear America Swinging by Peter DeVries

"azotic" wrote in message
...
See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.


http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html


Best Regards
Tom.

Danged ad is longer than the video. And just how was this cameraman focused
on that particular piece of the planet at that particular moment?

Steve

"Al Patrick" wrote

*It also points out the power of a cigarette addiction*

I once knew a long term smoker to be on oxygen for his breathing problems.
He was sitting in a smoke-free clinic to see the doctor about his problem.
He told me, "I'm going outside and have a cigarette - if it kills me."
Well, it didn't kill him right then but he's dead now.

Don't worry about going to see Marlboro Country, just keep smoking your
cigarettes and you'll get to "Marlboro County" sooner than you'd like -
SIX FEET UNDER.

My father died at the ripe old age of about 61. I *think* about 60 camels
a day "helped" him die. Yep, he was a chain smoker - light the next one
with the current one.

A few years back in Las Vegas, a resident of a trailer park was sitting
outside having a smoke and using his oxygen tank at the same time. He had
emphysema. EMTs and FD rolled. Camera crew arrived and was filming. A kid
about eight years old came into the scene holding the remnants of an
aluminum O2 bottle and asked if this was something important.

A great lady I knew finally died from emphysema. She had security
clearance, and used to be one of the gals that shuffled blueprints across
the huge Boeing construction hangers powered by roller-skates. She had an
interesting life, but it was hard to watch her die.

Steve

SteveB wrote:

My father died at the ripe old age of about 61. I *think* about 60 camels
a day "helped" him die. Yep, he was a chain smoker - light the next one
with the current one.


A few years back in Las Vegas, a resident of a trailer park was sitting
outside having a smoke and using his oxygen tank at the same time. He had
emphysema. EMTs and FD rolled. Camera crew arrived and was filming. A kid
about eight years old came into the scene holding the remnants of an
aluminum O2 bottle and asked if this was something important.

A great lady I knew finally died from emphysema. She had security
clearance, and used to be one of the gals that shuffled blueprints across
the huge Boeing construction hangers powered by roller-skates. She had an
interesting life, but it was hard to watch her die.

Steve



I was doing that not long ago.
Three packs a day.
Finally decided I'd rather quit than die and just quit.
THEN the price of cigarettes went sky high!
In the end, there isn't a day goes by that I don't think I want one.

But I'm glad I don't _have_ to smoke any more.

REAL glad.


Richard

This "story" is lacking some details, me thinks.

(EMTs and) FD rolled. To put out the cigarette?

Camera crew arrived and was filming. Someone smoking is newsworthy, or they
were making a documentary?
They probably weren't filming, maybe taping or transmitting to the studio.

Someone shot the oxygen bottle? From a grassy knoll?

A kid about eight years old came into the scene.. He wasn't in school? Oh,
it happened in a trailer park, that explains everything.

I still have to wonder how much money the kid got for the scrap of aluminum.
Maybe enough for a 6-pack so he could get his cousin Irma drunk and knock
her up.

We never will hear the full story because what happens in Vegas, stays in
Vegas.

Irma later becomes a stripper, I bet.

WB
..........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html


"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...


A few years back in Las Vegas, a resident of a trailer park was sitting
outside having a smoke and using his oxygen tank at the same time. He had
emphysema. EMTs and FD rolled. Camera crew arrived and was filming. A
kid about eight years old came into the scene holding the remnants of an
aluminum O2 bottle and asked if this was something important.

A great lady I knew finally died from emphysema. She had security
clearance, and used to be one of the gals that shuffled blueprints across
the huge Boeing construction hangers powered by roller-skates. She had an
interesting life, but it was hard to watch her die.

Steve

On Jul 4, 10:12 am, "azotic" wrote:
See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.

http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html

Best Regards
Tom.

Yep. It happens - happened to a mate of mine at work, he had filled
his propane bottle at the bulk tanks in the yard, hadn't bothered to
leak test them in the barrel of water next to them for this purpose.
Lit a smoke on the way home, six months in hospital with 3rd degree
burns. Years later, he still looked a mess. Good thing he was already
married, he would have had no chance at all the way he looked after
the burns...

So. we make comments here about "what an idiot" etc etc. Dont think he
planned to blow himself up. Does anyone?

And the manuals say "theres no such thing as an accident" - and they
are right, every accident is caused by someones stuffing up and not
doing something properly. Affects the payout from the insurance co if
they can show your partly responsible.....

But, **** happens.

How many old tradesmen (not effete hobbyists) do you know who are not
carrying some injury from a long ago (or recent) accident? - I would
warrant its most of them. Scars,(at least), missing fingers, poorly
set broken limbs, hearing loss, deteriorating eyesight, wrecked backs
- **** yes, its Good To Be A Blue Collar Worker.

And on a worksite, you soon learn who the idiots are, and keep clear
of them, or check their work, so you don't share their "accident"

And the Kiddies (ie, the apprentices) I go to school with have to be
constantly harassed about safety near big, industrial machines that
can quite happy take an arm off, more easily than they can hog a big
lump of steel. Their young, their immortal - and it hasn't happened to
them yet, so it wont happen. Except for one of them - he tried to stop
a runnaway forklift with his foot - hes still getting physiotherapy 9
months later, has an interesting way of walking, too.

Regards,

Andrew VK3BFA.

"Wild_Bill" wrote in message
...
This "story" is lacking some details, me thinks.

(EMTs and) FD rolled. To put out the cigarette?

Camera crew arrived and was filming. Someone smoking is newsworthy, or
they were making a documentary?
They probably weren't filming, maybe taping or transmitting to the studio.

Someone shot the oxygen bottle? From a grassy knoll?

A kid about eight years old came into the scene.. He wasn't in school?
Oh, it happened in a trailer park, that explains everything.

I still have to wonder how much money the kid got for the scrap of
aluminum. Maybe enough for a 6-pack so he could get his cousin Irma drunk
and knock her up.

We never will hear the full story because what happens in Vegas, stays in
Vegas.

Irma later becomes a stripper, I bet.

WB
.........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html


"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...


A few years back in Las Vegas, a resident of a trailer park was sitting
outside having a smoke and using his oxygen tank at the same time. He
had emphysema. EMTs and FD rolled. Camera crew arrived and was filming.
A kid about eight years old came into the scene holding the remnants of
an aluminum O2 bottle and asked if this was something important.

A great lady I knew finally died from emphysema. She had security
clearance, and used to be one of the gals that shuffled blueprints across
the huge Boeing construction hangers powered by roller-skates. She had
an interesting life, but it was hard to watch her die.

Steve

Sorry, I left out the line, "there was an explosion" right after the
sentence, "He had emphysema." I've had a rough last couple of days. I made
a mistake. I apologize and it will definitely happen again.

I'm sorry. Truly sorry. You have no idea how badly this makes me feel, and
how elated I am for you to point out my weaknesses and errors. You do not
know the level at which this affects me, especially coming from you, All
Knowing, Never Erring Great One.

I'll try to do better, and I suggest you get a life.

This communication is ended.

Steve

The sick man exploded, and burst the oxygen bottle?

OK, then.. this is the first time I've ever heard of such a thing.

Learn something knew every day, they say.

I can empathize with a couple of rough days, as I was having them for a
couple of decades.

It's more likely that the sick fella mistakenly had his acetylene bottle
with him.

WB
..........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html



"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...

"Wild_Bill" wrote in message
...
This "story" is lacking some details, me thinks.

snippages

"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
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A few years back in Las Vegas, a resident of a trailer park was sitting
outside having a smoke and using his oxygen tank at the same time. He
had emphysema. EMTs and FD rolled. Camera crew arrived and was
filming. A kid about eight years old came into the scene holding the
remnants of an aluminum O2 bottle and asked if this was something
important.

Steve

Sorry, I left out the line, "there was an explosion" right after the
sentence, "He had emphysema." I've had a rough last couple of days. I
made a mistake. I apologize and it will definitely happen again.

I'm sorry. Truly sorry. You have no idea how badly this makes me feel,
and how elated I am for you to point out my weaknesses and errors. You do
not know the level at which this affects me, especially coming from you,
All Knowing, Never Erring Great One.

I'll try to do better, and I suggest you get a life.

This communication is ended.

Steve

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:44:25 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas
wrote:


"azotic" wrote in message
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See the video.

According to police, the van was filled with gas tanks and welding
equipment.
The man reportedly lit a cigarette, igniting gas fumes in the vehicle and
setting off the explosion.


http://www.local10.com/news/16780374/detail.html


Best Regards
Tom.

Danged ad is longer than the video. And just how was this cameraman focused
on that particular piece of the planet at that particular moment?

They explained in the news footage, the BOOM! was caught by a
security camera for an ATM, fixed position and focus - he just
happened to blow up the van in the right spot at the right time.

-- Bruce --

"Bruce L. Bergman" wrote
They explained in the news footage, the BOOM! was caught by a
security camera for an ATM, fixed position and focus - he just
happened to blow up the van in the right spot at the right time.

-- Bruce --

Sorry, that wasn't in my video, or the cat has unplugged the wire. Again.
Figgered it was some sort of surveillance, but of a lane of traffic was a
little odd. Most good pictures are accidents. (groan ..... did I say
that?)

Steve

On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:53:50 -0500, cavelamb himself
wrote:

SteveB wrote:

My father died at the ripe old age of about 61. I *think* about 60 camels
a day "helped" him die. Yep, he was a chain smoker - light the next one
with the current one.


A few years back in Las Vegas, a resident of a trailer park was sitting
outside having a smoke and using his oxygen tank at the same time. He had
emphysema. EMTs and FD rolled. Camera crew arrived and was filming. A kid
about eight years old came into the scene holding the remnants of an
aluminum O2 bottle and asked if this was something important.

A great lady I knew finally died from emphysema. She had security
clearance, and used to be one of the gals that shuffled blueprints across
the huge Boeing construction hangers powered by roller-skates. She had an
interesting life, but it was hard to watch her die.

Steve



I was doing that not long ago.
Three packs a day.
Finally decided I'd rather quit than die and just quit.
THEN the price of cigarettes went sky high!
In the end, there isn't a day goes by that I don't think I want one.


It has faded somewhat after fifteen years.

But I'm glad I don't _have_ to smoke any more.

REAL glad.


Richard



Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

Wild_Bill wrote:

The sick man exploded, and burst the oxygen bottle?

OK, then.. this is the first time I've ever heard of such a thing.

Learn something knew every day, they say.

I can empathize with a couple of rough days, as I was having them for a
couple of decades.

It's more likely that the sick fella mistakenly had his acetylene bottle
with him.

WB
.........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html



"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
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"Wild_Bill" wrote in message
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This "story" is lacking some details, me thinks.

snippages

"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
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A few years back in Las Vegas, a resident of a trailer park was sitting
outside having a smoke and using his oxygen tank at the same time. He
had emphysema. EMTs and FD rolled. Camera crew arrived and was
filming. A kid about eight years old came into the scene holding the
remnants of an aluminum O2 bottle and asked if this was something
important.

Steve

Sorry, I left out the line, "there was an explosion" right after the
sentence, "He had emphysema." I've had a rough last couple of days. I
made a mistake. I apologize and it will definitely happen again.

I'm sorry. Truly sorry. You have no idea how badly this makes me feel,
and how elated I am for you to point out my weaknesses and errors. You
do not know the level at which this affects me, especially coming from
you, All Knowing, Never Erring Great One.

I'll try to do better, and I suggest you get a life.

This communication is ended.

Steve


Great. **** with the guy on narcotics.
--
John L. Weatherly

please remove XXXs to reply via email

I dunno why you chimed in John (without mentioning the obvious), but tell
me.. what's the bad part of being on narcotics (for a short period of time)?

WB
..........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html


"John L. Weatherly" wrote in message
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Wild_Bill wrote:

The sick man exploded, and burst the oxygen bottle?

OK, then.. this is the first time I've ever heard of such a thing.

Learn something knew every day, they say.

I can empathize with a couple of rough days, as I was having them for a
couple of decades.

It's more likely that the sick fella mistakenly had his acetylene bottle
with him.

WB
.........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html



"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
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"Wild_Bill" wrote in message
...
This "story" is lacking some details, me thinks.

snippages

"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...


A few years back in Las Vegas, a resident of a trailer park was
sitting
outside having a smoke and using his oxygen tank at the same time. He
had emphysema. EMTs and FD rolled. Camera crew arrived and was
filming. A kid about eight years old came into the scene holding the
remnants of an aluminum O2 bottle and asked if this was something
important.

Steve

Sorry, I left out the line, "there was an explosion" right after the
sentence, "He had emphysema." I've had a rough last couple of days. I
made a mistake. I apologize and it will definitely happen again.

I'm sorry. Truly sorry. You have no idea how badly this makes me feel,
and how elated I am for you to point out my weaknesses and errors. You
do not know the level at which this affects me, especially coming from
you, All Knowing, Never Erring Great One.

I'll try to do better, and I suggest you get a life.

This communication is ended.

Steve


Great. **** with the guy on narcotics.
--
John L. Weatherly

please remove XXXs to reply via email

Wild_Bill wrote:

I dunno why you chimed in John (without mentioning the obvious), but tell
me.. what's the bad part of being on narcotics (for a short period of
time)?

WB

I forget.
--
John L. Weatherly

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I reckon the bad part to be; not having just a couple more.

But that's the way those things are. At least they don't cause people to
explode.

WB
..........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html


"John L. Weatherly" wrote in message
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Wild_Bill wrote:

I dunno why you chimed in John (without mentioning the obvious), but tell
me.. what's the bad part of being on narcotics (for a short period of
time)?

WB

I forget.
--
John L. Weatherly

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"John L. Weatherly" wrote in message
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Wild_Bill wrote:

I dunno why you chimed in John (without mentioning the obvious), but tell
me.. what's the bad part of being on narcotics (for a short period of
time)?

WB

I forget.
--
John L. Weatherly

I'm sorry, Wild Bill. I didn't realize you were drug impaired. Perhaps I
was too harsh on you. I spent from 4PM Friday the 4th to noon Sunday
getting IV morphine every 2 to 4 hours. Smashed a vertebra. But now I'm on
lighter stuff, and soon, I'll put that away from Tylenol.

Remember, Bill. Drugs, like stupidity are a choice you can either stay with
or get away from.

HTH.

Steve

PS:

Well, Steve B, here's a great opportunity to display your hissy-fit attitude
concerning perfection, maybe because you might think I give a FRA about your
writing style (couldn't be further from accurate), or your personal
problems.

I suggested criticizm about you posting the OT bull**** current-event post
of HC wanting money from BO, in this newsgroup a while ago (just because
those topics don't belong here), but you probably knew that.

Maybe your drugs are inducing paranoia.. or maybe it's got nothing to do
with the drugs.

I was prodding you about the explosion.

"a resident of a trailer park was sitting outside having a smoke and using
his oxygen tank *at the same time*"
I'm wondering if you believe that this should be self-explanatory. It seems
that you might.

Now you seem to be enjoying suggesting I am a drug user, and stupid, which
doesn't mean squat to me.. and I can't even guess why it would matter to
anyone else.
But if that's what makes you feel better about yourself, then that's what
you'll do, I guess.

Hey, I'll even give ya a free one.. I'm one of those stinkin' top-posters,
out to ruin usenet for all of the proper bottom-posters. Another one in my
FRA category.

Too bad you don't understand the "stupidity is a choice" concept.

It seems that you keep injuring yourself seriously, repeatedly. That might
be a different Steve.
Your medical report: FRA, again. I didn't know that I needed to check to see
if you had a doctor's excuse.

Excuses or not, I'll point out that oxygen is not explosive, to anyone,
regardless of their (welding) background, mental health status, IQ, race,
religion etc.

You may just be the perfect person to explain stupidity to the "rest of us".

PS:
I gotta check the calendar. Must be a comprehension holiday, huh
(thanks for that one Andy, it's great!)


WB
..........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html


"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
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I'm sorry, Wild Bill. I didn't realize you were drug impaired. Perhaps I
was too harsh on you. I spent from 4PM Friday the 4th to noon Sunday
getting IV morphine every 2 to 4 hours. Smashed a vertebra. But now I'm
on lighter stuff, and soon, I'll put that away from Tylenol.

Remember, Bill. Drugs, like stupidity are a choice you can either stay
with or get away from.

HTH.

Steve

PS: