Can anyone point me to a newsreader that is capable of filtering the
chinese spam? Preferably Linux.

On 2008-04-25, Jim wrote:
Can anyone point me to a newsreader that is capable of filtering the
chinese spam? Preferably Linux.

google: slrn linux killfile googlegroups

I use slrn and am very satisfied.
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Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention
to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating
from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by
more readers you will need to find a different means of
posting on Usenet.
http://improve-usenet.org/

Ignoramus14435 wrote:

On 2008-04-25, Jim wrote:
Can anyone point me to a newsreader that is capable of filtering the
chinese spam? Preferably Linux.

google: slrn linux killfile googlegroups

I use slrn and am very satisfied.


I keep thinking that if we use the message id field, and as a community,
rated messages as spam and ot and had newsreaders that would check a
database to score each message before downloading we could kill all this
disruption. I'm calling this idea, community scoring in case some one
implements it. This way everyone could have their two cents as a moderator.

Wes
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"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

In article , wrote:
Ignoramus14435 wrote:

On 2008-04-25, Jim wrote:
Can anyone point me to a newsreader that is capable of filtering the
chinese spam? Preferably Linux.

google: slrn linux killfile googlegroups

I use slrn and am very satisfied.


I keep thinking that if we use the message id field, and as a community,
rated messages as spam and ot and had newsreaders that would check a
database to score each message before downloading we could kill all this
disruption. I'm calling this idea, community scoring in case some one
implements it. This way everyone could have their two cents as a moderator.

Way too complicated. Just killfile all traffic coming from GoogleGroups, and
be done with it. If that's too heavy-handed, then use filter rules to build a
whitelist of Google Gropers whose posts you do want to see, and killfile
everything else.

If you're using NewsProxy (Nfilter) with your newsreader, such a setup would
look like this:

* flag: from:sleepy|grumpy|dopey|sneezy|happy|bashful|doc
* drop: message-ID:googlegroups

Any post from any one of the seven posters named will come through. Anything
*else* from Google Groups won't.

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Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)

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Wow, just removed everything that came from " and took all the
trash to the curb!

Thanks!!!




Way too complicated. Just killfile all traffic coming from GoogleGroups,
and
be done with it. If that's too heavy-handed, then use filter rules to
build a
whitelist of Google Gropers whose posts you do want to see, and killfile
everything else.

In article , "Terry Keeley" tkee(no wrote:
Wow, just removed everything that came from " and took all the
trash to the curb!

You missed the point.

Newsgroups are NOT email, and what email address a person chooses to put on
his posts is *completely*unrelated* to what newsserver he's posting through.

Nearly all Usenet spam originates on Google Groups newsserver(s). Much of this
spam does *not* show an email address @gmail.com in the from header

Many people use gmail.com email addresses, but post to Usenet through
newsservers *other* than Google Groups.

Thus, killfiling posts with an email address @gmail.com will result in:
a) failing to killfile a lot of stuff that is spam, and
b) killfiling a lot of stuff that is not spam.

What you want to do is killfile any post with "googlegroups" in the message-id
header. Never mind the from header -- anybody can put anything in that. It's
not a reliable means of identifying spam posts.


Thanks!!!




Way too complicated. Just killfile all traffic coming from GoogleGroups,
and
be done with it. If that's too heavy-handed, then use filter rules to
build a
whitelist of Google Gropers whose posts you do want to see, and killfile
everything else.




--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)

Join the UseNet Improvement Project: killfile Google Groups.
http://www.improve-usenet.org

Get a copy of my NEW AND IMPROVED TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter
by sending email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com
You must use your REAL email address to get a response.

Download Nfilter at http://www.milmac.com/np-120.exe

In article , wrote:
In , on Sat, 26 Apr 2008
16:57:23 GMT, Doug Miller, wrote:

Thus, killfiling posts with an email address @gmail.com will result in:
a) failing to killfile a lot of stuff that is spam, and
b) killfiling a lot of stuff that is not spam.

What you want to do is killfile any post with "googlegroups" in the
message-id
header. Never mind the from header -- anybody can put anything in that. It's
not a reliable means of identifying spam posts.

Yabut... anyone can put googlegroups into his
Message-ID too. Check this post.

So what??

The point is to filter out spam. If the message-ID says GoogleGroups, it's
probably spam.

Course, I have no idea why anyone would want to do
that other than to demonstrate it.

Hey, if you want to make it look like your posts are coming through Usenet's
most notorious spam portal -- and get all your traffic killfiltered -- that's
up to you. Be my guest.

NNTP-Posting-Host: is inserted by google, so that
gets you a lot finer-grained filter.

Not only is it no finer-grained, it's actually considerably less useful.

is *also* inserted by Google, which is more
than sufficient reason to decide that a post should be killfiltered: any post
that actually does come from GoogleGroups should be assumed to be spam unless
proven otherwise, and since there is no legitimate reason to make a post
*appear* to have come from GoogleGroups when it did not, those posts should be
killfiltered as well.

However, some news servers don't provide the NNTP-Posting-Host: header to
clients, which makes that completely useless for filtering, and brings you
back to looking for "googlegroups" in the Message-ID: header as being the only
reliable way of killfiltering Google-originated spam.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)

Join the UseNet Improvement Project: killfile Google Groups.
http://www.improve-usenet.org

Get a copy of my NEW AND IMPROVED TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter
by sending email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com
You must use your REAL email address to get a response.

Download Nfilter at http://www.milmac.com/np-120.exe

(Doug Miller) wrote:

Way too complicated. Just killfile all traffic coming from GoogleGroups, and
be done with it. If that's too heavy-handed, then use filter rules to build a
whitelist of Google Gropers whose posts you do want to see, and killfile
everything else.

If you're using NewsProxy (Nfilter) with your newsreader, such a setup would
look like this:

* flag: from:sleepy|grumpy|dopey|sneezy|happy|bashful|doc
* drop: message-ID:googlegroups

Any post from any one of the seven posters named will come through. Anything
*else* from Google Groups won't.

That might be a good solution. I hope my leafnode nntp server is sitting on
my lan ip or I can change it to that interface or I won't be able to use my
localhost to run nfilter. Running the two statistics programs has
introduced a bit of complexity to my configuration.

I'll play with it soon. I spent the last two days getting pop3s working
since www.cygwin.com changed the behaviour of imap to using ssl for pop3 and
uw-imap3d started looking in the wrong place for my mail files. Good thing
I like playing with computers.

After configuring pop3s on 995 $ ln -s /var/mail /var/spool/mail got
uw-imap3d looking in the right place.

You can have a lot of fun on Winblows with Cygwin.


Wes

(Doug Miller) wrote:

If you're using NewsProxy (Nfilter) with your newsreader, such a setup would
look like this:

* flag: from:sleepy|grumpy|dopey|sneezy|happy|bashful|doc
* drop: message-ID:googlegroups

Any post from any one of the seven posters named will come through. Anything
*else* from Google Groups won't.

Here is my filter I like atm.

* flag:
* drop Message-ID:*googlegroups*
# More than three groups, kill it
* drop Xref:*:*:*:*
#

Wes