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Old Brace id?
Anyone know who might have made this Brace and when? I can find no markings,
and guess about 100 years old. The jaws threaded rods use a reverse thread on one side for easy clamping, pre-rust. I have seen a "Brace wrench" before, but these jaws are grooved on a taper to accept a standard Bit. I am tempted to bead blast it, but don't know if that would ruin any value it may have to a collector. http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...e/100_0291.jpg http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...e/100_0292.jpg |
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Old Brace id?
I am tempted to bead blast it, but don't know if that would ruin any value
it may have to a collector.http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...e/100_0292.jpg The brace has been on a long journey for a long time. I would take it apart, soak off the rust in vinegar and beadblast as necessary to make it look nice. Bob AZ |
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Old Brace id?
Stupendous Man wrote:
Anyone know who might have made this Brace and when? I can find no markings, and guess about 100 years old. The jaws threaded rods use a reverse thread on one side for easy clamping, pre-rust. I have seen a "Brace wrench" before, but these jaws are grooved on a taper to accept a standard Bit. I am tempted to bead blast it, but don't know if that would ruin any value it may have to a collector. http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...e/100_0291.jpg http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...e/100_0292.jpg Could be older than you think. Known by various names but bit brace wrench is fairly generic. Check out US patent 275341 @ http://tinyurl.com/6crye4 Tom |
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Old Brace id?
The brace has been on a long journey for a long time. I would take it
apart, soak off the rust in vinegar and beadblast as necessary to make it look nice. Bob AZ Maybe so. Vinegar is great for stuff like this, but probably hard on the wood. BTW, Vinegar or any other acid process is a bad idea for anything structural, like automobile suspension. "Hydrogen Embrittlement" can allow the remaining steel to snap. |
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Old Brace id?
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:16:45 -0700, "Stupendous Man"
wrote: Anyone know who might have made this Brace and when? I can find no markings, and guess about 100 years old. The jaws threaded rods use a reverse thread on one side for easy clamping, pre-rust. I have seen a "Brace wrench" before, but these jaws are grooved on a taper to accept a standard Bit. I am tempted to bead blast it, but don't know if that would ruin any value it may have to a collector. http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...e/100_0291.jpg http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...e/100_0292.jpg I have certainly seen braces with standard screw chucks that were more then 100 years old so I'd say your's is either older then that or designed for some special purpose. I'll give you one piece of advise though. "Get that greasy old piece of junk off that clean table cloth!" :-( * Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct email address for reply) |
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Old Brace id?
On Apr 15, 8:29*am, Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:16:45 -0700, "Stupendous Man" wrote: Anyone know who might have made this Brace and when? I can find no markings, and guess about 100 years old. The jaws threaded rods use a reverse thread on one side for easy clamping, pre-rust. *I have seen a "Brace wrench" before, but these jaws are grooved on a taper to accept a standard Bit. I am tempted to bead blast it, but don't know if that would ruin any value it may have to a collector. http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...e/100_0291.jpg http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...e/100_0292.jpg I have certainly seen braces with standard screw chucks that were more then 100 years old so I'd say your's is either older then that or designed for some special purpose. I'll give you one piece of advise though. "Get that greasy old piece of junk off that clean table cloth!" :-( * Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct email address for reply) I've GOT braces that are more than 100 years old with screw chucks. Before screw chucks, they used a tapered square hole in the brace to fit the bit end. I've never seen one like that. My vote is a one-off by a village blacksmith, a low-production patented item or a specialty tool. Interesting item. Clean it carefully and see if there are any patent or makers marks on it. Time for the old oil and fine steel wool treatment. Stan |
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Old Brace id?
I found an 1878 patent date after bead blasting.
I don't collect woodworking tools, so its now on Ebay. Check out the detail pic of the jaws. pretty neat. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180234049710 |
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Old Brace id?
the probability is that the bead blasting cost you 80% of its value, but the
final results on the auction will reveal if that is true. "Stupendous Man" wrote in message ... I found an 1878 patent date after bead blasting. I don't collect woodworking tools, so its now on Ebay. Check out the detail pic of the jaws. pretty neat. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180234049710 ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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Old Brace id?
the probability is that the bead blasting cost you 80% of its value, but
the final results on the auction will reveal if that is true. That's why I asked that question on a few forums recieving no real answers |
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Old Brace id?
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:27:41 -0700, "Stupendous Man"
wrote: I found an 1878 patent date after bead blasting. I don't collect woodworking tools, so its now on Ebay. Check out the detail pic of the jaws. pretty neat. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180234049710 Here is one of the patents concerning this item (for May 18, 1880; patent number 227686): http://www.google.com/patents?vid=227686 and I think this is the earlier patent (for Dec 10, 1878; patent number 210684): http://www.google.com/patents?vid=210684 Let me know if this bit of info makes your item have a greater value -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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Old Brace id?
"Stupendous Man" wrote:
the probability is that the bead blasting cost you 80% of its value, but the final results on the auction will reveal if that is true. That's why I asked that question on a few forums recieving no real answers I would have agreed with Bill until after the OP blasted it and discovered some dates that he hadn't seen before. Since the auction just ended & it went for $333.00, I think the OP probably made some money by blasting it. Nice sale. Jim |
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