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On Mar 22, 10:35*am, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:41:29 -0600, Don Foreman wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:42:00 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Did you hear that there is exactly ONE inspector for ALL toys for the ENTIRE US at the CSPC (Consumer Products Safety Commission)? *Just ONE overburdened guy who has to check out EVERY kind of toy sold in the whole US? *Totally INCREDIBLE! No WONDER we can't catch this stuff before it is on the store shelves. Most children have at least one parent that is both more capable and more motivated than the government to supervise them, nurture them and keep objects and substances of unknown provenance *out of their mouths. * Really? *How does that work with infant toys that are DESIGNED to be mouth toys? *You are familiar with the whole development process, right? Thing is, we have laws about lead and lead paint in toys. *The companies who import them know this. *The companies in China and other places know this. *The Chinese manufacturers choose to put lead paint onto products because it's cheaper, and the importers don't bother to do anything like test for it. *Even if you feel that lead paint on kids toys is no big deal for some reason, that doesn't chnage the fact that it's an illegal import. *Since we can't realistically do anything to the manufacturer in communist china who is trying to poison our kids, (Or, if you prefer, who is willingly violating import laws for the market they're selling to), the obvious party to fix the problem is the importer. *Mattel, Disney, I'm looking at you here. *Your name is on it, you're a USA'n entity, you're liable for preventing the problem. *And when they fail to prevent the problem by inspecting their suppliers and the product, then there should be a REAL fine for it. *No trivial $50K bull****, make it a million bucks a shot or something. *Use that to fund the CPSC. Thus far it is still legal to take a daughter or granddaughter fishing for brightly-colored feisty *sunfish, *lead sinkers and all. Good parents don't let the kids chew the sinkers. * * * We KNOW those are lead. *When you by, oh, I don't know, let's say this:http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml08/08050.html- to put in direct contact with food, because that's what it's made for, do you really think the burdon of testing for lead should be on the end-user? And no, that's not an isolated example. *Again, search for "lead paint" athttp://www.productrecallwatch.com/and see all the stuff illegally being sold with an easy to prevent problem. *And then note how much of it is made in China. You're blaming parents for this? *Really? It'll be awhile before the gummint has enough inspectors to visit every dock on each of MN's 10,000 lakes to put a stop to the excitement of little girls catching *sunnies off those docks. This isn't about lead where lead is expected to be, it's about products which aren't supposed to have it, but do. When they do come, I hope they are able to instruct on how to lash an approved pebble to an approved *bobbber with good knots using bio-degradable line, after the worm has been properly tested and approved for nutritional value in case the kid decides to eat it. Tell me, Don, do you expect people to use lead sinkers as jewelry? *Do you expect them to be used as teething toys for toddlers, or to put them on a birthday cake? *You're talking about two entirely different things. Lead where it's appropriate and expected has never been the problem or the target. *Responses such as yours show either ignorance or intentional distortion of the issue, and serve to do nothing but distract from the actual problem and solution. Considering Don's behavior, it sounds like he has been around lead too long. He should know better...and I am surprised by his response. The fact that he does not indicates a deeper problem. The consumer should not have to worry about product safety. The consumer is having to worry because Bush has gutted the consumer safety groups within the government...for personal gain. Do we send him the bills for the deaths and the life long care of mentally crippled children? TMT |
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